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I post when I think I have something useful to say about the topic. If posting links to facts comes across as patronising I apologise. I've always thought that to justify a position, you need to have the facts.blackpool72 said:
All I will say is this.cantersaddick said:What's weird is every time this happens CE digs out ME14 and brings up the unrelated covid discussions from multiple years ago, even though he can see she's not started any of these conversations. Shes only replied to the 2 trolls who try to be controversial for their own feelings of self importance and who are unhappy the thread has been perfectly on track for 2 days.
ME 14 is all over certain threads whether it's climate change, Covid , traffic congestion and numerous other subjects.
She never posts or hardly ever posts on football threads and this is a Charlton forum after all.
I don't disagree with a lot of what she posts but just quoting various experts on various subjects comes across a little patronising at times.
I'm sorry I don't post on other threads I didn't think it was compulsory.0 -
It's not compulsory but this is a Charlton forum after all.ME14addick said:
I post when I think I have something useful to say about the topic. If posting links to facts comes across as patronising I apologise. I've always thought that to justify a position, you need to have the facts.blackpool72 said:
All I will say is this.cantersaddick said:What's weird is every time this happens CE digs out ME14 and brings up the unrelated covid discussions from multiple years ago, even though he can see she's not started any of these conversations. Shes only replied to the 2 trolls who try to be controversial for their own feelings of self importance and who are unhappy the thread has been perfectly on track for 2 days.
ME 14 is all over certain threads whether it's climate change, Covid , traffic congestion and numerous other subjects.
She never posts or hardly ever posts on football threads and this is a Charlton forum after all.
I don't disagree with a lot of what she posts but just quoting various experts on various subjects comes across a little patronising at times.
I'm sorry I don't post on other threads I didn't think it was compulsory.
Anyway this is my last post on here.
Enjoy the weather.4 -
Just bra and pants mateR0TW said:
Fuck sake, that’s an image I am struggling with mate.Gribbo said:
I would, but I'm currently on the sofa in me undercrackers with the air con on full bastSuedeAdidas said:
@Gribbo will look into it.FirenzeAddick said:For all of the anger on this thread it amounts to "man shouts at cloud". Both of these things are true:1. Global warming is real, and it is happening.2. We have never been more aware about man's impact on this and we are addressing it.Shouting and putting up graphs doesn't change a thing. We each have an individual responsibility to do the right thing and make conscious choices which don't damage the planet on a daily basis.... simple as that. Go about your lives with awareness and enjoy yourself!Unless you have the ability to personally lobby China, the US and India, then sadly your righteous anger is wasted.Please tell me you haven’t opted for the string vest combo.2 -
Have committed to ignoring your obvious tolling but since you've resorted to Tu Quoque arguments (shows character development from the slippery slope fallacy youbusually rely on) I will reply this once.TD_Addick said:
You’re having a laugh 😆 here you are going on about climate change but wizzing off on long distance flights to Africa and the Caribbean, flooring it down to camber sands, thought you lot lived in the woods and went to centre parks for holidays. By the sounds of it your air miles have caused this heatwave shame on youcantersaddick said:Escaped London this afternoon. Finished early and raced down to the coast to Camber Sands. Was about 5 degrees colder and properly windy. Which made it feel actually cool. The sea though was lovely, like getting into a Bath, I've genuinely never felt the sea like it in the UK. Water temperature was warmer than I've felt in Africa and the Caribbean!
"You drive and fly too" isn't actually the argument you think it is. Oh wow, you caught me. I drove to the coast to escape the heat and apparently that means climate change isn't real anymore — case closed! Except, fun fact: the entire concept of the "personal carbon footprint" was literally invented by BP's PR agency in the early 2000s specifically to make you blame yourself instead of them. It's one of the most successful propaganda campaigns in history, and you're out here doing their marketing for free. Meanwhile, a single billionaire's superyacht emits more CO₂ in a year than 40 average households, private jet owners account for a wildly disproportionate share of aviation emissions, and the top 1% emit roughly twice as much carbon as the bottom 50% of humanity combined. But sure, let's talk about my commute. The thing is — and this is the part fossil fuel companies are desperately hoping you miss — we live in a system. Roads exist because governments built them for cars. Trains don't go everywhere. Electric vehicles cost more than many people earn in a year. You don't get to opt out of a fossil-fuel-dependent infrastructure just by having strong opinions about it. Asking individuals to fix a systemic crisis through personal choice is like blaming people for getting wet because they don't build their own umbrellas. The problem isn't your carbon footprint. The problem is who designed the floor.
