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  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 5,641
    J BLOCK said:
    Judging by Jones’ comments on articles about being “ruthless”. I would imagine we will offload Kanu. 

    Risk for not doing so and doing so. But I think we should cash in.
    If NJ is being ruthless, he might be thinking of selling much bigger fish. After all he was happy to sell fans favourite Alfie May.

    The issue I have with our strikers, is that none of them to me fit the blueprint of what NJ would look for in a dream striker, which would be active pressing, decent enough pace, physical presence to hold the ball up, and decent finishing. However painful it might be to look back, 2019 Lyle Taylor would be perfect under NJ.

    I think this summer will be very interesting, as all our strikers have question marks about them. All could be kept, but all could also be released/sold if the right offer comes in. Including Kelman, if NJ thinks the money could be used on someone more suitable for his style of play.

    I'd be very surprised if we sold Kelman without losing money on the deal.
    That aside, unless Jones changes his formation and ideas we could have Kane upfront and we'd still struggle to score goals.
    No way we’re selling Kelman. Especially how he improved at the end of the season. 
    We don't know how NJ rates the strikers at our club, other than knowing that we have too many. He sold May, because he had a replacement lined up and got a decent price for him.

    If NJ wanted to buy a quality all round striker for say £4m to £5m, then selling Kelman for £2.5m to £3m (accepting a loss on the deal) might then be an option to help pay for him, especially if we keep Godden and Kanu. Indeed Kanu would be a possible Kelman replacement, as he's a good presser and finisher, if NJ thinks he's good enough for the Championship.
    No way we are selling Kelman unless for silly money. He’s a quality finisher, we should be building our team around him.
    I must watch a different game of football. Yes he scored a wonder goal against Hull, but he’s way off it for me and done very little throughout the season. Not having him at all. 
    Not the biggest fan of Kelman but that Hull game was the first and only time this season we’ve played Kelman as a solo striker with the freedom to move into either channel and just run .

    In a 2 up top system he has to match up 1v1 with a defender with limited space where he gets absolutely bullied without the physical size of a dykes or Leaburn or Godden’s elite movement to get free in such tight areas so think we just won’t ever get the best out of him here. 

    Considering we want Dykes and Godden back it’s clear NJ still wants to play 2 up top which is a shame. Kelman will still be here because we’ve commited so much money into him and we won’t get that back but Jones clearly isn’t keen on him 
    He was basically playing up top on his own at the start of the season when we had TC and were still playing our hybrid 3-5-2/4-2-3-1. He struggled then but the difference in the Hull game was the way he physically put himself about a lot better than he had all season. He was a real handful running the channels and battling the centre backs

    Hopefully with a full pre-season he is in better shape physically so he can run more and battle defenders more next season, if he does that he will be the main man but if he doesn’t then Jones is never going to be a huge fan 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 9,832
    Think it's Kelman and AN Other to start upfront for the start of the season , whether that's Leaburn or a new signing obviously remains to be seen. Just need to get the service right behind them. 
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 5,641
    MarcusH26 said:
    Think it's Kelman and AN Other to start upfront for the start of the season , whether that's Leaburn or a new signing obviously remains to be seen. Just need to get the service right behind them. 
    If TC stays and signs a new contract he will most likely be starting. I’d like to see TC and Kelman again like we started last season
  • Gammon
    Gammon Posts: 344
    How much will the world cup affect the timings of signings, i think it has been a bit of a knock on effect in thing up some of the effective chains in sales
  • Danny Addick
    Danny Addick Posts: 4,119
    J BLOCK said:
    Judging by Jones’ comments on articles about being “ruthless”. I would imagine we will offload Kanu. 

    Risk for not doing so and doing so. But I think we should cash in.
    If NJ is being ruthless, he might be thinking of selling much bigger fish. After all he was happy to sell fans favourite Alfie May.

    The issue I have with our strikers, is that none of them to me fit the blueprint of what NJ would look for in a dream striker, which would be active pressing, decent enough pace, physical presence to hold the ball up, and decent finishing. However painful it might be to look back, 2019 Lyle Taylor would be perfect under NJ.

    I think this summer will be very interesting, as all our strikers have question marks about them. All could be kept, but all could also be released/sold if the right offer comes in. Including Kelman, if NJ thinks the money could be used on someone more suitable for his style of play.

