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England v Argentina | World Cup Semi Final | 15 July 2026
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'Roy Keane red cards' https://share.google/JxPLBuzXP1MQvXsyt1
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I can remember the 80s. I grew up in them. I'm just not tragic enough to hate an entire nation of people for something that happened as a result of political sabre rattling that got out of hand and ended up with a load of people killed as a result. I didn't grow up hating Germans in the 80s, and the second world war was the same amount of time ago then as the Falklands were to now.Leuth said:
I think there's a divide between people who can remember the 1980s and people who can'tse9addick said:Surely people don’t actually hate Argentina?
They do have an uncanny ability to turn out proper muggy little c**ts for footballers though...9 -
I dont think anyone on this thread hates an entire nation of people.Leroy Ambrose said:
I can remember the 80s. I grew up in them. I'm just not tragic enough to hate an entire nation of people for something that happened as a result of political sabre rattling that got out of hand and ended up with a load of people killed as a result. I didn't grow up hating Germans in the 80s, and the second world war was the same amount of time ago then as the Falklands were to now.Leuth said:
I think there's a divide between people who can remember the 1980s and people who can'tse9addick said:Surely people don’t actually hate Argentina?
They do have an uncanny ability to turn out proper muggy little c**ts for footballers though...
I think plenty have a strong dislike for a football team of .... well you worded it perfectly. Proper muggy little c*nts.
Also you wont see our players unfurling Falklands banners, singing Falklands songs in the changing room and generally going on about it non stop. It shouldnt matter - agree. So they should just shut their traps and get on with playing a football match (preferably minus handballs, cheating, and muggy behaviour).
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I'm assuming a bent over position already in the hope it hurts less.
Does feel like we've lost this one already. Kane and Rice won't have much if anything left in the tank. The subs did well against Norway but that won't be enough. As long as ours run around, no red cards and aren't smiling by the end that'll do. Exit the competition with honour.3 -
Thats the spirit.swords_alive said:I'm assuming a bent over position already in the hope it hurts less.
Does feel like we've lost this one already. Kane and Rice won't have much if anything left in the tank. The subs did well against Norway but that won't be enough. As long as ours run around, no red cards and aren't smiling by the end that'll do. Exit the competition with honour.11 -
Thankfully it won't come to that, as we'll never beat Mexico at the Azteca, and even if we do Haaland will have our defence for lunch.swords_alive said:I'm assuming a bent over position already in the hope it hurts less.
Does feel like we've lost this one already. Kane and Rice won't have much if anything left in the tank. The subs did well against Norway but that won't be enough. As long as ours run around, no red cards and aren't smiling by the end that'll do. Exit the competition with honour.14 -
Hardly surprising when you layer in some Italian expats to an indigenous population that aren’t dissimilar to the Paraguayans and we saw how they played Germany and France.Carter said:Some of you are either serious wet blankets or a lot more emotionally accepting of a nation represented by some real scumbags with a very questionable attitude to a lot of things (not steak, horses or rock music, they embrace those things absolutely fine)
Give me Terry Butcher over Maradona any day of the week. They revel in their manky tactics and shitfisting, and I'm sorry but the Falklands does come into it, as someone else said. They conscripted under-equipped and poorly trained boys to go and fight an unnecessary war of vanity and cost so many lives and permanently damaged thousands more.
Always been a dirty, horrible international team and I remphasise. I hope we take their souls and leave Messi crying like a baby0 -
I read today that Antonio Rattin died on Saturday. I hope they’re not thinking of having a minute’s ‘silence’ before the match…😬0
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After the next UK elections it looks like these two marvelous feuding sisters will be practically unified by common humanitarian valuesCarter said:Some of you are either serious wet blankets or a lot more emotionally accepting of a nation represented by some real scumbags with a very questionable attitude to a lot of things (not steak, horses or rock music, they embrace those things absolutely fine)
Give me Terry Butcher over Maradona any day of the week. They revel in their manky tactics and shitfisting, and I'm sorry but the Falklands does come into it, as someone else said. They conscripted under-equipped and poorly trained boys to go and fight an unnecessary war of vanity and cost so many lives and permanently damaged thousands more.