I don't have to justify myself to you but I will defend my character and it is actually something I have had to wrestle with. Obviously I minimise wherever possible and use public transport as much as I can. I have my reasons for any long haul trips including a terminally ill family member in Afica who is unable to travel. When I do have to fly I always donate more than the price of the ticket to local charities fighting the effects of climate change locally. And always extend my trip to add some volunteering with these charities. The last time I had to do long haul I spent 5 days after seeing family volunteering with a coral restoration charity fighting the effects of bleaching on coral reefs because of climate change as well as buying a whole new set of scuba gear for them (something I don't have myself as a diver).
I will say, travel to these parts of the world really opens your eyes to the very real impacts of climate change and the very real ways brings it affects the poorest people in the world the worst despite them having played no part in causing. In that respect I would absolutely encourage you to travel and properly travel and meet people. I've not met anyone who it hasn't changed.
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Have you personally spoken to them all?ME14addick said:1 -
Umm you mentioned the covid threads in your post on this page at 4:44pm which directly replied to numerous elements of the post by ME14 directly above it.Covered End said:
In the interests of factual correctness, I didn't mention ME14 in my original post.cantersaddick said:What's weird is every time this happens CE digs out ME14 and brings up the unrelated covid discussions from multiple years ago, even though he can see she's not started any of these conversations. Shes only replied to the 2 trolls who try to be controversial for their own feelings of self importance and who are unhappy the thread has been perfectly on track for 2 days.
She responded to my post, assuming that I was referring to her, which I wasn't specifically.
I replied to her, when she quoted my post.
When was the last time I brought up Covid related to ME14?
Look it up and post it thanks.
I'll be very surprised if it was this year.
Just because you didn't hit the quote button doesn't mean you weren't replying to her. You clearly were.1 -
Idiotic anti-intellectualism at its finest.LargeAddick said:
Have you personally spoken to them all?ME14addick said:3 -
I'm gonna have a little self-pity rant.
Spare a thought for us HGV drivers that spend all week sleeping in our trucks, making sure essential goods are being delivered up & down the country. Most trucks these days have air con, although speaking to various drivers at my company, many don't work. The problem is that (like your car), it only works when the engine is running. Fitting an air con unit that runs independently is a cost most haulage companies are not willing to pay for. Some drivers opt for simply leaving their engine running all night, which not only is bad for the air quality, but also noise pollution, so you have no choice but to close all windows. Many trucks (like mine) are fitted with an engine cut-out, that switches it off after a few minutes if there's no driver input (brake or accelorator), so leaving it running isn't even an option. One option is to find a lay by with no other trucks, rather than a truck stop, but most companies won't allow us to park in the middle of nowhere if we have a loaded trailer, also, it's not a good idea to park in an unsecure place and have your windows open, so we just lay in our boxes with fans blowing on us, trying to grab at least a couple of hours sleep, before waking up and having the company push you to do a 15hr shift all over again.
It's not a job I'd recommend to any youngsters thinking about doing. I knew I should've paid more attention at school
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blackpool72 said:
All I will say is this.cantersaddick said:What's weird is every time this happens CE digs out ME14 and brings up the unrelated covid discussions from multiple years ago, even though he can see she's not started any of these conversations. Shes only replied to the 2 trolls who try to be controversial for their own feelings of self importance and who are unhappy the thread has been perfectly on track for 2 days.
ME 14 is all over certain threads whether it's climate change, Covid , traffic congestion and numerous other subjects.
She never posts or hardly ever posts on football threads and this is a Charlton forum after all.
I don't disagree with a lot of what she posts but just quoting various experts on various subjects comes across a little patronising at times.
Took the words out of my mouth. A few posters love these types of threads and will be on them 24/7 writing out an essay of a post. You will never see them on a pre or post match thread. Strange.4 -
Think most of Ireland don’t believe in climate change.