    I'd be very surprised if we sold Kelman without losing money on the deal.
    That aside, unless Jones changes his formation and ideas we could have Kane upfront and we'd still struggle to score goals.
    No way we’re selling Kelman. Especially how he improved at the end of the season. 
    We don't know how NJ rates the strikers at our club, other than knowing that we have too many. He sold May, because he had a replacement lined up and got a decent price for him.

    If NJ wanted to buy a quality all round striker for say £4m to £5m, then selling Kelman for £2.5m to £3m (accepting a loss on the deal) might then be an option to help pay for him, especially if we keep Godden and Kanu. Indeed Kanu would be a possible Kelman replacement, as he's a good presser and finisher, if NJ thinks he's good enough for the Championship.
    No way we are selling Kelman unless for silly money. He’s a quality finisher, we should be building our team around him.
    I must watch a different game of football. Yes he scored a wonder goal against Hull, but he’s way off it for me and done very little throughout the season. Not having him at all. 
    Such a poor take, in my opinion 
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 5,641
    If you’re looking to sell Kelman, our top scoring striker last season in his first proper championship season, you need to give your head a wobble. He’s only going to get better. 
    In fairness half the posters on here were saying we should sell our top goalscorer a few weeks ago
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,523
    NabySarr said:
    J BLOCK said:
    Judging by Jones’ comments on articles about being “ruthless”. I would imagine we will offload Kanu. 

    Risk for not doing so and doing so. But I think we should cash in.
    If NJ is being ruthless, he might be thinking of selling much bigger fish. After all he was happy to sell fans favourite Alfie May.

    The issue I have with our strikers, is that none of them to me fit the blueprint of what NJ would look for in a dream striker, which would be active pressing, decent enough pace, physical presence to hold the ball up, and decent finishing. However painful it might be to look back, 2019 Lyle Taylor would be perfect under NJ.

    I think this summer will be very interesting, as all our strikers have question marks about them. All could be kept, but all could also be released/sold if the right offer comes in. Including Kelman, if NJ thinks the money could be used on someone more suitable for his style of play.

    I'd be very surprised if we sold Kelman without losing money on the deal.
    That aside, unless Jones changes his formation and ideas we could have Kane upfront and we'd still struggle to score goals.
    No way we’re selling Kelman. Especially how he improved at the end of the season. 
    We don't know how NJ rates the strikers at our club, other than knowing that we have too many. He sold May, because he had a replacement lined up and got a decent price for him.

    If NJ wanted to buy a quality all round striker for say £4m to £5m, then selling Kelman for £2.5m to £3m (accepting a loss on the deal) might then be an option to help pay for him, especially if we keep Godden and Kanu. Indeed Kanu would be a possible Kelman replacement, as he's a good presser and finisher, if NJ thinks he's good enough for the Championship.
    No way we are selling Kelman unless for silly money. He’s a quality finisher, we should be building our team around him.
    I must watch a different game of football. Yes he scored a wonder goal against Hull, but he’s way off it for me and done very little throughout the season. Not having him at all. 
    Not the biggest fan of Kelman but that Hull game was the first and only time this season we’ve played Kelman as a solo striker with the freedom to move into either channel and just run .

    In a 2 up top system he has to match up 1v1 with a defender with limited space where he gets absolutely bullied without the physical size of a dykes or Leaburn or Godden’s elite movement to get free in such tight areas so think we just won’t ever get the best out of him here. 

    Considering we want Dykes and Godden back it’s clear NJ still wants to play 2 up top which is a shame. Kelman will still be here because we’ve commited so much money into him and we won’t get that back but Jones clearly isn’t keen on him 
    He was basically playing up top on his own at the start of the season when we had TC and were still playing our hybrid 3-5-2/4-2-3-1. He struggled then but the difference in the Hull game was the way he physically put himself about a lot better than he had all season. He was a real handful running the channels and battling the centre backs

    Hopefully with a full pre-season he is in better shape physically so he can run more and battle defenders more next season, if he does that he will be the main man but if he doesn’t then Jones is never going to be a huge fan 
    I've said before that Jones bombed out Apter and Olaofe without much qualms but kept Kelman on so he clearly sees something in him. Whether that's "main striker" potential or just "useful squad option" is not clear yet but maybe this summer business will give more of an idea there.
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 14,427
    Redhenry said:
    Don't know if it's been mentioned, but selling Kanu is pure profit for PSR rules.
    If we are spending more than last year I would be selling Kanu, if we can get close to a mill. 
    The standard in League 2 is miles away from Champ, we need at least 4/5 upgrades on last seasons starting eleven...
    Literally this, we wasted millions last year and almost everyone will have to be loaned out until contracts expire. We dont have too many saleable assest and something has to give. 