Always been a dirty, horrible international team and I remphasise. I hope we take their souls and leave Messi crying like a baby0 -
Well this stunt by a Scottish pub has backfired somewhat - as both Scottish and English folk have reminded them of the significant number of Scottish servicemen who lost their lives for their country.What a bunch of fucking idiots13 -
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The sort of pricks on Internet forums who try to correct people calling the South Atlantic islands The Falklands by posting Las Malvinas, as if they're clever.DamoNorthStand said:
Well this stunt by a Scottish pub has backfired somewhat - as both Scottish and English folk have reminded them of the significant number of Scottish servicemen who lost their lives for their country.What a bunch of fucking idiots
Ignorant attention seekers.4 -
Thought you was Irish?KBslittlesis said:I just feel for the Falklanders every World Cup, they must dread it.
I’ve been a nervous wreck before every England game, this will be no different 🫣3 -
Just landed in Atlanta.
If I open the FIFA ticket app and see my ticket with the words “England V Argentina” written down I get proper goosebumps19 -
We landed earlier.paulsturgess said:Just landed in Atlanta.
If I open the FIFA ticket app and see my ticket with the words “England V Argentina” written down I get proper goosebumps
Had a few beers in Fado on Peachtree street.
Great bar4 -
Class! I don’t know you but I’ve seen a lot of Charlton flags around! Good to know there’s other lifers in situTavern said:
We landed earlier.paulsturgess said:Just landed in Atlanta.
If I open the FIFA ticket app and see my ticket with the words “England V Argentina” written down I get proper goosebumps
Had a few beers in Fado on Peachtree street.
Great bar3 -

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Previous matches officiated by Ismail Elfath at this World Cup:
- Netherlands 2-2 Japan
- Uruguay 0-1 Spain
- Brazil 1-2 Norway2 -
oh leave off. She’s as Irish as I am and I’m supporting England. We don’t live bitter lives we celebrate being dual nationals. We are blessed like that.Guardy said:
Thought you was Irish?KBslittlesis said:I just feel for the Falklanders every World Cup, they must dread it.
I’ve been a nervous wreck before every England game, this will be no different 🫣6 -
After listening to the radio and hearing the G.O.A.T. Brian Moore commentating on Beckam's sending off, it makes you realise what dross we have to listen to nowadays.2
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Yep.MrWalker said:
The sort of pricks on Internet forums who try to correct people calling the South Atlantic islands The Falklands by posting Las Malvinas, as if they're clever.DamoNorthStand said:
Well this stunt by a Scottish pub has backfired somewhat - as both Scottish and English folk have reminded them of the significant number of Scottish servicemen who lost their lives for their country.What a bunch of fucking idiots
Ignorant attention seekers.Couple of lone Scots trying to justify it by bleating about our German manager etc.
I mean - how thick can you get? The Germans don’t have any connection to, nor as a nation have any positive sentiment towards the Nazis. Same as the Italians etc.
The Argies still go on about the Falklands, still think they were right, their football team sing songs about it and hold banners up. The media has still been going on about it this week. They bring it to the football every time they play us.These Scots thinking they are being funny are shitting all over their fellow countrymen who lost their lives thousands of miles from home to liberate British men and women.6 -
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She would have sold Kane, Rice and Bellingham off to foreign owned private equity for less than a 10th of their value.Billy_Mix said:
Couldn't rely on her, she'd be waiting for Rupert Murdoch to tell her what to do.usetobunkin said:
Ref no longer a problem4 -
Bit of a pious reaction tbh to what is clearly intended to be light football banter.DamoNorthStand said:
Well this stunt by a Scottish pub has backfired somewhat - as both Scottish and English folk have reminded them of the significant number of Scottish servicemen who lost their lives for their country.What a bunch of fucking idiots3 -

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Just dead banter now tho. Wasn’t really that funny to begin with and I thought the Scottish had excellent ‘patter’charente addick said:
Bit of a pious reaction tbh to what is clearly intended to be light football banter.DamoNorthStand said:
Well this stunt by a Scottish pub has backfired somewhat - as both Scottish and English folk have reminded them of the significant number of Scottish servicemen who lost their lives for their country.What a bunch of fucking idiots1 -
Getting more nervous as the game approaches. Not really had it at the world cup yet, I've always felt we would win each game, even after going behind.