It used to piss it down during my summer holidays as a kid and it’s still pissing down in the summers now I live here.
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Massive solidarity with HGV drivers. Cousins husband does it and it sounds awful at times. Not paid enough but essential to keep the world movingtangoflash said:I'm gonna have a little self-pity rant.
Spare a thought for us HGV drivers that spend all week sleeping in our trucks, making sure essential goods are being delivered up & down the country. Most trucks these days have air con, although speaking to various drivers at my company, many don't work. The problem is that (like your car), it only works when the engine is running. Fitting an air con unit that runs independently is a cost most haulage companies are not willing to pay for. Some drivers opt for simply leaving their engine running all night, which not only is bad for the air quality, but also noise pollution, so you have no choice but to close all windows. Many trucks (like mine) are fitted with an engine cut-out, that switches it off after a few minutes if there's no driver input (brake or accelorator), so leaving it running isn't even an option. One option is to find a lay by with no other trucks, rather than a truck stop, but most companies won't allow us to park in the middle of nowhere if we have a loaded trailer, also, it's not a good idea to park in an unsecure place and have your windows open, so we just lay in our boxes with fans blowing on us, trying to grab at least a couple of hours sleep, before waking up and having the company push you to do a 15hr shift all over again.
It's not a job I'd recommend to any youngsters thinking about doing. I knew I should've paid more attention at school 1 -
It doesn't need me to speak to them, there is plenty of evidence from respected organisations across the world.LargeAddick said:
Have you personally spoken to them all?ME14addick said:
I could post you many links but you wouldn't bother to read them, however you might belive an organisation like NASAMultiple studies and extensive data from NASA Science (.gov) show that 97% to 99% of actively publishing climate scientists agree that humans are the primary cause of global warming.Several key studies and endorsements verify this consensus:- The 2013 Study: A landmark review of over 11,000 peer-reviewed climate science abstracts found that 97% of the papers taking a position on the cause of climate change agreed that it is man-made. [1, 2]
- The 2021 Update: A comprehensive 2021 review of the literature pushed that consensus figure even higher, to greater than 99%. [1, 2]
- Institutional Backing: Every major scientific institution in the world—including the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (UN IPCC)—endorses this consensus. [1, 2]
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Don't make veiled comments like that. Name names and let them defend themselves. For one I've seen ME on match threads last season.O-Randy-Hunt said:blackpool72 said:
All I will say is this.cantersaddick said:What's weird is every time this happens CE digs out ME14 and brings up the unrelated covid discussions from multiple years ago, even though he can see she's not started any of these conversations. Shes only replied to the 2 trolls who try to be controversial for their own feelings of self importance and who are unhappy the thread has been perfectly on track for 2 days.
ME 14 is all over certain threads whether it's climate change, Covid , traffic congestion and numerous other subjects.
She never posts or hardly ever posts on football threads and this is a Charlton forum after all.
I don't disagree with a lot of what she posts but just quoting various experts on various subjects comes across a little patronising at times.
Took the words out of my mouth. A few posters love these types of threads and will be on them 24/7 writing out an essay of a post. You will never see them on a pre or post match thread. Strange.1 -
Why does it bother you so much?O-Randy-Hunt said:blackpool72 said:
All I will say is this.cantersaddick said:What's weird is every time this happens CE digs out ME14 and brings up the unrelated covid discussions from multiple years ago, even though he can see she's not started any of these conversations. Shes only replied to the 2 trolls who try to be controversial for their own feelings of self importance and who are unhappy the thread has been perfectly on track for 2 days.
ME 14 is all over certain threads whether it's climate change, Covid , traffic congestion and numerous other subjects.
She never posts or hardly ever posts on football threads and this is a Charlton forum after all.
I don't disagree with a lot of what she posts but just quoting various experts on various subjects comes across a little patronising at times.
Took the words out of my mouth. A few posters love these types of threads and will be on them 24/7 writing out an essay of a post. You will never see them on a pre or post match thread. Strange.