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  • king addick
    king addick Posts: 4,002
    Kelman showed at times during the season he can make the difference. By his own admission he could have been more consistent but he is a talent for sure. I fully expect him to be leading the line from the off next season.
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 11,093
    NabySarr said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    Think it's Kelman and AN Other to start upfront for the start of the season , whether that's Leaburn or a new signing obviously remains to be seen. Just need to get the service right behind them. 
    If TC stays and signs a new contract he will most likely be starting. I’d like to see TC and Kelman again like we started last season
    Their early season partnership created the grand total of 0 goals
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 5,641
    NabySarr said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    Think it's Kelman and AN Other to start upfront for the start of the season , whether that's Leaburn or a new signing obviously remains to be seen. Just need to get the service right behind them. 
    If TC stays and signs a new contract he will most likely be starting. I’d like to see TC and Kelman again like we started last season
    Their early season partnership created the grand total of 0 goals
    It was also our best period of the season, and the season before we played our best football with a similar set up. I don’t care how many goals they score as long as the team does well that works for me 

    Kelman with a full pre-season, TC after finally having a bit of a break. Could both make big strides next season, just need to get TC a new contract 
  • shine166 said:
    Redhenry said:
    Don't know if it's been mentioned, but selling Kanu is pure profit for PSR rules.
    If we are spending more than last year I would be selling Kanu, if we can get close to a mill. 
    The standard in League 2 is miles away from Champ, we need at least 4/5 upgrades on last seasons starting eleven...
    Literally this, we wasted millions last year and almost everyone will have to be loaned out until contracts expire. We dont have too many saleable assest and something has to give. 

    So if Jones is going to be ruthless to keep us in the division, he could possibly sell Kanu, Leaburn and TC to help with the PSR and maybe go for broke with championship quality and experience............ just saying.....?
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,675
    fenaddick said:
    Judging by Jones’ comments on articles about being “ruthless”. I would imagine we will offload Kanu. 

    Risk for not doing so and doing so. But I think we should cash in.
    If NJ is being ruthless, he might be thinking of selling much bigger fish. After all he was happy to sell fans favourite Alfie May.

    The issue I have with our strikers, is that none of them to me fit the blueprint of what NJ would look for in a dream striker, which would be active pressing, decent enough pace, physical presence to hold the ball up, and decent finishing. However painful it might be to look back, 2019 Lyle Taylor would be perfect under NJ.

    I think this summer will be very interesting, as all our strikers have question marks about them. All could be kept, but all could also be released/sold if the right offer comes in. Including Kelman, if NJ thinks the money could be used on someone more suitable for his style of play.

    I'd be very surprised if we sold Kelman without losing money on the deal.
    That aside, unless Jones changes his formation and ideas we could have Kane upfront and we'd still struggle to score goals.
    No way we’re selling Kelman. Especially how he improved at the end of the season. 
    We don't know how NJ rates the strikers at our club, other than knowing that we have too many. He sold May, because he had a replacement lined up and got a decent price for him.

    If NJ wanted to buy a quality all round striker for say £4m to £5m, then selling Kelman for £2.5m to £3m (accepting a loss on the deal) might then be an option to help pay for him, especially if we keep Godden and Kanu. Indeed Kanu would be a possible Kelman replacement, as he's a good presser and finisher, if NJ thinks he's good enough for the Championship.
    Excuse my poor memory but who was the replacement we had lined up for Alfie May. Surely we're not talking about the 'gasman' ? He is one of the worst 'strikers' I've ever seen & if NJ thinks he was a decent replacement then no wonder we signed so many duds last summer.
    It was Godden 
    Ah of course  :D
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 5,641
    shine166 said:
    Redhenry said:
    Don't know if it's been mentioned, but selling Kanu is pure profit for PSR rules.
    If we are spending more than last year I would be selling Kanu, if we can get close to a mill. 
    The standard in League 2 is miles away from Champ, we need at least 4/5 upgrades on last seasons starting eleven...
    Literally this, we wasted millions last year and almost everyone will have to be loaned out until contracts expire. We dont have too many saleable assest and something has to give. 

