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  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,466
    Word on the grapevine up here is that there have been a few offers for Carey and it's possible he'll leave this summer
    Wouldn't hate it if he left. 
  • wolfgang
    wolfgang Posts: 761
    Bailey said:

    I’ve heard a Belgian and a Moroccan.
    I've heard they walked into a bar ...
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,556
    Sonny Carey is worth money in this league and I think has a high ceiling to where he can go. I'd rather we didn't sell him but accept our place in the food chain 

    Challenge as always is replacing what you lose and with Carey its a lot. Midfield goals, decent set piece delivery and a fairly long throw as well as a really good fuel tank and desire to be involved 
  • MartinCAFC
    MartinCAFC Posts: 3,398
    edited May 4
    Word on the grapevine up here is that there have been a few offers for Carey and it's possible he'll leave this summer
    This is kind of how the model works in The Championship, we may not like it but ultimately it's what Millwall have done well they've cashed in on players, scouted well, signed a good replacement, banked some cash and made a profit on the sale.

    Question is how much is enough for Carey to go for, maybe £5m? and who do we replace him with, is DKD the replacement if the link is true?
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 18,563
    I assume that DKD post is just a joke about us signing Coady rather than anything more
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,844
    Word on the grapevine up here is that there have been a few offers for Carey and it's possible he'll leave this summer
    This is kind of how the model works in The Championship, we may not like it but ultimately it's what Millwall have done well they've cashed in on players, scouted well, signed a good replacement, banked some cash and made a profit on the sale.

    Question is how much is enough for Carey to go for, maybe £5m? and who do we replace him with, is DKD the replacement if the link is true?
    Agree this will eventually be our model. Not sure it needs to be our model right now. I mean obviously every player has a price, but I'm not sure clubs would pay enough for Carey that we would be able to replace his contributions over the course of a season. He's also still quite young and English, which drives that cost up just a bit more. I would hope we hold on for now, and if he has another strong season (even if it doesn't include as many goals) look to cash in next summer. It's not just about selling, it's about selling at the right time (which, admittedly, is sometimes sooner than one might like).
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 9,783
    If say Norwich came calling for Carey with a chunky offer I don't think we'd be able to turn it down. Replacing him would be a bit tricky but we've got Knibbs who we haven't seen loads of. 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 66,223
    edited May 4
    Carey took 92 shots this season, the most at the club by some distance (TC second with 63). 

    So yes he scored a decent number of goals but our entire team was built around setting him up for strikes (sitting on the edge of the box at corners etc.).

    He’s a good player and offers something no one else at the club does, but I’d be disappointed if he was our #1 shot taker next season too.


    Outputs (goals scored) were high (top 9%) because the inputs (shots taken) were high (top 6%).


  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 33,764
    J BLOCK said:
    Word on the grapevine up here is that there have been a few offers for Carey and it's possible he'll leave this summer
    Wouldn't hate it if he left. 
    Bonkers.
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 2,065
    I think if Carey was to go we’d get a much better offer than what he would actually be worth. Output is always going to be valued more than what the player actually contributes for the rest of the game. 

    Clubs will see the 8 goals and think if he can get that for a poor side he can manage 10-15 in a good side that’s worth a few pounds  completely oblivious to how the whole system was set up to get Carey scoring from 2nd balls and box crashing 

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  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 9,101
    edited May 4
    Carter said:
    Sonny Carey is worth money in this league and I think has a high ceiling to where he can go. I'd rather we didn't sell him but accept our place in the food chain 

    Challenge as always is replacing what you lose and with Carey its a lot. Midfield goals, decent set piece delivery and a fairly long throw as well as a really good fuel tank and desire to be involved 
    I don't disagree, but we probably won't go up accepting that and it raises a couple of questions re' what would take us higher up the food chain?

    - Major - with a captital M - investment from the owners?

    - A change in management?

    - A vegan kitchen at SL?

    - All of the above?
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 18,563
    The sad truth is that with how little you're allowed to lose and our commercial performance we have to seriously consider offers for players like Carey. I'd love to see him stay but if the offer is a few million that is a tasy profit that can't be sniffed at
  • jose
    jose Posts: 1,278
    When Nathan Jones said he was going to be ruthless, what he meant was ruthless with the fans. He hasn't forgotten Bristol Rovers away or Crawley at home you know, so he has decided to put the fans in their place by giving Lloyd Jones a free transfer, and building the team next season around Gassan Ahadme.
    That'll learn us.
  • wolfgang
    wolfgang Posts: 761
    Carey is a player who looks better to outsiders than he really is. They see a midfielder scoring 8 goals, which seems a great return. I see a midfielder who does F-all in midfield, which, alongside the mediocrity of Coventry and Docherty, gave us probably the worst midfield in the division and nearly got us relegated. One skill midfielders most need is the ability to pass the ball. Our three heroes are all clueless at it.

    Someone will pay  3 million for him. We should be able to get a lot better for that money. 
  • PeaksAndValleys
    PeaksAndValleys Posts: 210
    Agree we'd have to take a good offer if it came in but hope we keep him. One of the few players other than TC who carries the ball forward, also one of the few not afraid to shoot (often to a fault, but also often resulting in a goal).