If I had anything useful to say on other threads I would do so. I choose to post on topics that interest me. I've always enjoyed football, particularly the days when I would attend all home matches with my Dad. Sadly those days are now over so unless I can usefully contribute to a thread, I keep quiet. Perhaps that's a good thing as a post from me seems to bring out comments from the same people. They usually do so in order to get the thread shut down.0 -
Sure thing brev. I'm sure ME won't deny she likes a thread where there is potential for a bit of confrontation/debate.cantersaddick said:
Don't make veiled comments like that. Name names and let them defend themselves. For one I've seen ME on match threads last season.O-Randy-Hunt said:blackpool72 said:
All I will say is this.cantersaddick said:What's weird is every time this happens CE digs out ME14 and brings up the unrelated covid discussions from multiple years ago, even though he can see she's not started any of these conversations. Shes only replied to the 2 trolls who try to be controversial for their own feelings of self importance and who are unhappy the thread has been perfectly on track for 2 days.
ME 14 is all over certain threads whether it's climate change, Covid , traffic congestion and numerous other subjects.
She never posts or hardly ever posts on football threads and this is a Charlton forum after all.
I don't disagree with a lot of what she posts but just quoting various experts on various subjects comes across a little patronising at times.
Took the words out of my mouth. A few posters love these types of threads and will be on them 24/7 writing out an essay of a post. You will never see them on a pre or post match thread. Strange.
Having said that, over her last 20 odd comments she has posted on the world cup thread.... about trump and zelensky.4 -
O-Randy-Hunt said:
Sure thing brev. I'm sure ME won't deny she likes a thread where there is potential for a bit of confrontation/debate.cantersaddick said:
Don't make veiled comments like that. Name names and let them defend themselves. For one I've seen ME on match threads last season.O-Randy-Hunt said:blackpool72 said:
All I will say is this.cantersaddick said:What's weird is every time this happens CE digs out ME14 and brings up the unrelated covid discussions from multiple years ago, even though he can see she's not started any of these conversations. Shes only replied to the 2 trolls who try to be controversial for their own feelings of self importance and who are unhappy the thread has been perfectly on track for 2 days.
ME 14 is all over certain threads whether it's climate change, Covid , traffic congestion and numerous other subjects.
She never posts or hardly ever posts on football threads and this is a Charlton forum after all.
I don't disagree with a lot of what she posts but just quoting various experts on various subjects comes across a little patronising at times.
Took the words out of my mouth. A few posters love these types of threads and will be on them 24/7 writing out an essay of a post. You will never see them on a pre or post match thread. Strange.
Having said that, over her last 20 odd comments she has posted on the world cup thread.... about trump and zelensky.
I do enjoy a debate it's true, but isn't that what a forum is for?
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So not what you said which was "You will never see them on a pre or post match thread".O-Randy-Hunt said:
Sure thing brev. I'm sure ME won't deny she likes a thread where there is potential for a bit of confrontation/debate.cantersaddick said:
Don't make veiled comments like that. Name names and let them defend themselves. For one I've seen ME on match threads last season.O-Randy-Hunt said:blackpool72 said:
All I will say is this.cantersaddick said:What's weird is every time this happens CE digs out ME14 and brings up the unrelated covid discussions from multiple years ago, even though he can see she's not started any of these conversations. Shes only replied to the 2 trolls who try to be controversial for their own feelings of self importance and who are unhappy the thread has been perfectly on track for 2 days.
ME 14 is all over certain threads whether it's climate change, Covid , traffic congestion and numerous other subjects.
She never posts or hardly ever posts on football threads and this is a Charlton forum after all.
I don't disagree with a lot of what she posts but just quoting various experts on various subjects comes across a little patronising at times.
Took the words out of my mouth. A few posters love these types of threads and will be on them 24/7 writing out an essay of a post. You will never see them on a pre or post match thread. Strange.
