James Bree - signed new 3 year deal at Southampton (p20)

raytreacy said:

Bedsaddick said:

I’d still take Clarke over Bree 

No to Clarke he makes too many mistakes.

Still need Ipswich to release their retained list but if he’s going on a free and don’t trigger the option it would be silly to not have a look at him rather than spending millions. 

Crispywood said:

raytreacy said:

Bedsaddick said:

I’d still take Clarke over Bree 

No to Clarke he makes too many mistakes.

Still need Ipswich to release their retained list but if he’s going on a free and don’t trigger the option it would be silly to not have a look at him rather than spending millions. 

His throw ins alone must be worth a pretty penny. 

Bree isn’t even worth talking about no chance he’s coming back here 

Clarke’s better with his hands than his feet. We should be targeting better 

There was no mention of James Bree, who is expected to sign a new deal.

https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/26189323.southampton-confirm-stewart-release-full-retained-list-revealed/

killerandflash said:

Signed a 3 year deal.

Oh well good luck to him,not really one that got away imo as we would have had to pay out the ass for him in wages i'd expect to match them.

And some of you were saying he wasn’t good enough for us….

Just remember that cracking goal at Derby...👌🙌

Scoham said:

AberystwythAddick said:

And some of you were saying he wasn’t good enough for us….

Doesn’t change for me our need for pace at wing back on both sides. Believe he’s mainly played RB for them, where he’s better suited.

Not saying he wouldn’t have been a good signing, but Bree or Clarke and Edwards or similar as our two first choice wing backs shouldn’t be what we’re aiming for.

I can see us struggling if they’re the type of wing backs we end up with on both sides.

Bree got 4 goals and 5 assists last season, those are the stats of a full back who'd good going forward, and very capable of playing at wing back.

Scoham said:

killerandflash said:

Scoham said:

AberystwythAddick said:

And some of you were saying he wasn’t good enough for us….

Doesn’t change for me our need for pace at wing back on both sides. Believe he’s mainly played RB for them, where he’s better suited.

Not saying he wouldn’t have been a good signing, but Bree or Clarke and Edwards or similar as our two first choice wing backs shouldn’t be what we’re aiming for.

I can see us struggling if they’re the type of wing backs we end up with on both sides.

Bree got 4 goals and 5 assists last season, those are the stats of a full back who'd good going forward, and very capable of playing at wing back.

I wasn’t suggesting he doesn’t offer something going forward, but pace and taking players on aren’t his strengths. We lack it across the squad in general and wing back on both sides is a position where it makes sense to add it.

It was also the only season of his career where he’s scored more than one league goal. No doubt he’d get assists as he has a good cross and set piece when he’s on form, but he’s not someone we could have relied on to regularly be a goal threat.

And this is exactly the problem for some people, rightly or wrongly people care more about being entertained than what is effective or what the situation requires. 

Crispywood said:

Scoham said:

killerandflash said:

Scoham said:

AberystwythAddick said:

And some of you were saying he wasn’t good enough for us….

Doesn’t change for me our need for pace at wing back on both sides. Believe he’s mainly played RB for them, where he’s better suited.

Not saying he wouldn’t have been a good signing, but Bree or Clarke and Edwards or similar as our two first choice wing backs shouldn’t be what we’re aiming for.

I can see us struggling if they’re the type of wing backs we end up with on both sides.

Bree got 4 goals and 5 assists last season, those are the stats of a full back who'd good going forward, and very capable of playing at wing back.

I wasn’t suggesting he doesn’t offer something going forward, but pace and taking players on aren’t his strengths. We lack it across the squad in general and wing back on both sides is a position where it makes sense to add it.

It was also the only season of his career where he’s scored more than one league goal. No doubt he’d get assists as he has a good cross and set piece when he’s on form, but he’s not someone we could have relied on to regularly be a goal threat.

And this is exactly the problem for some people, rightly or wrongly people care more about being entertained than what is effective or what the situation requires. 

A trait is only needed is if it is what the manager or system needs. If Jones cares about his wingbacks having pace or wants that option absolutely it’s a must but if it’s about being solid and being able to put in a delivery that’s perfectly acceptable as well. 

The players we should be going for is what Jones deems the most appropriate not what gives us the best viewing because end of the day our main priority is win. 

That’s a big assumption based on me only mentioning a need for pace. I care far more about us winning than entertainment. I’m not asking for playmakers, tricky wingers or a more exciting or possession style of play.

This is purely about the balance of our team, based on watching us under Jones and our successful vs unsuccessful teams in the past. 

We went on our promotion winning run after we put Small at RWB and TC drifted to the left. Jones tried solid teams this season but always came back to playing TC, who get plenty of minutes despite his lack of goals and assists (not all his fault on the latter, he did create chances for others).

We won’t progress in the Championship without that getting that balance right. Eleven solid players will grind out some results, but those type of teams tend to get pinned back, put under a lot of pressure defensively and struggle to create enough chances. It’s not a sustainable way to play across a whole season.

Scoham said:

AberystwythAddick said:

And some of you were saying he wasn’t good enough for us….

Doesn’t change for me our need for pace at wing back on both sides. Believe he’s mainly played RB for them, where he’s better suited.

Not saying he wouldn’t have been a good signing, but Bree or Clarke and Edwards or similar as our two first choice wing backs shouldn’t be what we’re aiming for.

I can see us struggling if they’re the type of wing backs we end up with on both sides.

I rate Bree and yet I also kind of agree with this. I think Clarke had more pace, but lacked Bree's quality in the final third. 

SDAddick said:

Scoham said:

AberystwythAddick said:

And some of you were saying he wasn’t good enough for us….

Doesn’t change for me our need for pace at wing back on both sides. Believe he’s mainly played RB for them, where he’s better suited.

Not saying he wouldn’t have been a good signing, but Bree or Clarke and Edwards or similar as our two first choice wing backs shouldn’t be what we’re aiming for.

I can see us struggling if they’re the type of wing backs we end up with on both sides.

I rate Bree and yet I also kind of agree with this. I think Clarke had more pace, but lacked Bree's quality in the final third. 

Bree started well and then faded badly .  He evidently did well at Southampton in a much better side .  I’m not disappointed he’s not coming back .  

IdleHans said:

At least that should put an end to the cheese puns

Some on here will still milk it.

All these cheese puns certainly grate...🤦‍♂️

Clarke was part of the Ipswich side which went up a couple of seasons ago. His throw ins have been very productive. Absolute madness not to try to get him if it is possible.