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  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 24,268
    Top tier trolling, just slip that little 4 letter word in there like a serial killers calling card, outstanding. 

    Going to change my fantasy team name to Port Vile in his honour
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 66,971
    edited July 21
    Scott Fraser is available after his six month contract at Brechin City expired.
  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 11,336
    Redrobo said:
    From Plymouth fans forum:-

       ArgylelnDubai said: S

    Another bit of info but I'm really getting tired of this one.

    Sounds like a messy situation.

    Supposedly the deal for Mitchell was agreed in principle between us and Charlton. Mitchell was due to travel down Monday for medical/sign off etc.

    Mitchell wasn't even in the Charlton squad for their match

    Saturday I'm told.

    Supposedly Charlton have heard about the Tolaj money and have started trying to add some ridiculous clauses to the deal. Fee supposedly around 600k but they wanted more.

    Mitchell fuming. Plymouth fuming. Proper vile behaviour from Charlton that and I hope he throws his toys out the pram.

    Sorry, but that does change the complexion of the deal, Plymouth would've done the same thing.
    Thing is, the whole world knew Tolaj was leaving for a decent fee this summer. That poster is acting as if that's been hidden the last 2 months, or Charlton are stupid enough to have only just realised they've come into a bit of money. If we were clever enough we would've been baking that into any fee we were asking for from the beginning of the summer.
    The amount of people who chat absolute ‘ITK’ gas on here, I expect applies for other forums/social media as well. 
  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,279
    Scott Fraser is available after his six month contract at Brechin City expired.
    Not sure what happened with Fraser to end that far down at only 31 . Completely lost his ability or motivation 
  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,947
    Redrobo said:
    From Plymouth fans forum:-

       ArgylelnDubai said: S

    Another bit of info but I'm really getting tired of this one.

    Sounds like a messy situation.

    Supposedly the deal for Mitchell was agreed in principle between us and Charlton. Mitchell was due to travel down Monday for medical/sign off etc.

    Mitchell wasn't even in the Charlton squad for their match

    Saturday I'm told.

    Supposedly Charlton have heard about the Tolaj money and have started trying to add some ridiculous clauses to the deal. Fee supposedly around 600k but they wanted more.

    Mitchell fuming. Plymouth fuming. Proper vile behaviour from Charlton that and I hope he throws his toys out the pram.

    Sorry, but that does change the complexion of the deal, Plymouth would've done the same thing.
    It's also why Nathan Jones is notoriously tight lipped about transfer budgets and outgoings. Just look at the speculation on here when we thought Brighton were in for Mbick, wild figures that were pure guess work. If I were Plymouth, I would have got my business done before Tolaj signed on the dotted line, not always easy though. 
  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,525
    Scott Fraser is available after his six month contract at Brechin City expired.
    Not sure what happened with Fraser to end that far down at only 31 . Completely lost his ability or motivation 
    He was too busy repainting his house to carry on training 🤷🏻‍♂️
  • Bod
    Bod Posts: 327
    Redrobo said:
    From Plymouth fans forum:-

       ArgylelnDubai said: S

    Another bit of info but I'm really getting tired of this one.

    Sounds like a messy situation.

    Supposedly the deal for Mitchell was agreed in principle between us and Charlton. Mitchell was due to travel down Monday for medical/sign off etc.

    Mitchell wasn't even in the Charlton squad for their match

    Saturday I'm told.

    Supposedly Charlton have heard about the Tolaj money and have started trying to add some ridiculous clauses to the deal. Fee supposedly around 600k but they wanted more.

    Mitchell fuming. Plymouth fuming. Proper vile behaviour from Charlton that and I hope he throws his toys out the pram.

    How terrible and vile that the selling club knows the buying club has some cash to splash and wants to maximise its potential takings. They wanted him on the cheap and they won't get him on the cheap, tough.
    That's life Plymouth!
  • AberystwythAddick
    AberystwythAddick Posts: 2,018
    Bod said:
    Redrobo said:
    From Plymouth fans forum:-

       ArgylelnDubai said: S

    Another bit of info but I'm really getting tired of this one.

    Sounds like a messy situation.

    Supposedly the deal for Mitchell was agreed in principle between us and Charlton. Mitchell was due to travel down Monday for medical/sign off etc.

    Mitchell wasn't even in the Charlton squad for their match

    Saturday I'm told.

    Supposedly Charlton have heard about the Tolaj money and have started trying to add some ridiculous clauses to the deal. Fee supposedly around 600k but they wanted more.

    Mitchell fuming. Plymouth fuming. Proper vile behaviour from Charlton that and I hope he throws his toys out the pram.

