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  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 36,411
    Did we really keep our powder dry to make 2 loan signings for cm and rw? 
    It's all talk. 

    I know frees & loans attract up front payments, and some players such as Grant & Chalobah will be on higher wages than our average players, but our transfer outlay falls short of what most on here would have thought we would have spent by the season opener. 

    And no-one will convince me that we've been chasing Ouma for months. Per-leeease.
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 8,943
    Braziliance has found a new job as CAFC's SM Disruptor, if a rumour looks like it's gaining traction his job is to go onto various platforms and feed the line that it's not a player it's his friend...
    Just what I was thinking - they’ve brought him inside the tent - wise move 
  • 995632
    995632 Posts: 335
    Bailey said:
    The point I was trying to make is that Chalobah and Ouma are both defensive midfield players, and unless Nathan Jones has a plan it's hard to imagine us playing both. 
    Beyond the highlight clips, his work rate is a major asset. He presses, tracks runners and helps in defensive transition, showing the stamina to repeat actions late. Off the ball, his movement and tactical awareness let him play as a deeper playmaker, advanced 8 or wide midfielder, drifting inside. That versatility and growing coordination with teammates improve each European season. "
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 21,112
    Did we really keep our powder dry to make 2 loan signings for cm and rw? 
    It's all talk. 

    I know frees & loans attract up front payments, and some players such as Grant & Chalobah will be on higher wages than our average players, but our transfer outlay falls short of what most on here would have thought we would have spent by the season opener. 

    And no-one will convince me that we've been chasing Ouma for months. Per-leeease.
    Not sure we’ll have been chasing him for months but he’ll have been on our list. I still think Holsgrove was our prime target and we either realised we couldn’t get him and went for Chalobah or decided Chalobah was better value for money and gave us the budget to look at someone like Ouma. I would guess we’re covering a hefty chunk of his wages 
  • AberystwythAddick
    AberystwythAddick Posts: 2,018
    DOUCHER said:
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    If TC does leave for Preston, I’d expect it to be late in the window. That gives us time to sign another winger, and also get Alli and Apter fully fit. If we lost TC this week I’d be quite concerned about our options for Saturday 

    We also play Preston later this month, surely we don’t let them have TC until after that. And if we start the season well and they don’t maybe TC will re-assess who he’d rather commit too 
    Why would TC want to leave now when Nathan seems to be bringing quality players that judging by the game last Saturday is going to make his season very enjoyable and make his prospects all the much better ?
    I agree, but the best thing for TC to do is probably not commit to signing for us now and see how the season goes. But the club might say to him he either needs to sign a new contract or they will sell him. It’s a difficult situation 
    I don’t see the issue with running the contract down and then it’s up to us to match other offers in a year’s time - each year we stay up, in theory we should be more attractive / able to offer more - I think the shrewd business we have done with these 2 in midfield makes it less likely we need the TC cash to help sort that issue out 
    He could also sign for a foreign team in Jan. 

    I think a couple of teams in Scotland would bite your hand off to get him. 
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 8,943
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    If TC does leave for Preston, I’d expect it to be late in the window. That gives us time to sign another winger, and also get Alli and Apter fully fit. If we lost TC this week I’d be quite concerned about our options for Saturday 

    We also play Preston later this month, surely we don’t let them have TC until after that. And if we start the season well and they don’t maybe TC will re-assess who he’d rather commit too 
    Grant would be the starting lw if TC were to leave.
    i don’t think we would be signing a winger to replace tc rather one to play on the right 
    Yes but until we sign that player, TC will be starting. Hence why I said we shouldn’t even be considering selling him now, with no new winger signed and Alli/Apter both not fully fit yet 

    So TC and Grant will start on the wings on Saturday, so a new signing would be replacing TC in the team. 

