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Kaheim Dixon - recalled from Crawley (p34)

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  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 38,886
    Dixon’s 22 in October, he really needs another loan and has to make the step up this time. 

    I get that loans can go wrong if the club or manager aren’t a good fit, especially first ones, but if it happens again it’ll suggest he needs to drop to a lower level.

    He’s got a lot of competition as things stand with Mbick and Kanu ahead of him after their successful loans and u21s overtaking him if they develop faster than he has.

    On the Lookman comparison, he’s far from the only young attacker we have with pace and skill who can cut inside and shoot. That’s where the comparison ends, Lookman was miles ahead at a younger age, and he didn’t have 10+ years in academy football either.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 9,859
    Scoham said:
    Dixon’s 22 in October, he really needs another loan and has to make the step up this time. 

    I get that loans can go wrong if the club or manager aren’t a good fit, especially first ones, but if it happens again it’ll suggest he needs to drop to a lower level.

    He’s got a lot of competition as things stand with Mbick and Kanu ahead of him after their successful loans and u21s overtaking him if they develop faster than he has.

    On the Lookman comparison, he’s far from the only young attacker we have with pace and skill who can cut inside and shoot. That’s where the comparison ends, Lookman was miles ahead at a younger age, and he didn’t have 10+ years in academy football either.
    I feel like there's something there with Dixon but we need to get this next loan right. If Col U sell Kyreece Lisbie as is heavily rumoured I'd be offering the Cowley's Dixon for the season after the work they did with Mbick. 
  • SteveACS
    SteveACS Posts: 509
    MarcusH26 said:
    Scoham said:
    Dixon’s 22 in October, he really needs another loan and has to make the step up this time. 

    I get that loans can go wrong if the club or manager aren’t a good fit, especially first ones, but if it happens again it’ll suggest he needs to drop to a lower level.

    He’s got a lot of competition as things stand with Mbick and Kanu ahead of him after their successful loans and u21s overtaking him if they develop faster than he has.

    On the Lookman comparison, he’s far from the only young attacker we have with pace and skill who can cut inside and shoot. That’s where the comparison ends, Lookman was miles ahead at a younger age, and he didn’t have 10+ years in academy football either.
    I feel like there's something there with Dixon but we need to get this next loan right. If Col U sell Kyreece Lisbie as is heavily rumoured I'd be offering the Cowley's Dixon for the season after the work they did with Mbick. 
    Walsall? Kanu blossomed there...
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 9,859
    SteveACS said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    Scoham said:
    Dixon’s 22 in October, he really needs another loan and has to make the step up this time. 

    I get that loans can go wrong if the club or manager aren’t a good fit, especially first ones, but if it happens again it’ll suggest he needs to drop to a lower level.

    He’s got a lot of competition as things stand with Mbick and Kanu ahead of him after their successful loans and u21s overtaking him if they develop faster than he has.

    On the Lookman comparison, he’s far from the only young attacker we have with pace and skill who can cut inside and shoot. That’s where the comparison ends, Lookman was miles ahead at a younger age, and he didn’t have 10+ years in academy football either.
    I feel like there's something there with Dixon but we need to get this next loan right. If Col U sell Kyreece Lisbie as is heavily rumoured I'd be offering the Cowley's Dixon for the season after the work they did with Mbick. 
    Walsall? Kanu blossomed there...
    Depends how much the Walsall link was tied to Mat Sadler being their manager. 
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,947
    Don’t overlook the fact that he’s not actually very good. 
    Can’t get in a L2 basement team. 
    Methven saw something in him, I wonder why.

    Cause Mathven enjoys holidays in Jamaica and wanted to find a way for the club to pay for those trips out there is my guess.  
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 19,092
    MarcusH26 said:
    SteveACS said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    Scoham said:
    Dixon’s 22 in October, he really needs another loan and has to make the step up this time. 

    I get that loans can go wrong if the club or manager aren’t a good fit, especially first ones, but if it happens again it’ll suggest he needs to drop to a lower level.

    He’s got a lot of competition as things stand with Mbick and Kanu ahead of him after their successful loans and u21s overtaking him if they develop faster than he has.

