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EFL Playoffs 25/26 (Saints booted out of final and given 4 point deduction - pg34)

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  • CaptainRobbo
    CaptainRobbo Posts: 2,009
    SporadicAddick said:
    There have been a few comments on here asking if Southampton had spied on us, or suggesting they may have. 

    I asked Google AI for the definitive position on this, and it has confirmed that the answer is no, they didn't spy on us, for some very clear reasons.



    Our performance against Southampton at home was definitely to League One standards.
  • HastingsRed
    HastingsRed Posts: 1,776
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    HastingsRed said:
    _MrDick said:
    I would expect Southampton to have a thorough investigation and sack all of those involved for gross misconduct. I have a small amount of sympathy for the intern as he was probably acting under instruction. But this is Southampton.. it’ll all probably be brushed under the carpet 
    Doubt they will sack the manager.
    I honestly don't see how he can keep his job. For the club to gain any ounce of respect back over this, the owner has to condemn their actions and sack him and his staff.
    Fair enough....just hope the owner wasn't in on it to.
  • jose
    jose Posts: 1,293
    Will this tree replace the Sycamore Gap tree in the nation’s hearts?



  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 21,693
    CharltonManor1966 said:
    HastingsRed said:
    _MrDick said:
    I would expect Southampton to have a thorough investigation and sack all of those involved for gross misconduct. I have a small amount of sympathy for the intern as he was probably acting under instruction. But this is Southampton.. it’ll all probably be brushed under the carpet 
    Doubt they will sack the manager.
    They will if the EFL give him a one year ban!?
    It will be The FA who determine any individual sanction.

  • Er_Be_Ab_Pl_Wo_Wo_Ch
    Er_Be_Ab_Pl_Wo_Wo_Ch Posts: 2,197
    edited May 20
    The home drubbing to Soton was possibly the beginning of the end for Rob Apter - hooked on 24 mins at 0-4. That game certainly didn't help his cause, anyway.
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 5,447
    🎵Oh when the Spies
    Oh when the Spies go marching in
    I wanna be in that tree house when the Spies  go marching in 🎵
  • ken_shabby
    ken_shabby Posts: 6,616
    CaptainRobbo said:
    SporadicAddick said:
    There have been a few comments on here asking if Southampton had spied on us, or suggesting they may have. 

    I asked Google AI for the definitive position on this, and it has confirmed that the answer is no, they didn't spy on us, for some very clear reasons.



    Our performance against Southampton at home was definitely to League One standards.
    So what does the I stand for in AI?
  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,511
    se9addick said:
    Callumcafc said:
    https://x.com/nozza_/status/2057012330689343505?s=46&t=ynww82GMl7VKBjthBflU0g
    I think we’re getting a bit carried away if we think a) Southampton spied on us (as yet they haven’t admitted to this), b) the things they gleaned from that endeavour is why they obliterated us in that first half of our home match, c) this led to our form going off a cliff. 
    Agreed they were miles better than us on the day. Not sure where they could have spied. Having been to Eltham it's a massive site with a drive to the area. 
  • Addickted2TheReds
    Addickted2TheReds Posts: 7,814
    Where does Eckert go from here after a, surely, inevitable departure? 

    Will anyone else hire him? 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 18,648
    Addickted2TheReds said:
    Where does Eckert go from here after a, surely, inevitable departure? 

    Will anyone else hire him? 
    Obviously he has a much better reputation but Bielsa hasn't struggled since. He'll have to drop down a rung or two and he won't manage in England for a while, if ever, but he'll be fine for a 2. Bundesliga side or similar

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  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,511
    edited May 20
    I have a mate who lives in Eastleigh. We've been all over the UK watching Charlton... This year him and his son have been watching Southampton instead of Charlton .... That will teach them. I am staying in Southampton Monday night interesting to hear the buzz and excuses in the city. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 35,815
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    Karim_myBagheri said:
    Wrexham forward Josh Windass has called for the Championship play-offs to be replayed with the Welsh club taking the place of Southampton.

    The media world will definitely support that.. 
    Zero chance of this happening because there's a ruling in place that all club matches have to be played by 24 May ahead of players joining up with squads for the world cup. It's why the Championship final was moved from it's usual Monday to the Saturday, and why the EFL are desperate to get the final played on this date without having to move it.

    Only the Champions and Conference league finals are exemptions from this.
    A ruling by whom ?  FIFA (who run the WC) or the EFL (who run the play offs).
  • barstool
    barstool Posts: 1,413
    Addickted2TheReds said:
    Where does Eckert go from here after a, surely, inevitable departure? 

    Will anyone else hire him? 
    He will need at least a year at spy school
  • DyerConsequences
    DyerConsequences Posts: 3,052
    Southampton: Punishment is manifestly disproportionate:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cn4p284ny2ko
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 7,496
    Addickted2TheReds said:
    Where does Eckert go from here after a, surely, inevitable departure? 

    Will anyone else hire him? 
    They haven't cast the new James Bond yet have they? He's got real life field experience now 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 23,105
    DyerConsequences said:
    Southampton: Punishment is manifestly disproportionate:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cn4p284ny2ko
    Silly pricks, no it's not, their cheating led them to be able to get to the playoffs at all (no chance it was just 3 games) so kicking them out the playoffs is the least they deserved. 

