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Harry Clarke - rumoured to be released by Ipswich (p18)
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Am not convinced. He made a lot of mistakes in his last few games for us.3
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I'd be delighted if we signed him and if it's within budget, it's a no brainer imo. Garrymanilow made some really interesting points about him maybe getting worse under Jones, though, and curtailing his natural strengths due to our style of play.
However, if we can sign other players to become more "expansive" (all relative when it comes to the style of football we play, admittedly) then great. I think we were explicitly in survival mode at the end of last season and that resulted in what we saw. If we go in with loftier expectations and a few other additions then Clarke will look like the bloke he was pre-injury.
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He makes our squad stronger. No brainer.1
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Harry Clarke on a free is an absolute nobrainer if we can make it happen9
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Ignore the recency bias, and you would sign him happily, would add to the squad, gives us physicallity, and can play in a number of positions.2
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Makes sense to sign him as long as we have alternatives that are more attacking, whether that’s Fevrier or someone else.
He’s clearly Championship standard but he’s not great at taking players on, and he’s not likely to start scoring goals, two things we lack across the squad.1 -
Love him to come here, BUT, if he's on a free, there will be a lot of interest1
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Love how this started as Clarke being released to now Clarke rumored to be released. I fully expect him to sign a ten year extension with Ipswich tomorrow12
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I suspect he’ll get a very decent promotion related increase in wage, which risks him deciding to stay.LargeAddick said:I would actually be surprised if he’s released. I’m sure they’d be a number of clubs interested in his services and if they trigger the year option they have then would get a fee of 500k/1m. Unless of course he has a huge pay rise on promotion to the PL and they realise no one else will match them and so they’d be stuck with him for a year.
That could cost Ipswich ~£1m a year, of which they’ll see nothing back when he leaves for free next summer.1 -
Be more than happy to sign him. But as always wages and any potential fee need to be right. We have a limited budget. If a wealthier club come in we may not be in the game.0
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Worth noting that prior to joining us he hadn't played any games and was injured I believe for a lot of the previous season.. to be expected he faded towards the end. If we can afford him it's a no brainer to sign him imo0
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Would be a great signing on a free0
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Redhenry said:Would be a great signing on a freeIt would, assuming the wages are sustainable. There will be a lot of competition from clubs with bigger budgets than us. The other big factor, as others have said, is our style of play and Harry didn't seem as happy towards the end of the season as he was when he came in in January - that's an observation which may be very wide of the mark.He is a good footballer and very versatile - started off as a midfielder and can play right back or central defence - but I don't think he's a wing back.1
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I really liked him and rated him. If he's free and affordable without upsetting the wage structure he should definitely be in the club's thinking. He started exceptionally but tailed off towards the end of the season like many did however his crossing, throw-ins and desire to win were excellent - even more so for a loanee.
I did see him have a couple of strops and it could point to a slight attitude problem - or that could be misconstrued and is actually more desire to play and win which isn't a bad thing.