    On the Lookman comparison, he’s far from the only young attacker we have with pace and skill who can cut inside and shoot. That’s where the comparison ends, Lookman was miles ahead at a younger age, and he didn’t have 10+ years in academy football either.
    I feel like there's something there with Dixon but we need to get this next loan right. If Col U sell Kyreece Lisbie as is heavily rumoured I'd be offering the Cowley's Dixon for the season after the work they did with Mbick. 
    Walsall? Kanu blossomed there...
    Depends how much the Walsall link was tied to Mat Sadler being their manager. 
    Heavily I think. With Lee Grant there now there’s no basis for sending anyone to Walsall. Colchester will probably want Mwamba, Wimbledon might get someone, I’d be tempted to maybe offer Bromley someone too
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 7,578
    Not sure many would've had Dixon's first senior goal at The Valley being for Jamaica vs India  :D
  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,636
    Don’t overlook the fact that he’s not actually very good. 
    Can’t get in a L2 basement team. 
    Methven saw something in him, I wonder why.
    He is not slow but doesn't rely on pace. He is tricky but doesn't rely on dribbling. He is direct and doesn't think about things, relies on instinct. He knows where the onion bag is.

    Much under-estimated by managers he has worked under. 

    Lookmanesque.
    I’m still on the side of seeing how Dixon progresses and hope he has a more settled loan spell next season, but I haven’t seen anything from him that deserves a Lookmanesque description. 
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 2,147
    MarcusH26 said:
    Scoham said:
    Dixon’s 22 in October, he really needs another loan and has to make the step up this time. 

    I get that loans can go wrong if the club or manager aren’t a good fit, especially first ones, but if it happens again it’ll suggest he needs to drop to a lower level.

    He’s got a lot of competition as things stand with Mbick and Kanu ahead of him after their successful loans and u21s overtaking him if they develop faster than he has.

    On the Lookman comparison, he’s far from the only young attacker we have with pace and skill who can cut inside and shoot. That’s where the comparison ends, Lookman was miles ahead at a younger age, and he didn’t have 10+ years in academy football either.
    I feel like there's something there with Dixon but we need to get this next loan right. If Col U sell Kyreece Lisbie as is heavily rumoured I'd be offering the Cowley's Dixon for the season after the work they did with Mbick. 
    Problem is no L2 recruitment team is going to look at a player with 14 L2 appearances only 6 starts with 0 G/A for the worse side in the league and want to pick him up. 

    Can obviously understand Crawley wasn’t the right club for Dixon with their set up but you would still expect some sort of return. 

    Best he gets is a NL loan for 6 months and then hopefully does well enough for a L2 club to take him for 6 months which boosts his value for us to make a profit next summer 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 19,092
    Kaheim Dixon – Along with Whisper Richards, Dixon is a local favourite and as a result of this, sometimes he’s put on a pedestal regardless of whether he’s actually playing well or not. Personally, I don’t think he has done much yet on a big stage to justify the fanfare, but his performance against India is why many believe in his potential. Kaheim was probably the only attacking threat on the pitch and had many opportunities to score before eventually ending the game as a contest in the second half. This was an encouraging performance - let’s see if he can stay consistent and help Jamaica win their first Unity Cup on Saturday.

    https://open.substack.com/pub/reggaeboyzreport/p/match-review-india-0-2-jamaica-27052026?utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web

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  • CaptainRobbo
    CaptainRobbo Posts: 2,136
    fenaddick said:
    Kaheim Dixon – Along with Whisper Richards, Dixon is a local favourite and as a result of this, sometimes he’s put on a pedestal regardless of whether he’s actually playing well or not. Personally, I don’t think he has done much yet on a big stage to justify the fanfare, but his performance against India is why many believe in his potential. Kaheim was probably the only attacking threat on the pitch and had many opportunities to score before eventually ending the game as a contest in the second half. This was an encouraging performance - let’s see if he can stay consistent and help Jamaica win their first Unity Cup on Saturday.

    https://open.substack.com/pub/reggaeboyzreport/p/match-review-india-0-2-jamaica-27052026?utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web

  • sammy391
    sammy391 Posts: 4,074
    Presumably, like quite a few of our younger players, has a HIGE preseason coming up! 

    Hungry, energetic and raw- he could be something worth having on the bench if he can knuckle down this summer. We don’t have many explosive threats coming off the bench at the moment, would be good to see KD fulfil that role
  • arny23394
    arny23394 Posts: 1,423
    sammy391 said:
    Presumably, like quite a few of our younger players, has a HIGE preseason coming up! 