Having said that, over her last 20 odd comments she has posted on the world cup thread.... about trump and zelensky.1 -
Absolutely, The Charlton Athletic football forum is only for debates on Climate change, Covid, War, Elon Musk & Politics.ME14addick said:O-Randy-Hunt said:
Sure thing brev. I'm sure ME won't deny she likes a thread where there is potential for a bit of confrontation/debate.cantersaddick said:
Don't make veiled comments like that. Name names and let them defend themselves. For one I've seen ME on match threads last season.O-Randy-Hunt said:blackpool72 said:
All I will say is this.cantersaddick said:What's weird is every time this happens CE digs out ME14 and brings up the unrelated covid discussions from multiple years ago, even though he can see she's not started any of these conversations. Shes only replied to the 2 trolls who try to be controversial for their own feelings of self importance and who are unhappy the thread has been perfectly on track for 2 days.
ME 14 is all over certain threads whether it's climate change, Covid , traffic congestion and numerous other subjects.
She never posts or hardly ever posts on football threads and this is a Charlton forum after all.
I don't disagree with a lot of what she posts but just quoting various experts on various subjects comes across a little patronising at times.
Took the words out of my mouth. A few posters love these types of threads and will be on them 24/7 writing out an essay of a post. You will never see them on a pre or post match thread. Strange.
Having said that, over her last 20 odd comments she has posted on the world cup thread.... about trump and zelensky.
I do enjoy a debate it's true, but isn't that what a forum is for?4 -
I feel for you and everyone else who has to work in such heat and humidity.tangoflash said:I'm gonna have a little self-pity rant.
Spare a thought for us HGV drivers that spend all week sleeping in our trucks, making sure essential goods are being delivered up & down the country. Most trucks these days have air con, although speaking to various drivers at my company, many don't work. The problem is that (like your car), it only works when the engine is running. Fitting an air con unit that runs independently is a cost most haulage companies are not willing to pay for. Some drivers opt for simply leaving their engine running all night, which not only is bad for the air quality, but also noise pollution, so you have no choice but to close all windows. Many trucks (like mine) are fitted with an engine cut-out, that switches it off after a few minutes if there's no driver input (brake or accelorator), so leaving it running isn't even an option. One option is to find a lay by with no other trucks, rather than a truck stop, but most companies won't allow us to park in the middle of nowhere if we have a loaded trailer, also, it's not a good idea to park in an unsecure place and have your windows open, so we just lay in our boxes with fans blowing on us, trying to grab at least a couple of hours sleep, before waking up and having the company push you to do a 15hr shift all over again.
It's not a job I'd recommend to any youngsters thinking about doing. I knew I should've paid more attention at school
Employers are going to have to consider the health and wellbeing of employees as these events become more frequent. We have a minimum temperature for working, perhaps consideration should be given to having a safe maximum.0 -
I expect the mods will know and I certainly don't intend counting them, but Charlton Life does cover many of life's topics as well as football, certainly a lot more than those you have quoted.O-Randy-Hunt said:
Absolutely, The Charlton Atheltic football forum is only for debates on Climate change, Covid, War, Elon Musk & Politics.ME14addick said:O-Randy-Hunt said:
Sure thing brev. I'm sure ME won't deny she likes a thread where there is potential for a bit of confrontation/debate.cantersaddick said:
Don't make veiled comments like that. Name names and let them defend themselves. For one I've seen ME on match threads last season.O-Randy-Hunt said:blackpool72 said:
All I will say is this.cantersaddick said:What's weird is every time this happens CE digs out ME14 and brings up the unrelated covid discussions from multiple years ago, even though he can see she's not started any of these conversations. Shes only replied to the 2 trolls who try to be controversial for their own feelings of self importance and who are unhappy the thread has been perfectly on track for 2 days.
ME 14 is all over certain threads whether it's climate change, Covid , traffic congestion and numerous other subjects.
She never posts or hardly ever posts on football threads and this is a Charlton forum after all.
I don't disagree with a lot of what she posts but just quoting various experts on various subjects comes across a little patronising at times.
Took the words out of my mouth. A few posters love these types of threads and will be on them 24/7 writing out an essay of a post. You will never see them on a pre or post match thread. Strange.
Having said that, over her last 20 odd comments she has posted on the world cup thread.... about trump and zelensky.
I do enjoy a debate it's true, but isn't that what a forum is for?1 -
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Not everything requires legislation or formal instruction of course.ME14addick said:
I feel for you and everyone else who has to work in such heat and humidity.tangoflash said:I'm gonna have a little self-pity rant.
