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  • Diebythesword
    Diebythesword Posts: 805
    IIRC clubs aren’t “supposed to” talk to/sign domestic out of contract players until 30 days before the end of their contract, which would be the end of this month. The transfer window hasn’t opened either. Whether discussions have happened otherwise we just don’t know. 
  • doronron
    doronron Posts: 856
    Out of interest, in previous seasons when do clubs start to announce signings typically.  Early June?  Is the window actually open yet?
    Opens Monday 15th june
  • Gisappointed
    Gisappointed Posts: 1,243
    edited June 1
    Rothko said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    RedJohn said:
    When are the boys back at Sparrows Lane for Pre Season?
    Last season preseason started 8 days (4th July) before our opening game against Dartford so you would assume similar time to that 
    We were involved in the play-offs until late May and at least four were subsequently involved in international matches. We will be better rested and prepared this year.

    Off-season allows players to stay fit by doing long runs (aerobic) as opposed to intense sprints of football training (anaerobic).

    Fitness through the season is more reliant on the former than the latter, allowing oxygen to be better absorbed into the bloodstream. 
    You don't stop doing anaerobic work just because it's the off season. Otherwise you're reducing your ability to operate when deprived of oxygen.

    Footballers need to train throughout the year both in season and off season, with aerobic, anaerobic, and resistance work. This keeps their cardiovascular system, bones, ligaments, tendons and of course muscles strong.

    Failing to maintain any of these will see a higher chance of injury as well as a lack of effectiveness - something no player wants to risk introducing to their game. 
    This has to be explained every summer, the players have targets and programmes, they are sent home with a smart watch and other connect kit to monitor their workload, weight, heart rates, etc, and there is no surprises on the first day back, the medical team will know what players states are when they return 
    I have no insight into training regimes of the club apart from photos on the OS but I suspect that once the season is underway, the aerobic aspect of fitness is under-valued, if not ignored totally. Many ITK on this site have access to the training ground and I'd expect a few leaks on who is fastest on a long run. I suspect that the lack indicates that there aren't any. 

    In my sport, once the season started, several sessions were just long, low intensity sessions, perhaps with a bit of balls-out at the end.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 33,844
    doronron said:
    Out of interest, in previous seasons when do clubs start to announce signings typically.  Early June?  Is the window actually open yet?
    Opens Monday 15th june
    Doesn’t stop you signing players though, just means that they can’t play until the window opens but seeing as there are no games anyway it’s a moot point.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 19,007
    Rothko said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    RedJohn said:
    When are the boys back at Sparrows Lane for Pre Season?
    Last season preseason started 8 days (4th July) before our opening game against Dartford so you would assume similar time to that 
    We were involved in the play-offs until late May and at least four were subsequently involved in international matches. We will be better rested and prepared this year.

    Off-season allows players to stay fit by doing long runs (aerobic) as opposed to intense sprints of football training (anaerobic).

    Fitness through the season is more reliant on the former than the latter, allowing oxygen to be better absorbed into the bloodstream. 
    You don't stop doing anaerobic work just because it's the off season. Otherwise you're reducing your ability to operate when deprived of oxygen.

    Footballers need to train throughout the year both in season and off season, with aerobic, anaerobic, and resistance work. This keeps their cardiovascular system, bones, ligaments, tendons and of course muscles strong.

    Failing to maintain any of these will see a higher chance of injury as well as a lack of effectiveness - something no player wants to risk introducing to their game. 
    This has to be explained every summer, the players have targets and programmes, they are sent home with a smart watch and other connect kit to monitor their workload, weight, heart rates, etc, and there is no surprises on the first day back, the medical team will know what players states are when they return 
    I have no insight into training regimes of the club apart from photos on the OS but I suspect that once the season is underway, the aerobic aspect of fitness is under-valued, if not ignored totally. Many ITK on this site have access to the training ground and I'd expect a few leaks on who is fastest on a long run. I suspect that the lack indicates that there aren't any. 