    Passing and vision clearly his weak points but NJ was clear they have been working on that and I thought there were some positive signs towards the end of the season. Earlier he would literally run head down into a defender, by the end he always got his head up and picked some decent passes - thought he had a few good ones in his appearance at Swansea. Think he can be very effective and is only getting better. 
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,615
    wolfgang said:
    Bailey said:

    I’ve heard a Belgian and a Moroccan.
    I've heard they walked into a bar ...
    Barman says 'is this some sort of joke'.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 48,166
    I think ruthless is basically what advice Curbs offers. Don't be too loyal. In terms of Carey, it is ridiculous that we can improve on him so easily and indeed not ridiculous that he can improve more. Ramsey will be keeping his head down as he will most likely have been tapped up by a club offering big wages, a bit like Small was. I think the key to our business is abroad. Collins an example of the type of player we can aquire.
  • Danny Addick
    Danny Addick Posts: 4,108
    wolfgang said:
    Carey is a player who looks better to outsiders than he really is. They see a midfielder scoring 8 goals, which seems a great return. I see a midfielder who does F-all in midfield, which, alongside the mediocrity of Coventry and Docherty, gave us probably the worst midfield in the division and nearly got us relegated. One skill midfielders most need is the ability to pass the ball. Our three heroes are all clueless at it.

    Someone will pay  3 million for him. We should be able to get a lot better for that money. 
    I would agree, he’s a midfield passenger that scores goals 

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  • Steven81
    Steven81 Posts: 1,354
    Woke up to our top scorer being digged out and sold for 3 million, granted he went off the boil but surely he's worth having around even if we progress as a team ? Rather than sell for peanuts in this division and have to replace with another gamble. How about upgrade on him and have him as back up or get a promising understudy and strengthen the real weak areas first the centre of midfield for example.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 86,193
    cafc_se7 said:
    I can’t believe some of these comments on Carey. You lot must live in dreamland if you think we easily get somebody else in who’s better. Particularly for “3 million”.
    Well to be fair we brought in an identical player from Blackpool last summer for free.

    £10m or no deal
  • ken_shabby
    ken_shabby Posts: 6,612
    jose said:
    When Nathan Jones said he was going to be ruthless, what he meant was ruthless with the fans. He hasn't forgotten Bristol Rovers away or Crawley at home you know, so he has decided to put the fans in their place by giving Lloyd Jones a free transfer, and building the team next season around Gassan Ahadme.
    That'll learn us.
    Honestly thought you were gonna say he was going to put the fans on the transfer market!
  • redbuttle
    redbuttle Posts: 2,086
    edited May 5
    Carey took 92 shots this season, the most at the club by some distance (TC second with 63). 

    So yes he scored a decent number of goals but our entire team was built around setting him up for strikes (sitting on the edge of the box at corners etc.).

    He’s a good player and offers something no one else at the club does, but I’d be disappointed if he was our #1 shot taker next season too.


    Outputs (goals scored) were high (top 9%) because the inputs (shots taken) were high (top 6%).


    Yes he had loads of shots but for a lot of them he should have passed to someone in a better position.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 33,764
    cafc_se7 said:
    I can’t believe some of these comments on Carey. You lot must live in dreamland if you think we easily get somebody else in who’s better. Particularly for “3 million”.
    As I said above, bonkers.
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 2,065
    wolfgang said:
    Carey is a player who looks better to outsiders than he really is. They see a midfielder scoring 8 goals, which seems a great return. I see a midfielder who does F-all in midfield, which, alongside the mediocrity of Coventry and Docherty, gave us probably the worst midfield in the division and nearly got us relegated. One skill midfielders most need is the ability to pass the ball. Our three heroes are all clueless at it.

    Someone will pay  3 million for him. We should be able to get a lot better for that money. 
    Absolutely no guarantee 3M would get us a better midfield. Does he offer much outside goalscoring and driving with the ball not really, but those traits still made him our top scorer, which can’t be understated because otherwise we would be relegated. 

    Besides Ramsay, Sichenje, Edwards, Lloyd Jones, Bell, Godden and Leaburn (although he’s not exceptional at anything in particular), every single one of our players are mostly one trick ponies and lack a lot from their overall game 
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,407
    Gribbo said:
    Carter said:
    Sonny Carey is worth money in this league and I think has a high ceiling to where he can go. I'd rather we didn't sell him but accept our place in the food chain 

    Challenge as always is replacing what you lose and with Carey its a lot. Midfield goals, decent set piece delivery and a fairly long throw as well as a really good fuel tank and desire to be involved 
    I don't disagree, but we probably won't go up accepting that and it raises a couple of questions re' what would take us higher up the food chain?

    - Major - with a captital M - investment from the owners?

    - A change in management?

    - A vegan kitchen at SL?

    - All of the above?
    Is a vegan kitchen made out of wood and dried veg?
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,905
    I noted at Swansea that Ramsey was the last player on the pitch clapping and waving to the fans after the game.. even though he hadn't played any part in it.  Surprised no one has mentioned it (that I have seen anyway).  Previous years we have had full summers discussing what that might mean. 
  • AberystwythAddick
    AberystwythAddick Posts: 1,554
    It’ll be an interesting one, we are going to have to enter a playing trading model to ensure we have money coming in to build squads. Other teams in the champ have been very successful at this. 
    At the moment we don’t really have anyone worth a huge amount with Carey probably being up there as one who could bring in the largest fee. 
    The big if is if we were to get a decent return on him as a free transfer, would we be able to reinvest that into the next Carey or better? 
    I wouldn’t want him to leave as he’s done exceptionally well for us given pre season expectations. But I could understand if a deal was done.