    Hungry, energetic and raw- he could be something worth having on the bench if he can knuckle down this summer. We don’t have many explosive threats coming off the bench at the moment, would be good to see KD fulfil that role
    Might as well have me on the bench. He barely played for a team that finished 22nd in league 2 - he’s currently nowhere near good enough to come off the bench and affect a game at championship level. 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 19,092
    I desperately want Dixon to do well and do think there's *something* in there with him but he definitely isn't ready for Championship football. He needs a loan like Mbick that gives him first team football without much pressure and with good coaching
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 26,643
    edited May 29
    arny23394 said:
    sammy391 said:
    Presumably, like quite a few of our younger players, has a HIGE preseason coming up! 

    Hungry, energetic and raw- he could be something worth having on the bench if he can knuckle down this summer. We don’t have many explosive threats coming off the bench at the moment, would be good to see KD fulfil that role
    Might as well have me on the bench. He barely played for a team that finished 22nd in league 2 - he’s currently nowhere near good enough to come off the bench and affect a game at championship level. 
    Can ya play LWB, and pass the height test, if so yer in...👌
  • Gisappointed
    Gisappointed Posts: 1,246
    edited May 29
    fenaddick said:
    I desperately want Dixon to do well and do think there's *something* in there with him but he definitely isn't ready for Championship football. He needs a loan like Mbick that gives him first team football without much pressure and with good coaching
    Personally I think he has a better chance of succeeding at this level than L1 or L2. He won't be up against sides (like us) who pack the area behind the ball, but will faces defences who rely on quality defenders to mark man to man.

    And I believe he will have the besting of most at least once or twice a match.  People will often say 'defenders don't know what he is going to do next, and neither does he'. I don't think this is the case with Kaheim.


  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 2,147
    fenaddick said:
    I desperately want Dixon to do well and do think there's *something* in there with him but he definitely isn't ready for Championship football. He needs a loan like Mbick that gives him first team football without much pressure and with good coaching
    Personally I think he has a better chance of succeeding at this level than L1 or L2. He won't be up against sides (like us) who pack the area behind the ball, but will faces defences who rely on quality defenders to mark man to man.

    And I believe he will have the besting of most at least once or twice a match.  People will often say 'defenders don't know what he is going to do next, and neither does he'. I don't think this is the case with Kaheim.


    Don’t care what the style or system is if your telling me I have to attack against a Terrell Thomas or a Josh Edwards it’s a very easy decision 
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 30,119
    fenaddick said:
    I desperately want Dixon to do well and do think there's *something* in there with him but he definitely isn't ready for Championship football. He needs a loan like Mbick that gives him first team football without much pressure and with good coaching
    Personally I think he has a better chance of succeeding at this level than L1 or L2. He won't be up against sides (like us) who pack the area behind the ball, but will faces defences who rely on quality defenders to mark man to man.

    And I believe he will have the besting of most at least once or twice a match.  People will often say 'defenders don't know what he is going to do next, and neither does he'. I don't think this is the case with Kaheim.



    Are you his agent?
  • KiwiValley
    KiwiValley Posts: 3,529
    Not sure many would've had Dixon's first senior goal at The Valley being for Jamaica vs India  :D
    Yeah

     I’m gutted so close




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  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,824
    arny23394 said:
    sammy391 said:
    Presumably, like quite a few of our younger players, has a HIGE preseason coming up! 

    Hungry, energetic and raw- he could be something worth having on the bench if he can knuckle down this summer. We don’t have many explosive threats coming off the bench at the moment, would be good to see KD fulfil that role
    Might as well have me on the bench. He barely played for a team that finished 22nd in league 2 - he’s currently nowhere near good enough to come off the bench and affect a game at championship level. 
    I think this has a lot to do with a badly thought out loan, but I do agree he has done nothing to justify a first team bench place. I'd like to see him get a decent team on loan till Jan and then a decision made on his future.
  • Radostanradical
    Radostanradical Posts: 1,281
    We seem to have a thing as a club whenever a loan doesnt work out (Mitchell x2, Dixon at crawley) we seem to say it was the wrong move or the club didnt handle it correct. Whilst I accept that some situations may be better than others no loan will ever be perfect and at some point we need to actually look at the players and see if they have any accountability for why it didnt work out?
  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,824
    We seem to have a thing as a club whenever a loan doesnt work out (Mitchell x2, Dixon at crawley) we seem to say it was the wrong move or the club didnt handle it correct. Whilst I accept that some situations may be better than others no loan will ever be perfect and at some point we need to actually look at the players and see if they have any accountability for why it didnt work out?
    With Dixon I do think that the clubs have a level of accountability and it never looked the right fit from the begining, but Dixon needed to makes the best of it and adapt to the situation. I'd say all three parties are accountable.
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 5,649
    Weren’t Crawley playing him as a 10? That’s never going to be his position 