    Plus, it’s only 1 game but if TC carries on like he did on Saturday against championship opposition then he will be starting and Grant will be either on the bench or playing up front 
    What did TC do on Saturday that, to you, makes him un-droppable ?  Yes he scored a good goal (then so did Godden) and he hit the bar. But tjat was all while playing on the left. in all his time on the right he did nothing special. He didnt beat his man or put a cross in. Neither did he cut in & shoot from the right. From what I could see all his best bits came from being on the left. 

    I've seen TC twice playing on the right this pre season & neither times did it work. No crosses nor cut insides. 

    If we are going to keep TC then we have to play him on the left. Imo if we can get £3m+ for him now I'd sell him. 

    I think the plan is to play Grant partly down the middle as well so there will be plenty of opportunity for TC down the left and not forgetting if we want to do 532, he can do a job at LWB 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 24,268
    The whole point of the modern game is you have a squad of players that can rotate in and out without the overall quality dropping, so you need TC AND Grant to be fit and playing well, same as Knibbs and Carey, same as Edwards (when fit) and Mesík, Ouma and Coventry etc etc.

    I don't think form comes into it as much as we like to think, look at Man City (extreme example I know) but Pep had no qualms about playing someone, them scoring a brace, then they'd be on the bench next game

  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 8,943
    SteveACS said:
    Bailey said:
    The point I was trying to make is that Chalobah and Ouma are both defensive midfield players, and unless Nathan Jones has a plan it's hard to imagine us playing both. 
    You've never heard of the double pivot?
    It’s a figure skating term or one used by female football coaches to try and sound clever 
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 53,097
    Did we really keep our powder dry to make 2 loan signings for cm and rw? 
    It's all talk. 

    I know frees & loans attract up front payments, and some players such as Grant & Chalobah will be on higher wages than our average players, but our transfer outlay falls short of what most on here would have thought we would have spent by the season opener. 

    And no-one will convince me that we've been chasing Ouma for months. Per-leeease.
    No one said we were chasing Ouma for months.

    But if Holsgrove is not gonna happening you move on to your next best option if you’ve half a brain or would you have preferred us to sign Foo Kin Noone.

    Jeez I’m signing out for the night as the stupidity levels are too much at times.
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 2,565
    I’d rather let TC walk on a free and hopefully get some compensation for him. He’s got enough to contribute to help keep us up and there’s more money involved there than selling him now. 
    If TC does go Grant would be the replacement for the LW role. I would love TC to say but I don’t think there’s a dramatic fall off from TC to Grant which would turn us into a relegation side, both of them can play off the right but both are clearly better off the left 

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  • 2121
    2121 Posts: 1,699
    We just need to pay tc what he's worth in the market and secure the contract 
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 12,408
    edited 9:29PM
    Still think centre mid is light on quality. If Challobah gets a knock we'll be back to Ouma plus Cov or Doc. I like both by the way, but we need more quality if we want to avoid a relegation scrap.

  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 2,288
    edited 9:31PM
    Did we really keep our powder dry to make 2 loan signings for cm and rw? 
    It's all talk. 

    I know frees & loans attract up front payments, and some players such as Grant & Chalobah will be on higher wages than our average players, but our transfer outlay falls short of what most on here would have thought we would have spent by the season opener. 

    And no-one will convince me that we've been chasing Ouma for months. Per-leeease.
    No one said we were chasing Ouma for months.

    But if Holsgrove is not gonna happening you move on to your next best option if you’ve half a brain or would you have preferred us to sign Foo Kin Noone.