I think our team in a fair fight has the beating of Argentina but can't help but think they'll con the ref in one way or another. I hate Argentina (in football, to clarify).0 -
Whether the humour ‘works’ or not is neither here nor there. The intent is clearly not meant to be disrespectful to deceased and injured soldiers and should be seen as such and not connected to a war.ValleyGary said:
Just dead banter now tho. Wasn’t really that funny to begin with and I thought the Scottish had excellent ‘patter’charente addick said:
Bit of a pious reaction tbh to what is clearly intended to be light football banter.DamoNorthStand said:
Well this stunt by a Scottish pub has backfired somewhat - as both Scottish and English folk have reminded them of the significant number of Scottish servicemen who lost their lives for their country.What a bunch of fucking idiots
In the last 10 years I’ve visited Argentina twice. I love the country and the people in it. Am I wrong to do so?!2 -
I couldn’t really give a shit mate, unless I saw you wearing their shirt when they play England. Then I’d think you’re a weirdo.charente addick said:
Whether the humour ‘works’ or not is neither here nor there. The intent is clearly not meant to be disrespectful to deceased and injured soldiers and should be seen as such and not connected to a war.ValleyGary said:
Just dead banter now tho. Wasn’t really that funny to begin with and I thought the Scottish had excellent ‘patter’charente addick said:
Bit of a pious reaction tbh to what is clearly intended to be light football banter.DamoNorthStand said:
Well this stunt by a Scottish pub has backfired somewhat - as both Scottish and English folk have reminded them of the significant number of Scottish servicemen who lost their lives for their country.What a bunch of fucking idiots
In the last 10 years I’ve visited Argentina twice. I love the country and the people in it. Am I wrong to do so?!Their football team are full of cheating, whining, racists little cretins. Why anyone other than Argentines would support that i don’t know. We need to smash them.16 -
Best to leave it there I think.ValleyGary said:
I couldn’t really give a shit mate, unless I saw you wearing their shirt when they play England. Then I’d think you’re a weirdo.charente addick said:
Whether the humour ‘works’ or not is neither here nor there. The intent is clearly not meant to be disrespectful to deceased and injured soldiers and should be seen as such and not connected to a war.ValleyGary said:
Just dead banter now tho. Wasn’t really that funny to begin with and I thought the Scottish had excellent ‘patter’charente addick said:
Bit of a pious reaction tbh to what is clearly intended to be light football banter.DamoNorthStand said:
Well this stunt by a Scottish pub has backfired somewhat - as both Scottish and English folk have reminded them of the significant number of Scottish servicemen who lost their lives for their country.What a bunch of fucking idiots
In the last 10 years I’ve visited Argentina twice. I love the country and the people in it. Am I wrong to do so?!Their football team are full of cheating, whining, racists little cretins. Why anyone other than Argentines would support that i don’t know. We need to smash them.5 -
I associate 'dirty' with non football stuff... Pinching, spitting, grabbing, pulling, feigning injury, waving imaginary cards around, handballs etc.Chizz said:
This is brilliant!ValleyLocal said:
Still don't agree.fenaddick said:
Just an addition to my nonsense. I think you’re right that we don’t like dirty teams but I still think we like to have a few dirty individuals in our teamsValleyLocal said:
I don't think it is a good comment, because he was specifically talking about the HoG. He said we'd be happy if Gazza or someone did that. And I don't think that is true at all. In fact it's nonsense.Neil_Heaney said:
Very good point this. We battered Maradona all over the park at The Azteca (rightly so) – elbows, two-footers, the lot. His response was a slight of hand to steal a goal and take revenge for his treatment and the way us Brits have meddled in his country and most others in the world over history.fenaddick said:ValleyLocal said:
Completely and utterly disagree.fenaddick said:
I still maintain if that had been done by an English player like Gazza he'd be praised for being cheeky and it would be an iconic thing in this countryAllHailTheHen said:The Maradona hand ball being the single greatest act of cheating at a world cup and somehow being accepted by the Argies as the hand of God is something i'll never be able to get past. Add to that Batistuta's nodding at Beck's red card and the general shit housing that their team is allowed to get away with. I hope we crush them.
I can hear Jimmy Hill now, saying it's just not cricket & what a terrible way to win. And most would agree.
Genuinely think it's odd that someone can be born and raised in a country and so completely not understand it's character or mentality.