    So if Jones is going to be ruthless to keep us in the division, he could possibly sell Kanu, Leaburn and TC to help with the PSR and maybe go for broke with championship quality and experience............ just saying.....?
    If you sold those 3 players you would probably generate enough money for 1 proven championship quality player. If you keep them and develop them you could end up with more than 1 championship quality player 
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,675
    Judging by Jones’ comments on articles about being “ruthless”. I would imagine we will offload Kanu. 

    Risk for not doing so and doing so. But I think we should cash in.
    If NJ is being ruthless, he might be thinking of selling much bigger fish. After all he was happy to sell fans favourite Alfie May.

    The issue I have with our strikers, is that none of them to me fit the blueprint of what NJ would look for in a dream striker, which would be active pressing, decent enough pace, physical presence to hold the ball up, and decent finishing. However painful it might be to look back, 2019 Lyle Taylor would be perfect under NJ.

    I think this summer will be very interesting, as all our strikers have question marks about them. All could be kept, but all could also be released/sold if the right offer comes in. Including Kelman, if NJ thinks the money could be used on someone more suitable for his style of play.

    I'd be very surprised if we sold Kelman without losing money on the deal.
    That aside, unless Jones changes his formation and ideas we could have Kane upfront and we'd still struggle to score goals.
    No way we’re selling Kelman. Especially how he improved at the end of the season. 
    We don't know how NJ rates the strikers at our club, other than knowing that we have too many. He sold May, because he had a replacement lined up and got a decent price for him.

    If NJ wanted to buy a quality all round striker for say £4m to £5m, then selling Kelman for £2.5m to £3m (accepting a loss on the deal) might then be an option to help pay for him, especially if we keep Godden and Kanu. Indeed Kanu would be a possible Kelman replacement, as he's a good presser and finisher, if NJ thinks he's good enough for the Championship.

    See we are going down to the silly season of the summer break put it down to the sun we had last week .. sell Kelman and keep Godden  and Kanu … come on seriously lol lol 

    Godden been offered a year but he has two offers on the table that are 2 year deals !!! 

    Where do you get this crap from...
    Apparently he has contacts at the Plymouth Herald
  • MrBurns
    MrBurns Posts: 1,822
    Do we know how much we're selling Kelman for? 
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 26,584
    Judging by Jones’ comments on articles about being “ruthless”. I would imagine we will offload Kanu. 

    Risk for not doing so and doing so. But I think we should cash in.
    If NJ is being ruthless, he might be thinking of selling much bigger fish. After all he was happy to sell fans favourite Alfie May.

    The issue I have with our strikers, is that none of them to me fit the blueprint of what NJ would look for in a dream striker, which would be active pressing, decent enough pace, physical presence to hold the ball up, and decent finishing. However painful it might be to look back, 2019 Lyle Taylor would be perfect under NJ.

    I think this summer will be very interesting, as all our strikers have question marks about them. All could be kept, but all could also be released/sold if the right offer comes in. Including Kelman, if NJ thinks the money could be used on someone more suitable for his style of play.

    I'd be very surprised if we sold Kelman without losing money on the deal.
    That aside, unless Jones changes his formation and ideas we could have Kane upfront and we'd still struggle to score goals.
    No way we’re selling Kelman. Especially how he improved at the end of the season. 
    We don't know how NJ rates the strikers at our club, other than knowing that we have too many. He sold May, because he had a replacement lined up and got a decent price for him.

    If NJ wanted to buy a quality all round striker for say £4m to £5m, then selling Kelman for £2.5m to £3m (accepting a loss on the deal) might then be an option to help pay for him, especially if we keep Godden and Kanu. Indeed Kanu would be a possible Kelman replacement, as he's a good presser and finisher, if NJ thinks he's good enough for the Championship.

    See we are going down to the silly season of the summer break put it down to the sun we had last week .. sell Kelman and keep Godden  and Kanu … come on seriously lol lol 

    Godden been offered a year but he has two offers on the table that are 2 year deals !!! 