    Jeez I’m signing out for the night as the stupidity levels are too much at times.
    To be fair they said they had been looking at him a long time, I’d say that indicates months.
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 8,943
    I’d rather let TC walk on a free and hopefully get some compensation for him. He’s got enough to contribute to help keep us up and there’s more money involved there than selling him now. 
    If TC does go Grant would be the replacement for the LW role. I would love TC to say but I don’t think there’s a dramatic fall off from TC to Grant which would turn us into a relegation side, both of them can play off the right but both are clearly better off the left 
    I see them as very different players - grant has the nouse, link up play and finishing ability - TC has the ability to go past defenders with ease and give them the runaround - Grant can’t do that 
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 6,230
    DOUCHER said:
    I’d rather let TC walk on a free and hopefully get some compensation for him. He’s got enough to contribute to help keep us up and there’s more money involved there than selling him now. 
    If TC does go Grant would be the replacement for the LW role. I would love TC to say but I don’t think there’s a dramatic fall off from TC to Grant which would turn us into a relegation side, both of them can play off the right but both are clearly better off the left 
    I see them as very different players - grant has the nouse, link up play and finishing ability - TC has the ability to go past defenders with ease and give them the runaround - Grant can’t do that 
    Alli can do that though, but I think he doesn’t quite have the fitness to do the running without the ball that TC and Grant can do 
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 6,230
    Valley11 said:
    Still think centre mid is light on quality. If Challobah gets a knock we'll be back to Ouma plus Cov or Doc. I like both by the way, but we need more quality if we want to avoid a relegation scrap.

    We had one or both of Cov and Doc playing in pretty much every game last season and stayed up. This season we will need them to play less but they are both good enough to play a role again 

    Think it’s quite disrespectful the way people are talking about them both when they both contributed to us winning plenty of points last season. Docherty away at Sheffield United was probably one of the best individual performances of the season. It’s not like having to play one of them means we will definitely be losing games. Playing 1 of them is absolutely fine, they both have good attributes, it’s just playing them together in this system that is not ideal 
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 11,202
    DOUCHER said:
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    If TC does leave for Preston, I’d expect it to be late in the window. That gives us time to sign another winger, and also get Alli and Apter fully fit. If we lost TC this week I’d be quite concerned about our options for Saturday 

    We also play Preston later this month, surely we don’t let them have TC until after that. And if we start the season well and they don’t maybe TC will re-assess who he’d rather commit too 
    Why would TC want to leave now when Nathan seems to be bringing quality players that judging by the game last Saturday is going to make his season very enjoyable and make his prospects all the much better ?
    I agree, but the best thing for TC to do is probably not commit to signing for us now and see how the season goes. But the club might say to him he either needs to sign a new contract or they will sell him. It’s a difficult situation 
    I don’t see the issue with running the contract down and then it’s up to us to match other offers in a year’s time - each year we stay up, in theory we should be more attractive / able to offer more - I think the shrewd business we have done with these 2 in midfield makes it less likely we need the TC cash to help sort that issue out 
    He could also sign for a foreign team in Jan. 

    I think a couple of teams in Scotland would bite your hand off to get him. 
    Unless it’s celtic, why would he want to go and play in Scotland?

    I think hearts will struggle to challenge again and rangers are not a match for Celtic 
  • DDOUBLEE
    DDOUBLEE Posts: 2,305
    Must the players that we wish to be rid of have to be sold before the winger comes in? Or can they simply not be named as part of the squad 
  • stjohnshill
    stjohnshill Posts: 162
    Had an update from the Holsgrove camp -

    Still extremely unlikely he comes. The asking price has caused some issues for us but ultimately the player still doesn’t have much interest in Charlton, despite some of his German offers no longer being there 
  • Southbank
    Southbank Posts: 5,809
    NabySarr said:
    Valley11 said:
    Still think centre mid is light on quality. If Challobah gets a knock we'll be back to Ouma plus Cov or Doc. I like both by the way, but we need more quality if we want to avoid a relegation scrap.

    We had one or both of Cov and Doc playing in pretty much every game last season and stayed up. This season we will need them to play less but they are both good enough to play a role again 

    Think it’s quite disrespectful the way people are talking about them both when they both contributed to us winning plenty of points last season. Docherty away at Sheffield United was probably one of the best individual performances of the season. It’s not like having to play one of them means we will definitely be losing games. Playing 1 of them is absolutely fine, they both have good attributes, it’s just playing them together in this system that is not ideal 
    Dream on. Without Coady we would have been relegated.
    We have Chalaboah, whose fitness record is far worse than Coady's , and a wild card in Ouma. I would think we need another midfielder, and get shot of Docherty. Maybe that is why the powder is still dry.