Spare a thought for us HGV drivers that spend all week sleeping in our trucks, making sure essential goods are being delivered up & down the country. Most trucks these days have air con, although speaking to various drivers at my company, many don't work. The problem is that (like your car), it only works when the engine is running. Fitting an air con unit that runs independently is a cost most haulage companies are not willing to pay for. Some drivers opt for simply leaving their engine running all night, which not only is bad for the air quality, but also noise pollution, so you have no choice but to close all windows. Many trucks (like mine) are fitted with an engine cut-out, that switches it off after a few minutes if there's no driver input (brake or accelorator), so leaving it running isn't even an option. One option is to find a lay by with no other trucks, rather than a truck stop, but most companies won't allow us to park in the middle of nowhere if we have a loaded trailer, also, it's not a good idea to park in an unsecure place and have your windows open, so we just lay in our boxes with fans blowing on us, trying to grab at least a couple of hours sleep, before waking up and having the company push you to do a 15hr shift all over again.
It's not a job I'd recommend to any youngsters thinking about doing. I knew I should've paid more attention at school
Employers are going to have to consider the health and wellbeing of employees as these events become more frequent. We have a minimum temperature for working, perhaps consideration should be given to having a safe maximum.Common sense approaches are often enough as we have seen this week with some schools closing early etc.
We are all human and I suspect many employers / line managers were pragmatic this week within the boundaries / constraints they may have. Keeping staff on side is in everyone’s interests. The media outcry for legislation isn’t necessarily needed.I’m not sure I’ve seen many reports of outrageous employer behaviour linked directly to the exceptional circumstances.0 -
If ever there were a case for 'Physician heal thyself' being chanted from every rooftop, this would be it.cantersaddick said:What's weird is every time this happens CE digs out ME14 and brings up the unrelated covid discussions from multiple years ago, even though he can see she's not started any of these conversations. Shes only replied to the 2 trolls who try to be controversial for their own feelings of self importance and who are unhappy the thread has been perfectly on track for 2 days.2 -
And yet. Twice now when this thread has been perfectly on topic talking about the weather that day for a couple days you've deliberately tried to take it down this route knowing where it would lead.Redskin said:
If ever there were a case for 'Physician heal thyself' being chanted from every rooftop, this would be it.cantersaddick said:What's weird is every time this happens CE digs out ME14 and brings up the unrelated covid discussions from multiple years ago, even though he can see she's not started any of these conversations. Shes only replied to the 2 trolls who try to be controversial for their own feelings of self importance and who are unhappy the thread has been perfectly on track for 2 days.
I know I'm not important, I just paid attention at school.1 -
Perhaps I’m looking at this in a to simplistic way, but in my opinion a big mistake was for the government BBC etc to stop the anti climate change fraction having a voice, this prevented a debate where they could be challenged, by doing this they forced the anti climate change views underground where some of the more wild claims have blossomed into facts to some. Just saying climate change has been proven dosen’t mean it has to a minority that has now become a larger minority.
Sorry this isn’t a political comment just my own personal opinion where the debate could have been undertaken differently.0 -
This weather has sent my missus around the twist. She’s unbearable at the moment. Moan, moan, moan 😤0
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As opposed to people quoting non-experts and Dave Off Facebook? As has happened multiple times in this thread alone...blackpool72 said:
All I will say is this.cantersaddick said:What's weird is every time this happens CE digs out ME14 and brings up the unrelated covid discussions from multiple years ago, even though he can see she's not started any of these conversations. Shes only replied to the 2 trolls who try to be controversial for their own feelings of self importance and who are unhappy the thread has been perfectly on track for 2 days.
ME 14 is all over certain threads whether it's climate change, Covid , traffic congestion and numerous other subjects.
She never posts or hardly ever posts on football threads and this is a Charlton forum after all.
I don't disagree with a lot of what she posts but just quoting various experts on various subjects comes across a little patronising at times.2 -
Absolutely ruthless job in this heat, you have my sympathies. I've had a couple of deliveries this week and gave both drivers a tin of coke - seemed literally the least I could do as they were both a proper mess. I can't imagine how much of a sweatbox an HGV can must be without ACtangoflash said:I'm gonna have a little self-pity rant.