    Where do you get this crap from...
    Apparently he has contacts at the Plymouth Herald
    Let's just hope his contract is up soon then for all our sakes...😉
  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 6,341
    I hate the summer transfer window ! The lack of transfer gossip always brings the lunatics out lol

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  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 2,129
    Redhenry said:
    Don't know if it's been mentioned, but selling Kanu is pure profit for PSR rules.
    If we are spending more than last year I would be selling Kanu, if we can get close to a mill. 
    The standard in League 2 is miles away from Champ, we need at least 4/5 upgrades on last seasons starting eleven...
    There’s no such thing as pure profit for the rules. Rules are 85% revenue on transfer fees + Wages + additional 33M owner funds over 3 years (15M 1 year max).

    Basically selling Kanu would free up let’s say for argument sake goes for 1M + minimal wages which tbh won’t go very far 
  • mathew_davey
    mathew_davey Posts: 46
    edited 2:36PM
    For me I don't think we need too much investment to get us to mid table / play off push our strike force is actually very decent for this level. The problem is our supply chain to them. I wouldn't be upset to see just have a strike force of kelman/mbick/leeburn/KANU next season with godden playing a mentor role.

    We need 2/3 top quality midfielders. Competition for Edwards. Then on the left get in fevier/ plus top quality left back. 

    Attacking midfielders we are ok as well. Apart of the problem is we have to play so cautiously and compact the season past that they haven't really been able to express themselves properly.

    It would then allow us to play 5/3/2  4/3/3 4/4/2, which unless your Southampton you won't know how we will set up on the day.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 51,148
    For me I don't think we need too much investment to get us to mid table / play off push our strike force is actually very decent for this level. The problem is our supply chain to them. I wouldn't be upset to see just have a strike force of kelman/mbick/leeburn/KANU next season with golden playing a mentor role.

    We need 2/3 top quality midfielders. Competition for Edwards. Then on the left get in fevier/ plus top quality left back. 

    Attacking midfielders we are ok as well. Apart of the problem is we have to play so cautiously and compact the season past that they haven't really been able to express themselves properly.

    It would then allow us to play 5/3/2  4/3/3 4/4/2, which unless your Southampton you won't know how we will set up on the day.
    Optimistic, I’ll give you that.
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 14,497
    I wonder how many players there are in this division that would qualify as a 'proven Championship striker'. The thing about proven strikers at a level is they generally go on to something better. Viktor Gyokeres was a proven Championship striker. So were Ollie Watkins and Ivan Toney; they're not there anymore. Vipotnik had a good season, you might say he is now or he will be if he has another good season. Oli McBurnie might be one but he'll be playing Premier League next season. Once we've got a list of these proven Championship strikers I wonder how many would be within our reach and not playing at teams way above us paying much more. A team at our level doesn't sign proven Championship strikers, we hope to create them and then either go up with them or move them on for a profit. If people think selling Kanu will contribute to us getting a proven Championship striker they'll need to sell him about 10 times
  • elbiglad
    elbiglad Posts: 245
    For me I don't think we need too much investment to get us to mid table / play off push our strike force is actually very decent for this level. The problem is our supply chain to them. I wouldn't be upset to see just have a strike force of kelman/mbick/leeburn/KANU next season with golden playing a mentor role.

    We need 2/3 top quality midfielders. Competition for Edwards. Then on the left get in fevier/ plus top quality left back. 

    Attacking midfielders we are ok as well. Apart of the problem is we have to play so cautiously and compact the season past that they haven't really been able to express themselves properly.

    It would then allow us to play 5/3/2  4/3/3 4/4/2, which unless your Southampton you won't know how we will set up on the day.
    I agree with your assessment if we are talking about the squad we had at the end of the year. We finished seven points off 13th and we had two really poor, barren runs during the season; one driven by injuries at a tough time in the schedule, and the other I will put down to complacency and fatigue at the end of the year. It's realistic to think that with a few better players we could easily be fighting for mid table next year.

    Unfortunately, we lose quite a few starters that need replacing: ST - Dykes, RWB - Clarke, LWB - Chambers, CDM - Coady and a versatile utility option in Fevrier. So that means it can't just be about improving the midfield this summer, although I do agree it is the area we can improve most. It's never as simple as it may seem, either. We will probably lose players that are in and around the first team, and perhaps a starting player unexpectedly who will also need to be replaced. I would love us to be able to consolidate and add quality to this group rather than experience another window with huge turnover, but it just doesn't feel realistic.