    Bringing up past infringements of completely different rules, in completely different divisions in completely different scenarios means fuck all, like saying well that guy got away with a murder in Azerbaijan and another guy got away with stealing a car in Argentina so my armed assault in the UK shouldn't stand 
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 19,205
    The Luton comparison is a massive piss take, that club was put into the stone age by that decision for years
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,763
    edited May 20
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    Karim_myBagheri said:
    Wrexham forward Josh Windass has called for the Championship play-offs to be replayed with the Welsh club taking the place of Southampton.

    The media world will definitely support that.. 
    Zero chance of this happening because there's a ruling in place that all club matches have to be played by 24 May ahead of players joining up with squads for the world cup. It's why the Championship final was moved from it's usual Monday to the Saturday, and why the EFL are desperate to get the final played on this date without having to move it.

    Only the Champions and Conference league finals are exemptions from this.
    Yes, the World Cup exacerbates the situation - bizarrely, I hadn't factored that in!
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 26,390
    edited May 20
    I just hope to hell that the new appeals board don't just crumble under the pressure, this has gone on long enough and needs putting to bed for 'Boro and Hull's sake, and the long suffering fans ffs......
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 4,536
    sam3110 said:
    DyerConsequences said:
    Southampton: Punishment is manifestly disproportionate:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cn4p284ny2ko
    Silly pricks, no it's not, their cheating led them to be able to get to the playoffs at all (no chance it was just 3 games) so kicking them out the playoffs is the least they deserved. 

    Bringing up past infringements of completely different rules, in completely different divisions in completely different scenarios means fuck all, like saying well that guy got away with a murder in Azerbaijan and another guy got away with stealing a car in Argentina so my armed assault in the UK shouldn't stand 
    Well apparently murder is a one day...


    still don't know what that meant?

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  • Spanish
    Spanish Posts: 860
    North Lower Neil said:
    Chunes said:
    Makes you wonder how they played through our shape so effectively that day they smashed us...
    I mean, we were crap.  That helped.
    Maybe that's why they loaned Bree to us ??
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 21,693
    Spanish said:
    North Lower Neil said:
    Chunes said:
    Makes you wonder how they played through our shape so effectively that day they smashed us...
    I mean, we were crap.  That helped.
    Maybe that's why they loaned Bree to us ??

    The name is Bree, James Bree.

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  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,763
    https://www.mfc.co.uk/news/2026/may/20/ticket-details-for-sky-bet-championship-play-off-final/
    Boro selling tickets for the final from 1pm today. Time is of the essence, but the outcome of the appeal hasn't been announced yet

    https://www.southamptonfc.com/en/news/article/sky-bet-championship-play-off-final-tickets-available-to-all-members
    The Sinners one showing a 404 error

    On the tickets tab, it says 

    Please note that the Ticket Office will be closed on Wednesday 20th May.

  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,825
    edited May 20
    eastterrace6168 said:
    I just hope to hell that the new appeals board don't just crumble under the pressure, this has gone on long enough and needs putting to bed for 'Boro and Hull's sake, and the long suffering fans ffs......
    If there’s any pressure then I’d imagine it will be to not reinstate Southampton. 
  • JohnnyH2
    JohnnyH2 Posts: 5,504
    SoundAsa£ said:
    Be interesting to hear what Mike Channon and Matt Le Tissier have to say……both loyal and somewhat outspoken ex players……I imagine they’ll tell it like it is, no holds barred.
    https://x.com/i/status/2057077393001501037

    Le Tissier's view
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,763
    JohnnyH2 said:
    SoundAsa£ said:
    Be interesting to hear what Mike Channon and Matt Le Tissier have to say……both loyal and somewhat outspoken ex players……I imagine they’ll tell it like it is, no holds barred.
    https://x.com/i/status/2057077393001501037

    Le Tissier's view
    Silly comparison - not unexpected from him though
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,842
    PrincessFiona said:
    JohnnyH2 said:
    SoundAsa£ said:
    Be interesting to hear what Mike Channon and Matt Le Tissier have to say……both loyal and somewhat outspoken ex players……I imagine they’ll tell it like it is, no holds barred.
    https://x.com/i/status/2057077393001501037

    Le Tissier's view
    Silly comparison - not unexpected from him though
    I am very surprised at his comment……not what I would have expected.🤔
  • Rizzo
    Rizzo Posts: 6,543
    SoundAsa£ said:
    PrincessFiona said:
    JohnnyH2 said:
    SoundAsa£ said:
    Be interesting to hear what Mike Channon and Matt Le Tissier have to say……both loyal and somewhat outspoken ex players……I imagine they’ll tell it like it is, no holds barred.
    https://x.com/i/status/2057077393001501037

    Le Tissier's view
    Silly comparison - not unexpected from him though
    I am very surprised at his comment……not what I would have expected.🤔
    At least he's making some sort of sense, even if I don't agree with him. Was fully expecting him to blame chemtrails, vaccines and space lizards.  
  • jose
    jose Posts: 1,293
    The reason we have referees in games, for good or bad, is supposed to ensure a fair game, and they have the power to directly deal with cheating such as a dive for a penalty.
    There is no sensible comparison to be made with shithousery in a refereed game and secret spying against explicit rules.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,833
    msomerton said:
    A radical solution to this issue for the future.
    Every team can send a scout to the training of their next opponent to report back what is being done, this be done through out the season, then no one can pull any surprise set pieces ,  or open play ones on each other.
    Great idea.
    Then send them the team sheet 48 hours before KO and allow them into the opposition changing room for 2 hours before kick off.

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