Premier League 25/26

letthegoodtimesroll said:

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

letthegoodtimesroll said:

Elthamaddick said:

I can see West Ham taking a point off Arsenal

Whatever the outcome of tonight’s game. Ie they reach the Champions League Final or they don’t, Arsenal will have to pay the consequences of the energy spent as a result.

West Ham, on the other hand, have battled best when they’ve been in a relegation spot and trying to battle their way out. They are back in that position. The Spurs revival will have been a wake up call and I can see West Ham pulling off a shock and beating Arsenal.

They play tonight and then West Ham isn't until Sunday, so that should be fairly manageable.

It won’t be a question of how many days rest they have in between matches, I think it’s more of a question of how many games they will need to get it out of their system. The West Ham game will be the first one Arsenal play. That’s when if there is some lethagy from tonight’s game and qualifying/not qualifying for the Champions League Final it’s likely going to hit them and their fans on the pitch next Sunday.

Will having their fans on the pitch help or hinder them? 

CaptainRobbo said:

Athletico Charlton said:

Chelsea have huge issues.  Massive long contracts make some players lazy. The best will want to leave, the average will hang around.  FFP will ruin them (hopefully).

Is Winston Bogarde still under contract there?

For any CL Members under 35:

Winston Bogarde signed for Chelsea in 2000 for 40k a week and a 4 year contract; this is 5 years after the Bosman ruling changed football contracts in the favour of players. 

Bogarde was a 30 year old Dutch international who only played 9 games in his 1st year. After that he wasn't wanted and never played another game for Chelsea in the next 3 seasons.

40k was a big Premier wage 26 years ago and no one else would pay that so he decided to turn up and train with the Youth team  or many times on his own at Cobham  making sure he was always on time and turned up so he couldn't be fined or sacked.

He dug his heals in and walked away with £8,320,000 before tax which could've been 40%.

Not too shabby for having a kick about with the Youth for 2 hours before going back to a mansion in Surrey.

soapboxsam said:

CaptainRobbo said:

Athletico Charlton said:

Chelsea have huge issues.  Massive long contracts make some players lazy. The best will want to leave, the average will hang around.  FFP will ruin them (hopefully).

Is Winston Bogarde still under contract there?

For any CL Members under 35:

Winston Bogarde signed for Chelsea in 2000 for 40k a week and a 4 year contract; this is 5 years after the Bosman ruling changed football contracts in the favour of players. 

Bogarde was a 30 year old Dutch international who only played 9 games in his 1st year. After that he wasn't wanted and never played another game for Chelsea in the next 3 seasons.

40k was a big Premier wage 26 years ago and no one else would pay that so he decided to turn up and train with the Youth team  or many times on his own at Cobham  making sure he was always on time and turned up so he couldn't be fined or sacked.

He dug his heals in and walked away with £8,320,000 before tax which could've been 40%.

Not too shabby for having a kick about with the Youth for 2 hours before going back to a mansion in Surrey.

I quite admired him for his stance. Not sure why Chelsea didn't loan him out though to at least save part of the salary.

"Why should I throw fifteen million euro away when it is already mine? At the moment I signed it was in fact my money, my contract. Both sides agreed wholeheartedly. I could go elsewhere to play for less, but you have to understand my history to understand I would never do that. I used to be poor as a kid, did not have anything to spend or something to play with. This world is about money, so when you are offered those millions you take them. Few people will ever earn so much. I am one of the few fortunates who do. I may be one of the worst buys in the history of the Premiership, but I don't care."

jimmymelrose said:

I think Bogarde is the true meaning of ’cult hero’ with those words, especially as it’s Chelsea money, lol.

Which by then was Abramovich's money, and therefore stolen anyway

soapboxsam said:

Cracking 1st goal for Liverpool by Gravenberch after 10 minutes and van Dyke somehow couldn't hit the target when Chelsea tried to play off side but a blues foot played the captain onside but he put the chance over the bar when totally unmarked in the box when the Chelsea lad decided to stick his hand up and rush forward !

is this meant to be read as if an excited child has just run in from outside to tell us about it? 

soapboxsam said:

EugenesAxe said:

soapboxsam said:

Cracking 1st goal for Liverpool by Gravenberch after 10 minutes and van Dyke somehow couldn't hit the target when Chelsea tried to play off side but a blues foot played the captain onside but he put the chance over the bar when totally unmarked in the box when the Chelsea lad decided to stick his hand up and rush forward !

is this meant to be read as if an excited child has just run in from outside to tell us about it?  

Calm down, calm down are we there yet 😀

I got the impression that everyone was watching Saints v Middlesbrough?

Chelsea have played well and passed and moved and look nothing like a team that have lost 6 in a row.

1-1 after a soft freak free kick that went straight  in.

I think everyone is watching Saints v Middlesbrough, it was the lack of a single bit of punctuation that made it feel very excited!

Was thinking that Villa might yet regret throwing that game against Spurs.
Then see that Villa are playing Burnley next.
As you were.

Miserableoldgit said:

Wonder if Iraola is thinking about changing his mind. 16 unbeaten in PL, 6th place, couple of points off 5th and possible Champions League next season. 

Don’t know what the new guy they have already appointed would have to say about that.

Miserableoldgit said:

JohnBoyUK said:

Miserableoldgit said:

Is Spurs John going to watch the game tomorrow ?

too right I'm bloody watching it!

Supporting ?

Arsenal.  Tottenham's future in the PL depends on the result.  Annoying but there you go.

Anyone see the Man City fan doing cocaine on MOTD?

Its after the first goal

The pundits say ’it wasn’t enough’. VAR obviously thinks the same because it was a clear push on Schade.
How can a push ’not be enough’? What constitutes ’enough’? 
A push is a push. Defenders quite simply shouldn't be pushing and holding.

 On this occasion (Man City v Brentford  yesterday) Thiago centres it to Schade who’s through on goal and he gets pushed as he running onto the ball to shoot. We’re told that he tripped over his own feet but so what if he did? Maybe you would too if you’d been pushed. Whether he tripped over his own feet,  or fell on purpose is irrelevant, because it was a push on an attacker with a cleat goalscoring opportunity.  The referee made a clear and obvious error. VAR, or their interpretation of the rules, is absolute bullshit.

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