    How terrible and vile that the selling club knows the buying club has some cash to splash and wants to maximise its potential takings. They wanted him on the cheap and they won't get him on the cheap, tough.
    That's life Plymouth!
    Tbf price shouldn’t shift because a team has sold a player. The price is the price as was seemingly agreed, a club can either afford it or can’t. Personally don’t think it’s a great look 
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 86,823
    fenaddick said:
    Cafc451 said:
    Your joking Alex Gilbey?.
    No, been linked along with a Lincoln midfielder call McGrandles
    I heard our scouts were impressed with Jack Payne when watching Mbick last season too
    You must have same source as me.

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  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 36,411
    Vile
    It's that one word that makes me think troll.

    Not a word you'd usually see in a fans forum....unless you are an Orient fan.
  • KiwiValley
    KiwiValley Posts: 3,592
    CAFCTrev said:
    What level of outrage are we at?
    Incandescent with Rage 
    So barely registering on the Charlton Life Outrage Scale.
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 27,547
    edited July 21
    Vile
    It's that one word that makes me think troll.

    Not a word you'd usually see in a fans forum....unless you are an Orient fan.
    So Henry is an Orient fan...Wow, that's groundbreaking stuff golfie...🙄
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,801
    Scott Fraser is available after his six month contract at Brechin City expired.
    Not sure what happened with Fraser to end that far down at only 31 . Completely lost his ability or motivation 
    Useless waste of space - right up there with Chris Gunther levels of rage for me when it comes to some of the dross we’ve had down here in the last 15 years 
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 6,229
    So 

    Ivan in for c £500K (rumoured)
    Billy in for c £500K (rumoured)
    Grant in for free (obvs a signing on free, who knows maybe £500K?)

    A Mitchell out for say £500K
    Anderson out, who knows, maybe £3-400K?
    Kanu to go, who knows, maybe £750K?

    IF that is broadly accurate (and it's mainly guess work but can't see it being miles out) then apart from Collins, we won't have spent a penny so far this window.

    Expecting big things in the next 2-3 weeks.

    The wages of the 3 coming in will be much much higher than the 3 coming out. When it comes to our playing budget that matters alongside transfer fees 
  • MrBurns
    MrBurns Posts: 2,009
    So 

    Ivan in for c £500K (rumoured)
    Billy in for c £500K (rumoured)
    Grant in for free (obvs a signing on free, who knows maybe £500K?)

    A Mitchell out for say £500K
    Anderson out, who knows, maybe £3-400K?
    Kanu to go, who knows, maybe £750K?

    IF that is broadly accurate (and it's mainly guess work but can't see it being miles out) then apart from Collins, we won't have spent a penny so far this window.

    Expecting big things in the next 2-3 weeks.

    I expect the money for Anderson went towards the rest of the money we owe for Apter. 
  • Cafc451
    Cafc451 Posts: 148
    Bradford City sign Charlton defender Macaulay Gillesphey dont forget that and will one of our goal keepers go?.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 24,268
    He have 3 keepers, no chance they leave unless we have another one lined up
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,958
    cabbles said:
    Scott Fraser is available after his six month contract at Brechin City expired.
    Not sure what happened with Fraser to end that far down at only 31 . Completely lost his ability or motivation 
    Useless waste of space - right up there with Chris Gunther levels of rage for me when it comes to some of the dross we’ve had down here in the last 15 years 
    He had one decent enough season so not close to Gunter levels for me.

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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 86,823
    So 

    Ivan in for c £500K (rumoured)
    Billy in for c £500K (rumoured)
    Grant in for free (obvs a signing on free, who knows maybe £500K?)

    A Mitchell out for say £500K
    Anderson out, who knows, maybe £3-400K?
    Kanu to go, who knows, maybe £750K?

    IF that is broadly accurate (and it's mainly guess work but can't see it being miles out) then apart from Collins, we won't have spent a penny so far this window.

    Expecting big things in the next 2-3 weeks.

    Macca and Zak gone too plus some of Ahadme's wages.

    Not sure why some people are assuming there is anything outstanding on the Apter fee. There maybe but even if there is the Karoy fee is still income in this financial year.
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 6,229
    So 

    Ivan in for c £500K (rumoured)
    Billy in for c £500K (rumoured)
    Grant in for free (obvs a signing on free, who knows maybe £500K?)

    A Mitchell out for say £500K
    Anderson out, who knows, maybe £3-400K?
    Kanu to go, who knows, maybe £750K?

    IF that is broadly accurate (and it's mainly guess work but can't see it being miles out) then apart from Collins, we won't have spent a penny so far this window.

    Expecting big things in the next 2-3 weeks.

    Macca and Zak gone too plus some of Ahadme's wages.