    Unlike others, I think that our transfer business under Jones and this regime has been decent when factoring in the budget. I reckon we've had a slightly above 50% hit rate, which is par for the course. The one concern is that the eye for attacking talent has been slightly weaker than when recruiting for defensive positions, but I don't necessarily think that will be an area we focus on this summer. 
  • Judging by Jones’ comments on articles about being “ruthless”. I would imagine we will offload Kanu. 

    Risk for not doing so and doing so. But I think we should cash in.
    If NJ is being ruthless, he might be thinking of selling much bigger fish. After all he was happy to sell fans favourite Alfie May.

    The issue I have with our strikers, is that none of them to me fit the blueprint of what NJ would look for in a dream striker, which would be active pressing, decent enough pace, physical presence to hold the ball up, and decent finishing. However painful it might be to look back, 2019 Lyle Taylor would be perfect under NJ.

    I think this summer will be very interesting, as all our strikers have question marks about them. All could be kept, but all could also be released/sold if the right offer comes in. Including Kelman, if NJ thinks the money could be used on someone more suitable for his style of play.

    I'd be very surprised if we sold Kelman without losing money on the deal.
    That aside, unless Jones changes his formation and ideas we could have Kane upfront and we'd still struggle to score goals.
    No way we’re selling Kelman. Especially how he improved at the end of the season. 
    We don't know how NJ rates the strikers at our club, other than knowing that we have too many. He sold May, because he had a replacement lined up and got a decent price for him.

    If NJ wanted to buy a quality all round striker for say £4m to £5m, then selling Kelman for £2.5m to £3m (accepting a loss on the deal) might then be an option to help pay for him, especially if we keep Godden and Kanu. Indeed Kanu would be a possible Kelman replacement, as he's a good presser and finisher, if NJ thinks he's good enough for the Championship.
    Sorry, Kanu is nowhere near as good a finisher as Kelman who has shown he can score lots of goals in league 1 and if it wasn't for injury and sometimes getting dropped for no apparent reason he would have scored more goals than he did in the Championship last season.
    With regards to being a better presser in my view we always looked worse at pressing from the front when he was substituted.
    Kelman is 24.

    At Kanu's age, 21, he was at Gillingham on loan in lg 1 then Orient in lg 2.

    It wasn't until 24/25 season that he caught fire and got double figures.

    Kanu may never be as good as CK but at the moment DK is ahead of where CK was at the same stage.

    Same goes for Godden but we know Godden has gone on to have a good career.
    Kelman was at Orient in league one 
  • covered_end_junior
    covered_end_junior Posts: 4,643
    Judging by Jones’ comments on articles about being “ruthless”. I would imagine we will offload Kanu. 

    Risk for not doing so and doing so. But I think we should cash in.
    If NJ is being ruthless, he might be thinking of selling much bigger fish. After all he was happy to sell fans favourite Alfie May.

    The issue I have with our strikers, is that none of them to me fit the blueprint of what NJ would look for in a dream striker, which would be active pressing, decent enough pace, physical presence to hold the ball up, and decent finishing. However painful it might be to look back, 2019 Lyle Taylor would be perfect under NJ.

    I think this summer will be very interesting, as all our strikers have question marks about them. All could be kept, but all could also be released/sold if the right offer comes in. Including Kelman, if NJ thinks the money could be used on someone more suitable for his style of play.

    I'd be very surprised if we sold Kelman without losing money on the deal.
    That aside, unless Jones changes his formation and ideas we could have Kane upfront and we'd still struggle to score goals.
    No way we’re selling Kelman. Especially how he improved at the end of the season. 
    We don't know how NJ rates the strikers at our club, other than knowing that we have too many. He sold May, because he had a replacement lined up and got a decent price for him.

    If NJ wanted to buy a quality all round striker for say £4m to £5m, then selling Kelman for £2.5m to £3m (accepting a loss on the deal) might then be an option to help pay for him, especially if we keep Godden and Kanu. Indeed Kanu would be a possible Kelman replacement, as he's a good presser and finisher, if NJ thinks he's good enough for the Championship.
    Sorry, Kanu is nowhere near as good a finisher as Kelman who has shown he can score lots of goals in league 1 and if it wasn't for injury and sometimes getting dropped for no apparent reason he would have scored more goals than he did in the Championship last season.
    With regards to being a better presser in my view we always looked worse at pressing from the front when he was substituted.
    Kelman is 24.

    At Kanu's age, 21, he was at Gillingham on loan in lg 1 then Orient in lg 2.