Spare a thought for us HGV drivers that spend all week sleeping in our trucks, making sure essential goods are being delivered up & down the country. Most trucks these days have air con, although speaking to various drivers at my company, many don't work. The problem is that (like your car), it only works when the engine is running. Fitting an air con unit that runs independently is a cost most haulage companies are not willing to pay for. Some drivers opt for simply leaving their engine running all night, which not only is bad for the air quality, but also noise pollution, so you have no choice but to close all windows. Many trucks (like mine) are fitted with an engine cut-out, that switches it off after a few minutes if there's no driver input (brake or accelorator), so leaving it running isn't even an option. One option is to find a lay by with no other trucks, rather than a truck stop, but most companies won't allow us to park in the middle of nowhere if we have a loaded trailer, also, it's not a good idea to park in an unsecure place and have your windows open, so we just lay in our boxes with fans blowing on us, trying to grab at least a couple of hours sleep, before waking up and having the company push you to do a 15hr shift all over again.
It's not a job I'd recommend to any youngsters thinking about doing. I knew I should've paid more attention at school 2 -
I knew the route would be paved with the usual hoary old pejorative clichés from the majority view.cantersaddick said:
And yet. Twice now when this thread has been perfectly on topic talking about the weather that day for a couple days you've deliberately tried to take it down this route knowing where it would lead.Redskin said:
If ever there were a case for 'Physician heal thyself' being chanted from every rooftop, this would be it.cantersaddick said:What's weird is every time this happens CE digs out ME14 and brings up the unrelated covid discussions from multiple years ago, even though he can see she's not started any of these conversations. Shes only replied to the 2 trolls who try to be controversial for their own feelings of self importance and who are unhappy the thread has been perfectly on track for 2 days.
I know I'm not important I just paid attention at school.
But the mention of Climate Change had been liberally bandied about until I made any comment, so your insinuation that I've disrupted this thread intentionally simply by having an alternative view to the majority - which is anathema to the Climate Change acolytes - is disingenuous at best.
Forum: a designated space, medium, or assembly where people can exchange ideas, discuss issues, and express opinions.
Not on this forum it isn't. It's the majority view or you're a heretic or worse.
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Because if history has taught us one thing, it's that employers always look out for the welfare of their staff unbidden.valleynick66 said:
Not everything requires legislation or formal instruction of course.ME14addick said:
I feel for you and everyone else who has to work in such heat and humidity.tangoflash said:I'm gonna have a little self-pity rant.
Spare a thought for us HGV drivers that spend all week sleeping in our trucks, making sure essential goods are being delivered up & down the country. Most trucks these days have air con, although speaking to various drivers at my company, many don't work. The problem is that (like your car), it only works when the engine is running. Fitting an air con unit that runs independently is a cost most haulage companies are not willing to pay for. Some drivers opt for simply leaving their engine running all night, which not only is bad for the air quality, but also noise pollution, so you have no choice but to close all windows. Many trucks (like mine) are fitted with an engine cut-out, that switches it off after a few minutes if there's no driver input (brake or accelorator), so leaving it running isn't even an option. One option is to find a lay by with no other trucks, rather than a truck stop, but most companies won't allow us to park in the middle of nowhere if we have a loaded trailer, also, it's not a good idea to park in an unsecure place and have your windows open, so we just lay in our boxes with fans blowing on us, trying to grab at least a couple of hours sleep, before waking up and having the company push you to do a 15hr shift all over again.
It's not a job I'd recommend to any youngsters thinking about doing. I knew I should've paid more attention at school
Employers are going to have to consider the health and wellbeing of employees as these events become more frequent. We have a minimum temperature for working, perhaps consideration should be given to having a safe maximum.Common sense approaches are often enough as we have seen this week with some schools closing early etc.
We are all human and I suspect many employers / line managers were pragmatic this week within the boundaries / constraints they may have. Keeping staff on side is in everyone’s interests. The media outcry for legislation isn’t necessarily needed.I’m not sure I’ve seen many reports of outrageous employer behaviour linked directly to the exceptional circumstances.
*doffs cap2