Absolute no brainer if the attitude thing isn't an issue
Good age and future sell on potential if needed but could also become a mainstay for a number of years.6 -
Though he did seem to lose a bit of steam towards the end of the season, I think everyone who wasn't Docherty and maybe Jones did too so I wouldn't hold it against him overly. He'd certainly be a good option and would be a good player to have in those games when we are a bit more backs to the wall.0
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Again, for those of you turning your nose up at the prospect of signing Harry Clarke and saying we should be aiming higher. Just give your head a wobble for a moment, come on!18
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We would know what we are getting so less of a risk.1
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If he is on a free and wage demand within our structure then think he would be a good addition1
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If true that Kaminski is on around 15k, I'm sure that 20k a week would tempt Clarke to come.bobmunro said:Redhenry said:Would be a great signing on a freeIt would, assuming the wages are sustainable. There will be a lot of competition from clubs with bigger budgets than us. The other big factor, as others have said, is our style of play and Harry didn't seem as happy towards the end of the season as he was when he came in in January - that's an observation which may be very wide of the mark.He is a good footballer and very versatile - started off as a midfielder and can play right back or central defence - but I don't think he's a wing back.1 -
Let's break our wage structure for a wing-back who can't cross or finish, yesElfsborgAddick said:
If true that Kaminski is on around 15k, I'm sure that 20k a week would tempt Clarke to come.bobmunro said:Redhenry said:Would be a great signing on a freeIt would, assuming the wages are sustainable. There will be a lot of competition from clubs with bigger budgets than us. The other big factor, as others have said, is our style of play and Harry didn't seem as happy towards the end of the season as he was when he came in in January - that's an observation which may be very wide of the mark.He is a good footballer and very versatile - started off as a midfielder and can play right back or central defence - but I don't think he's a wing back.6 -
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Saw him put plenty of decent balls into the box.Leuth said:
Let's break our wage structure for a wing-back who can't cross or finish, yesElfsborgAddick said:
If true that Kaminski is on around 15k, I'm sure that 20k a week would tempt Clarke to come.bobmunro said:Redhenry said:Would be a great signing on a freeIt would, assuming the wages are sustainable. There will be a lot of competition from clubs with bigger budgets than us. The other big factor, as others have said, is our style of play and Harry didn't seem as happy towards the end of the season as he was when he came in in January - that's an observation which may be very wide of the mark.He is a good footballer and very versatile - started off as a midfielder and can play right back or central defence - but I don't think he's a wing back.7 -
This is pretty much my view re signing Clarke - he wouldn't be the worst addition to the squad but we have 4/5 positions in the side which are opportunities to change the way we play and having at least one of our wing backs as a player who can carry the ball, take his man on and fly is one of them. I see Clarke as a utility man tbh if we are to build a side that is significantly better than we currently are.Scoham said:Makes sense to sign him as long as we have alternatives that are more attacking, whether that’s Fevrier or someone else.
He’s clearly Championship standard but he’s not great at taking players on, and he’s not likely to start scoring goals, two things we across the squad.1 -
If anyone thinks we can sign better if he is a free agent I think there is a case to refer them to a shrink0
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I'm totally fine with this if it doesn't smash the wage structure to pieces.
Would want a Fev type attacking option in the building too though.1 -
We shouldn’t break our wage structure for him, however a player of his quality is probably worth 1M+, giving him 20k a week would cover that fee for a year.Leuth said:
Let's break our wage structure for a wing-back who can't cross or finish, yesElfsborgAddick said:
If true that Kaminski is on around 15k, I'm sure that 20k a week would tempt Clarke to come.bobmunro said:Redhenry said:Would be a great signing on a freeIt would, assuming the wages are sustainable. There will be a lot of competition from clubs with bigger budgets than us. The other big factor, as others have said, is our style of play and Harry didn't seem as happy towards the end of the season as he was when he came in in January - that's an observation which may be very wide of the mark.He is a good footballer and very versatile - started off as a midfielder and can play right back or central defence - but I don't think he's a wing back.2 -
If we're planning on playing a back four, offer him a deal.
If we're not, don't.
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Who else are we going to get that is good as Harry Clarke on a free transfer?Leuth said:If we're planning on playing a back four, offer him a deal.
If we're not, don't.
That simple for me3 -
Agree with this, think Clarke would be a very good right back but he doesn’t offer enough going forward as a wingback especially if we play Edwards on the other sideLeuth said:If we're planning on playing a back four, offer him a deal.
If we're not, don't.
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This kind of comment is absolutely maddening. Maybe we've been doing some scouting?Crispywood said:
Who else are we going to get that is good as Harry Clarke on a free transfer?Leuth said:If we're planning on playing a back four, offer him a deal.
If we're not, don't.
That simple for me5 -
There will be loads of free transfers available as players run their contracts down these days - i'd be amazed if we don't have a list of potentials on our radar and been talking to them for monthsCrispywood said:
Who else are we going to get that is good as Harry Clarke on a free transfer?Leuth said:If we're planning on playing a back four, offer him a deal.
If we're not, don't.
That simple for me0