    In my sport, once the season started, several sessions were just long, low intensity sessions, perhaps with a bit of balls-out at the end.
    Given NJ has expressly praised the (aerobic) fitness of players like TC and we know that Kelman and Kanu have hired professionals to oversee their training regime I think it's highly unlike anyone undervalues any element of fitness work. In pre season videos we often see clips of long runs and just last week the women's team were talking about their intense runs having been great preparation for their play off in the heat. You don't see videos or pictures of long runs in the season 1) because they're boring and 2) because they're running 5kish in matches often twice a week. Quite why you think you know more than the professional strength and conditioning team because there are no leaks about who is quickest is baffling.
  • Gisappointed
    Gisappointed Posts: 1,243
    But pre-season or in season?
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 19,007
    But pre-season or in season?
    I covered both 
  • Steven81
    Steven81 Posts: 1,406
    fenaddick said:
    Rothko said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    RedJohn said:
    When are the boys back at Sparrows Lane for Pre Season?
    Last season preseason started 8 days (4th July) before our opening game against Dartford so you would assume similar time to that 
    We were involved in the play-offs until late May and at least four were subsequently involved in international matches. We will be better rested and prepared this year.

    Off-season allows players to stay fit by doing long runs (aerobic) as opposed to intense sprints of football training (anaerobic).

    Fitness through the season is more reliant on the former than the latter, allowing oxygen to be better absorbed into the bloodstream. 
    You don't stop doing anaerobic work just because it's the off season. Otherwise you're reducing your ability to operate when deprived of oxygen.

    Footballers need to train throughout the year both in season and off season, with aerobic, anaerobic, and resistance work. This keeps their cardiovascular system, bones, ligaments, tendons and of course muscles strong.

    Failing to maintain any of these will see a higher chance of injury as well as a lack of effectiveness - something no player wants to risk introducing to their game. 
    This has to be explained every summer, the players have targets and programmes, they are sent home with a smart watch and other connect kit to monitor their workload, weight, heart rates, etc, and there is no surprises on the first day back, the medical team will know what players states are when they return 
    I have no insight into training regimes of the club apart from photos on the OS but I suspect that once the season is underway, the aerobic aspect of fitness is under-valued, if not ignored totally. Many ITK on this site have access to the training ground and I'd expect a few leaks on who is fastest on a long run. I suspect that the lack indicates that there aren't any. 

    In my sport, once the season started, several sessions were just long, low intensity sessions, perhaps with a bit of balls-out at the end.
    Given NJ has expressly praised the (aerobic) fitness of players like TC and we know that Kelman and Kanu have hired professionals to oversee their training regime I think it's highly unlike anyone undervalues any element of fitness work. In pre season videos we often see clips of long runs and just last week the women's team were talking about their intense runs having been great preparation for their play off in the heat. You don't see videos or pictures of long runs in the season 1) because they're boring and 2) because they're running 5kish in matches often twice a week. Quite why you think you know more than the professional strength and conditioning team because there are no leaks about who is quickest is baffling.

  • Addicksi
    Addicksi Posts: 161
    Not sure about that new strip ;)
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 5,128
    edited June 1
    Bree and Southampton cannot agree a new contract so he will become a free agent in a few weeks …from site called Lions Central 

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  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 12,335
    Bree and Southampton cannot agree a new contract so he will become a free agent in a few weeks …from site called Lions Central 

    If that is true (we dont know if it is) then I have no doubt NJ will be straight on the blower. He was injured for the last half of his loan, but when he was fit at Saints, you saw time and again his delivery was top class.
  • jams
    jams Posts: 1,241
    Presumably though he is after more wages than saints are offering, which we surely can't match
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,676
    fenaddick said:
    Rothko said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    RedJohn said:
    When are the boys back at Sparrows Lane for Pre Season?
    Last season preseason started 8 days (4th July) before our opening game against Dartford so you would assume similar time to that 
    We were involved in the play-offs until late May and at least four were subsequently involved in international matches. We will be better rested and prepared this year.

    Off-season allows players to stay fit by doing long runs (aerobic) as opposed to intense sprints of football training (anaerobic).

    Fitness through the season is more reliant on the former than the latter, allowing oxygen to be better absorbed into the bloodstream. 
    You don't stop doing anaerobic work just because it's the off season. Otherwise you're reducing your ability to operate when deprived of oxygen.

    Footballers need to train throughout the year both in season and off season, with aerobic, anaerobic, and resistance work. This keeps their cardiovascular system, bones, ligaments, tendons and of course muscles strong.

    Failing to maintain any of these will see a higher chance of injury as well as a lack of effectiveness - something no player wants to risk introducing to their game. 
    This has to be explained every summer, the players have targets and programmes, they are sent home with a smart watch and other connect kit to monitor their workload, weight, heart rates, etc, and there is no surprises on the first day back, the medical team will know what players states are when they return 
    I have no insight into training regimes of the club apart from photos on the OS but I suspect that once the season is underway, the aerobic aspect of fitness is under-valued, if not ignored totally. Many ITK on this site have access to the training ground and I'd expect a few leaks on who is fastest on a long run. I suspect that the lack indicates that there aren't any. 