I think we're a nation who love a sly bit of cheating, just not in the way that the South Americans or Europeans do. We don't like diving but we love when a player goes too hard or too late into a tackle. It's why we loved Dobbo and Man Utd fans loved Roy Keane. We all want Miles Leaburn to start "using his body" aka fouling his opponent in a way the ref doesn't see. A cynical foul to stop a counter attack will get praised and most of the crowd telling the ref he's an idiot and nothing happened. Admittedly, we seem to like cheating when it makes you look hard but this idea that we're holier than thou is nonsense.DamoNorthStand said:
I agree with 99.9pc of what you post, but that is miles off.fenaddick said:
I still maintain if that had been done by an English player like Gazza he'd be praised for being cheeky and it would be an iconic thing in this countryAllHailTheHen said:The Maradona hand ball being the single greatest act of cheating at a world cup and somehow being accepted by the Argies as the hand of God is something i'll never be able to get past. Add to that Batistuta's nodding at Beck's red card and the general shit housing that their team is allowed to get away with. I hope we crush them.
1 - It wouldnt have happened in the first place - it just not how young players are raised here.
2 - Especially nowadays, they would end up getting frozen out for the rest of their career.
Of course it wouldn't happen in the modern day Damo, it would be ruled out by VAR and an incredibly dumb thing to do. I don't think the modern day Argentinian's would do it either.
I'm not saying I like cheating or like that Maradonna did it and got away with it. I just think that there are people of all nationalities and who play all sports that like to push the line in the hope of victory
Hacking players down and handball are both forms of foul play. I 'prefer' our foul play because it's how we're raised and what we're used to, but it goes both ways.
I cannot stand this Argentina side (apart from the manager who's an absolute gent) and hope we batter them, but as commented above it's a great country full of brilliant people.
And I don't think as a nation we love dirty or cynical fouls. It's why the 1970s Leeds team was widely disliked and isn't respected despite it's achievements. Even now, people call them Dirty Leeds. Wimbledon were also widely disliked, despite their fairytale rise from non-league. Wimbledon like is an insult, not praise.
As for meddling in the affairs of Argentina, you really do need to buy a history book and a map. It is Argentina, a country formed by the ancestors of people that stole the land from the native people, that meddled with the Falklands as part of their pathetic military posturing. We should feel sorry for the poor working class lads of Argentina who were forced to fight for an island that had and has nothing to do with Argentina. And never has.
I suggest that their current day players also read a history book and then campaign for justice for the veterans of that war, rather than sing songs about it. They've been completely brainwashed by their government.
I don't think Dennis Wise or Robbie Savage are particularly revered at any of their former clubs.
I think the Brits like hard but fair players much more.
Roy Keane was never dirty. He committed that savage foul. But wasn't a dirty player. So is probably the closest player to what you are alluding to. But he wasn't dirty in a snide way.
Funny enough, the sort of nonsense the Argentinians rely on to win games.
In that sense, Roy Keane wasn't dirty for me, whereas Vinnie Jones and Dennis Wise were.
However, perhaps the original poster is correct. Whilst I don't think us Brits would be very proud of a blatant handball, I do think I would enjoy someone two footing Messi to end his career and really break Argentinian hearts, with us 2-0 up and seeing out last few minutes with ten men.0 -
charente addick said:
Whether the humour ‘works’ or not is neither here nor there. The intent is clearly not meant to be disrespectful to deceased and injured soldiers and should be seen as such and not connected to a war.ValleyGary said:
Just dead banter now tho. Wasn’t really that funny to begin with and I thought the Scottish had excellent ‘patter’charente addick said:
Bit of a pious reaction tbh to what is clearly intended to be light football banter.DamoNorthStand said:
Well this stunt by a Scottish pub has backfired somewhat - as both Scottish and English folk have reminded them of the significant number of Scottish servicemen who lost their lives for their country.What a bunch of fucking idiots
In the last 10 years I’ve visited Argentina twice. I love the country and the people in it. Am I wrong to do so?!Right for about the fiftieth time. Because there is a good reason why the Falklands conflict comes up whenever we play them.It is their football team. THEY connect the football with a conflict.They are the only football team I am aware of to bring out banners and sing songs connected to a conflict. They do it. The evidence is there to see.
The Germans don’t do it. We don’t do it.If they want to make it about the football (which it should be) then they should shut their traps and get on with playing football (ideally not with their hands this time)5