    It wasn't until 24/25 season that he caught fire and got double figures.

    Kanu may never be as good as CK but at the moment DK is ahead of where CK was at the same stage.

    Same goes for Godden but we know Godden has gone on to have a good career.
    Kelman was at Orient in league one 

    He had 2 loans with them, one in league 2 and another in league 1. 
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,523
    I wonder how many players there are in this division that would qualify as a 'proven Championship striker'. The thing about proven strikers at a level is they generally go on to something better. Viktor Gyokeres was a proven Championship striker. So were Ollie Watkins and Ivan Toney; they're not there anymore. Vipotnik had a good season, you might say he is now or he will be if he has another good season. Oli McBurnie might be one but he'll be playing Premier League next season. Once we've got a list of these proven Championship strikers I wonder how many would be within our reach and not playing at teams way above us paying much more. A team at our level doesn't sign proven Championship strikers, we hope to create them and then either go up with them or move them on for a profit. If people think selling Kanu will contribute to us getting a proven Championship striker they'll need to sell him about 10 times
    Also, look at Vipotnik, last seasons high scorer with 23 but the season before he got 7. Did he just suddenly become "proven" between the two seasons, seems improbable. 
    For that matter, Kelman got 7 for us, is he suddenly going to "prove" and get 20+? Seems unlikely too.

    Strikers are always a gamble, we're much better off looking holistically (what else do they bring, what are there strengths in general) rather than just goal records - that will get you a Kermorgant instead of a McCleod.
  • Judging by Jones’ comments on articles about being “ruthless”. I would imagine we will offload Kanu. 

    Risk for not doing so and doing so. But I think we should cash in.
    If NJ is being ruthless, he might be thinking of selling much bigger fish. After all he was happy to sell fans favourite Alfie May.

    The issue I have with our strikers, is that none of them to me fit the blueprint of what NJ would look for in a dream striker, which would be active pressing, decent enough pace, physical presence to hold the ball up, and decent finishing. However painful it might be to look back, 2019 Lyle Taylor would be perfect under NJ.

    I think this summer will be very interesting, as all our strikers have question marks about them. All could be kept, but all could also be released/sold if the right offer comes in. Including Kelman, if NJ thinks the money could be used on someone more suitable for his style of play.

    I'd be very surprised if we sold Kelman without losing money on the deal.
    That aside, unless Jones changes his formation and ideas we could have Kane upfront and we'd still struggle to score goals.
    No way we’re selling Kelman. Especially how he improved at the end of the season. 
    We don't know how NJ rates the strikers at our club, other than knowing that we have too many. He sold May, because he had a replacement lined up and got a decent price for him.

    If NJ wanted to buy a quality all round striker for say £4m to £5m, then selling Kelman for £2.5m to £3m (accepting a loss on the deal) might then be an option to help pay for him, especially if we keep Godden and Kanu. Indeed Kanu would be a possible Kelman replacement, as he's a good presser and finisher, if NJ thinks he's good enough for the Championship.
    Sorry, Kanu is nowhere near as good a finisher as Kelman who has shown he can score lots of goals in league 1 and if it wasn't for injury and sometimes getting dropped for no apparent reason he would have scored more goals than he did in the Championship last season.
    With regards to being a better presser in my view we always looked worse at pressing from the front when he was substituted.
    Kelman is 24.

    At Kanu's age, 21, he was at Gillingham on loan in lg 1 then Orient in lg 2.

    It wasn't until 24/25 season that he caught fire and got double figures.

    Kanu may never be as good as CK but at the moment DK is ahead of where CK was at the same stage.

    Same goes for Godden but we know Godden has gone on to have a good career.
    Kelman was at Orient in league one 

    He had 2 loans with them, one in league 2 and another in league 1. 
    Sorry yes , so he did my apologies 
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 1,793
    NabySarr said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    Think it's Kelman and AN Other to start upfront for the start of the season , whether that's Leaburn or a new signing obviously remains to be seen. Just need to get the service right behind them. 
    If TC stays and signs a new contract he will most likely be starting. I’d like to see TC and Kelman again like we started last season
    So we are still crow barring TC in as a forward, have we not learnt that lesson?, he is a winger, don’t care about the it’s not how we play excuse, it should be Kelman and new signing( hopefully) and if that means TC sits on the bench then so be it, he is a winger.