    In my sport, once the season started, several sessions were just long, low intensity sessions, perhaps with a bit of balls-out at the end.
    Given NJ has expressly praised the (aerobic) fitness of players like TC and we know that Kelman and Kanu have hired professionals to oversee their training regime I think it's highly unlike anyone undervalues any element of fitness work. In pre season videos we often see clips of long runs and just last week the women's team were talking about their intense runs having been great preparation for their play off in the heat. You don't see videos or pictures of long runs in the season 1) because they're boring and 2) because they're running 5kish in matches often twice a week. Quite why you think you know more than the professional strength and conditioning team because there are no leaks about who is quickest is baffling.
    I think NJ holds the team to quite a high standard of fitness on the basis he likes us to press and be competitive.  The flip side to that though is that the majority of the team were blowing out their backsides come March last season, and it showed in how we tailed off.

    The best way to prevent that is to bring in players who are good on the ball so we see more of it.  If we just had one or two players who could make the ball do the work last season, I think we would’ve been well beyond the relegation places with 5/6 games to go

    it worked last season as we had the promotion bounce, and for the first 10 or so games, we had the legs and the energy to deal with playing the likes of Ipswich and affording them the majority of the ball.   I don’t think we need to abandon that approach, but we do need players who can help us retain possession and put the pressure on our mini league of clubs next season when we play them.  

    I truly believe 2 players who run at teams, keep the ball and move it quickly would equate to the work of 6/7 pressing next season.

    I know we’re not going to revolutionize our approach and we would be foolhardy to suddenly try some sort of possession based game given our squad, but we absolutely need something new next season 
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 51,148
    Bree and Southampton cannot agree a new contract so he will become a free agent in a few weeks …from site called Lions Central 
    If Bree can’t get what he’s after out of Southampton, then I’m pretty doubtful we’ll be able to match his demands. Would love it if we could but to me at least it seems unlikely. 
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 14,497
    But pre-season or in season?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktCvTfFahHE
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 1,793
    Bree and Southampton cannot agree a new contract so he will become a free agent in a few weeks …from site called Lions Central 
    If Bree can’t get what he’s after out of Southampton, then I’m pretty doubtful we’ll be able to match his demands. Would love it if we could but to me at least it seems unlikely. 
    Not having a dig but with respect, and a lot of people say we can’t afford, but does anyone actually know this for certain, I find it a bit of a throw away comment, we were able to afford a shitload on a bang average goalkeeper wasn’t we? My point how does anyone truly know our level of affordability for certain?.
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,938
    edited June 1
    Bree and Southampton cannot agree a new contract so he will become a free agent in a few weeks …from site called Lions Central 
    If Bree can’t get what he’s after out of Southampton, then I’m pretty doubtful we’ll be able to match his demands. Would love it if we could but to me at least it seems unlikely. 

    Maybe what he wants out of Southampton is to play for Nathan Jones and they have said no to that...
    Here's hoping anyway!
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 5,641
    I think the reason Bree and Southampton haven’t sorted anything yet is there is probably a lot of uncertainty around who is going to be their manager next season. Bree won’t be short of offers from us and other championship clubs, so can probably wait for the situation at Southampton to become clear to see if they will be his best offer 

    I would love us to sign Bree but I think it’s pretty unlikely. The only reason we have a chance is his personal relationship with Jones but when probably extra thousands of pounds a week are at stake I’m not sure that will stand for much 
  • BetterCallSaul
    BetterCallSaul Posts: 386
    Maybe he’s done with Southampton because they’re remorseless cheating shits?
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,684
    NabySarr said:
    I think the reason Bree and Southampton haven’t sorted anything yet is there is probably a lot of uncertainty around who is going to be their manager next season. Bree won’t be short of offers from us and other championship clubs, so can probably wait for the situation at Southampton to become clear to see if they will be his best offer 


    You seem well informed NS. You weren't hiding behind a tree at their training ground?