    Need to see if we can find a league 2 club that’ll take him and either play him out wide or up front in a front 2. If we cover the wages I’m sure there’s a financially distressed club that’ll take him 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 19,092
    We seem to have a thing as a club whenever a loan doesnt work out (Mitchell x2, Dixon at crawley) we seem to say it was the wrong move or the club didnt handle it correct. Whilst I accept that some situations may be better than others no loan will ever be perfect and at some point we need to actually look at the players and see if they have any accountability for why it didnt work out?
    But then we also had a perfect example
    of loans not working last year with Pat Casey. Couldn’t get a game at Maidstone, moved to a club higher in the same division and quickly became and integral part of their team before getting injured. 

    Loans are a bit of a science and until recently had been done on the hoof. Now Dave Huzzey seems to be in charge of finding the young loans and did a decent job last season
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 2,147
    fenaddick said:
    We seem to have a thing as a club whenever a loan doesnt work out (Mitchell x2, Dixon at crawley) we seem to say it was the wrong move or the club didnt handle it correct. Whilst I accept that some situations may be better than others no loan will ever be perfect and at some point we need to actually look at the players and see if they have any accountability for why it didnt work out?
    But then we also had a perfect example
    of loans not working last year with Pat Casey. Couldn’t get a game at Maidstone, moved to a club higher in the same division and quickly became and integral part of their team before getting injured. 

    Loans are a bit of a science and until recently had been done on the hoof. Now Dave Huzzey seems to be in charge of finding the young loans and did a decent job last season
    Great and all but a U21 bagging 40 goals a season in the academy should transition to a 6th tier side very well hence why Dorking were probably happy to make that move. 

    I can’t see any L2 clubs looking at other failed L2 loans and think that’s worth the gamble 
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 86,331
    fenaddick said:
    We seem to have a thing as a club whenever a loan doesnt work out (Mitchell x2, Dixon at crawley) we seem to say it was the wrong move or the club didnt handle it correct. Whilst I accept that some situations may be better than others no loan will ever be perfect and at some point we need to actually look at the players and see if they have any accountability for why it didnt work out?
    But then we also had a perfect example
    of loans not working last year with Pat Casey. Couldn’t get a game at Maidstone, moved to a club higher in the same division and quickly became and integral part of their team before getting injured. 

    Loans are a bit of a science and until recently had been done on the hoof. Now Dave Huzzey seems to be in charge of finding the young loans and did a decent job last season
    Great and all but a U21 bagging 40 goals a season in the academy should transition to a 6th tier side very well hence why Dorking were probably happy to make that move. 

    I can’t see any L2 clubs looking at other failed L2 loans and think that’s worth the gamble 
    Cos like us in recent seasons, beggers can't be choosers.

    Managers with small squads and smaller budgets will take a risk.
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 2,147
    fenaddick said:
    We seem to have a thing as a club whenever a loan doesnt work out (Mitchell x2, Dixon at crawley) we seem to say it was the wrong move or the club didnt handle it correct. Whilst I accept that some situations may be better than others no loan will ever be perfect and at some point we need to actually look at the players and see if they have any accountability for why it didnt work out?
    But then we also had a perfect example
    of loans not working last year with Pat Casey. Couldn’t get a game at Maidstone, moved to a club higher in the same division and quickly became and integral part of their team before getting injured. 

    Loans are a bit of a science and until recently had been done on the hoof. Now Dave Huzzey seems to be in charge of finding the young loans and did a decent job last season
    Great and all but a U21 bagging 40 goals a season in the academy should transition to a 6th tier side very well hence why Dorking were probably happy to make that move. 

    I can’t see any L2 clubs looking at other failed L2 loans and think that’s worth the gamble 
    Cos like us in recent seasons, beggers can't be choosers.

    Managers with small squads and smaller budgets will take a risk.
    Beggars can’t be choosers but out of a playerpool of hundreds of youngsters I think most would rather go for someone unknown opposed to a player at this level who had a pretty horrible time 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 23,302
    They could also look beyond that and see how good he's been in the under 21s games and come to a similar conclusion that Crawley were fucked and didn't know what to do with him
  • southamptonaddick
    southamptonaddick Posts: 4,183
    sam3110 said:
    They could also look beyond that and see how good he's been in the under 21s games and come to a similar conclusion that Crawley were fucked and didn't know what to do with him
    And also, quite possibly, that he plays and has scored in international games.
    Maybe it's "only Jamaica" but how many of the teams he could go to have players that are internationals.