    Not sure why some people are assuming there is anything outstanding on the Apter fee. There maybe but even if there is the Karoy fee is still income in this financial year.
    The Apter fee will be paid in instalments over the course of his contract. You are right though the Karoy fee will be recorded in full as income this year, even though Blackpool will pay it over 4 years
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 21,112
    Also, we WILL have spent money. We might recoup some of it but that doesn't mean we aren't spending money. Not spending money would be selling without buying anyone
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,779
    So 

    Ivan in for c £500K (rumoured)
    Billy in for c £500K (rumoured)
    Grant in for free (obvs a signing on free, who knows maybe £500K?)

    A Mitchell out for say £500K
    Anderson out, who knows, maybe £3-400K?
    Kanu to go, who knows, maybe £750K?

    IF that is broadly accurate (and it's mainly guess work but can't see it being miles out) then apart from Collins, we won't have spent a penny so far this window.

    Expecting big things in the next 2-3 weeks.

    Having a herd of elephants delivered?
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 21,112
    edited July 21
    NabySarr said:
    So 

    Ivan in for c £500K (rumoured)
    Billy in for c £500K (rumoured)
    Grant in for free (obvs a signing on free, who knows maybe £500K?)

    A Mitchell out for say £500K
    Anderson out, who knows, maybe £3-400K?
    Kanu to go, who knows, maybe £750K?

    IF that is broadly accurate (and it's mainly guess work but can't see it being miles out) then apart from Collins, we won't have spent a penny so far this window.

    Expecting big things in the next 2-3 weeks.

    Macca and Zak gone too plus some of Ahadme's wages.

    Not sure why some people are assuming there is anything outstanding on the Apter fee. There maybe but even if there is the Karoy fee is still income in this financial year.
    The Apter fee will be paid in instalments over the course of his contract. You are right though the Karoy fee will be recorded in full as income this year, even though Blackpool will pay it over 4 years
    I think this is a common misconception. It will go on our books as being paid over the course of his contract, how the actual money gets sent to Blackpool is all part of the negotiation. You commonly hear about these things in the context of release clauses but it will be the same for "normal" fees too. 
  • So 

    Ivan in for c £500K (rumoured)
    Billy in for c £500K (rumoured)
    Grant in for free (obvs a signing on free, who knows maybe £500K?)

    A Mitchell out for say £500K
    Anderson out, who knows, maybe £3-400K?
    Kanu to go, who knows, maybe £750K?

    IF that is broadly accurate (and it's mainly guess work but can't see it being miles out) then apart from Collins, we won't have spent a penny so far this window.

    Expecting big things in the next 2-3 weeks.

    Except I would expect those new players to be on higher wages. If for example the departing players were on £7k a week and the new signings are on £14k, x3, that would be an extra £1.1m of this years player budget. As transfer fees are spread over the duration of a players contract it’s not as clear cut as that. We’re still paying the percentages of Kelman’s and even Ahadme’s fees this year.
  • BigDiddy
    BigDiddy Posts: 1,472
    Have the owners made any statements about the financial position of the club?

    I heard somewhere that the club is losing a lot of money £12m+ and with the new rules in place, its difficult to see how we can add to our losses through increased costs.

    Also heard that the owners are looking to get out.

    Some clarity from the club would help limit the rumours.
  • ns9
    ns9 Posts: 113
    So 

    Ivan in for c £500K (rumoured)
    Billy in for c £500K (rumoured)
    Grant in for free (obvs a signing on free, who knows maybe £500K?)

    A Mitchell out for say £500K
    Anderson out, who knows, maybe £3-400K?
    Kanu to go, who knows, maybe £750K?

    IF that is broadly accurate (and it's mainly guess work but can't see it being miles out) then apart from Collins, we won't have spent a penny so far this window.

    Expecting big things in the next 2-3 weeks.

    Except I would expect those new players to be on higher wages. If for example the departing players were on £7k a week and the new signings are on £14k, x3, that would be an extra £1.1m of this years player budget. As transfer fees are spread over the duration of a players contract it’s not as clear cut as that. We’re still paying the percentages of Kelman’s and even Ahadme’s fees this year.
    Surely the new signings, Karlan apart, won’t be on much more than the players departing? Are they really that much of a step up in quality and therefore money?
  • AberystwythAddick
    AberystwythAddick Posts: 2,018
    BigDiddy said:
    Have the owners made any statements about the financial position of the club?

    I heard somewhere that the club is losing a lot of money £12m+ and with the new rules in place, its difficult to see how we can add to our losses through increased costs.

    Also heard that the owners are looking to get out.

    Some clarity from the club would help limit the rumours.
    They don’t need to give anyone clarity because rumours don’t matter 
  • KiwiValley
    KiwiValley Posts: 3,592
    Not noticed the post number counter next to names before. Feels a bit ... sideways glancing in the changing room....

    All i can say is that I am a late developer.

    A grower not a shower, if you will.