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  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 51,148
    Sword65pf said:
    Bree and Southampton cannot agree a new contract so he will become a free agent in a few weeks …from site called Lions Central 
    If Bree can’t get what he’s after out of Southampton, then I’m pretty doubtful we’ll be able to match his demands. Would love it if we could but to me at least it seems unlikely. 
    Not having a dig but with respect, and a lot of people say we can’t afford, but does anyone actually know this for certain, I find it a bit of a throw away comment, we were able to afford a shitload on a bang average goalkeeper wasn’t we? My point how does anyone truly know our level of affordability for certain?.
    We reportedly had the third lowest budget in The Championship last season. I seriously doubt we’ve climbed very much higher on that particular league table. I’d say that would put probably 18 at least teams willing and able to outbid us. Of course not every team will want Bree but enough to make us signing him unlikely.
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,593
    I have a vested interest in Joe Walsh as in I am friends with both his parents 

    His mum, to my knowledge gives not a shit about football beyond how well Joe is doing. She does like prosecco though and is a very nice woman 

    His dad is very much NOT a charlton fan but his step mum is very much a charlton fan. 

    I think he has a decent future in the game and am glad QPR put and kept faith in him. The game he had against us was the best I've seen him play however 


  • Diebythesword
    Diebythesword Posts: 805
    Carter said:
    I have a vested interest in Joe Walsh as in I am friends with both his parents 

    His mum, to my knowledge gives not a shit about football beyond how well Joe is doing. She does like prosecco though and is a very nice woman 

    His dad is very much NOT a charlton fan but his step mum is very much a charlton fan. 

    I think he has a decent future in the game and am glad QPR put and kept faith in him. The game he had against us was the best I've seen him play however 


    sounds like dad definitely upgraded then 😉
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 7,552
    If the Bree rumour is true, it might be a case that they are only offering him a year. We might be able to offer 3 for example. Wages will be tricky though
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,523
    Sword65pf said:
    Bree and Southampton cannot agree a new contract so he will become a free agent in a few weeks …from site called Lions Central 
    If Bree can’t get what he’s after out of Southampton, then I’m pretty doubtful we’ll be able to match his demands. Would love it if we could but to me at least it seems unlikely. 
    Not having a dig but with respect, and a lot of people say we can’t afford, but does anyone actually know this for certain, I find it a bit of a throw away comment, we were able to afford a shitload on a bang average goalkeeper wasn’t we? My point how does anyone truly know our level of affordability for certain?.
    Not really, Kaminski is/was expensive relative to the rest of our squad maybe but compared to most established Championship sides he's probably about average or even a bit below in terms of wages for a first choice keeper (which is what he was bought in as.)
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 19,260
    Bree was signed as a Premier League player, has taken one hair cut on relegation, and probably won’t take another 
  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,819
    edited June 1
    Rothko said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    RedJohn said:
    When are the boys back at Sparrows Lane for Pre Season?
    Last season preseason started 8 days (4th July) before our opening game against Dartford so you would assume similar time to that 
    We were involved in the play-offs until late May and at least four were subsequently involved in international matches. We will be better rested and prepared this year.

    Off-season allows players to stay fit by doing long runs (aerobic) as opposed to intense sprints of football training (anaerobic).

    Fitness through the season is more reliant on the former than the latter, allowing oxygen to be better absorbed into the bloodstream. 
    You don't stop doing anaerobic work just because it's the off season. Otherwise you're reducing your ability to operate when deprived of oxygen.

    Footballers need to train throughout the year both in season and off season, with aerobic, anaerobic, and resistance work. This keeps their cardiovascular system, bones, ligaments, tendons and of course muscles strong.

    Failing to maintain any of these will see a higher chance of injury as well as a lack of effectiveness - something no player wants to risk introducing to their game. 
    This has to be explained every summer, the players have targets and programmes, they are sent home with a smart watch and other connect kit to monitor their workload, weight, heart rates, etc, and there is no surprises on the first day back, the medical team will know what players states are when they return 
    If only Peter Garland had that support he'd have been a world beater
  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,819
    Bree and Southampton cannot agree a new contract so he will become a free agent in a few weeks …from site called Lions Central 
    If Bree can’t get what he’s after out of Southampton, then I’m pretty doubtful we’ll be able to match his demands. Would love it if we could but to me at least it seems unlikely. 
    He may find that nobody meets his demands and he has to compromise. But I suspect even then others will be able to meet his lower expectations better than us
  • MartinCAFC
    MartinCAFC Posts: 3,401
    Southampton are also now going to be in there 2nd and final year of parachute payments and also starting with a points deduction. Maybe they're being a bit more cautious about spending high and perhaps looking to cut there cloth a bit and with players contracts expiring it might be easier to just let go some previous high earners like Bree who would have joined on a Premier League contract.
  • Neil01
    Neil01 Posts: 8
    With regards the Bree convo - maybe we can afford if we’re not paying for the likes of coady on loan ??