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  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,950
    Had an update from the Holsgrove camp -

    Still extremely unlikely he comes. The asking price has caused some issues for us but ultimately the player still doesn’t have much interest in Charlton, despite some of his German offers no longer being there 
    No guarantees he hacks it here anyway.

    If we went all out for anyone, I'd want it to be Stanley Mills and Brian De Keersmaecker. Now that would be proper 
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 15,128
    Valley11 said:
    Still think centre mid is light on quality. If Challobah gets a knock we'll be back to Ouma plus Cov or Doc. I like both by the way, but we need more quality if we want to avoid a relegation scrap.

    When
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 34,207
    I’m wondering whom we are keeping our powder dry for? Can’t imagine it was Chalobah or Ouma.
  • DDOUBLEE
    DDOUBLEE Posts: 2,305
    We won't be signing another CM. It'll be a RW and that should be that. I do expect TC to go unfortunately as Grant and Alli play in his position as well and it doesn't seem like we're moving on Apter 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 24,268
    I’m wondering whom we are keeping our powder dry for? Can’t imagine it was Chalobah or Ouma.
    It's quite clearly Holsgrove.

    If he refuses to come then ultimately, so be it, and you hope that we've done our homework and believe Ouma can be just as effective in what we're trying to achieve.

    Also means we can maybe rearrange the priorities and choose to spend more on a RW
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 18,726
    edited 10:45PM
    NabySarr said:
    Valley11 said:
    Still think centre mid is light on quality. If Challobah gets a knock we'll be back to Ouma plus Cov or Doc. I like both by the way, but we need more quality if we want to avoid a relegation scrap.

    We had one or both of Cov and Doc playing in pretty much every game last season and stayed up. This season we will need them to play less but they are both good enough to play a role again 

    Think it’s quite disrespectful the way people are talking about them both when they both contributed to us winning plenty of points last season. Docherty away at Sheffield United was probably one of the best individual performances of the season. It’s not like having to play one of them means we will definitely be losing games. Playing 1 of them is absolutely fine, they both have good attributes, it’s just playing them together in this system that is not ideal 
    It's not disrespectful... It's just an opinion about their footballing merit. I hope we can stop trying to dress that up as some kind of moral failing. 
  • SteveACS
    SteveACS Posts: 615
    DOUCHER said:
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    If TC does leave for Preston, I’d expect it to be late in the window. That gives us time to sign another winger, and also get Alli and Apter fully fit. If we lost TC this week I’d be quite concerned about our options for Saturday 

    We also play Preston later this month, surely we don’t let them have TC until after that. And if we start the season well and they don’t maybe TC will re-assess who he’d rather commit too 
    Why would TC want to leave now when Nathan seems to be bringing quality players that judging by the game last Saturday is going to make his season very enjoyable and make his prospects all the much better ?
    I agree, but the best thing for TC to do is probably not commit to signing for us now and see how the season goes. But the club might say to him he either needs to sign a new contract or they will sell him. It’s a difficult situation 
    I don’t see the issue with running the contract down and then it’s up to us to match other offers in a year’s time - each year we stay up, in theory we should be more attractive / able to offer more - I think the shrewd business we have done with these 2 in midfield makes it less likely we need the TC cash to help sort that issue out 
    He could also sign for a foreign team in Jan. 

    I think a couple of teams in Scotland would bite your hand off to get him. 
    No. He could talk to foreign teams in January. His contract runs to the end of the season.
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,430
    Currently now sit at 28 senior players

    Kaminski, Mannion, Brooks

    Ramsay McNamara, Asiimwe 
    Jones, Sichenje, Burke, Koumetio, Bell
    Edwards, Mesik

    Coventry, Docherty, Rakin-Costello, Chalobah, Ouma
    Carey, Knibbs

    Apter, Alli, Campbell, Grant

    Godden, Kelman, Leaburn, Kanu

    Additional players who do not count towards the cap are Mwamba, Fullah, Mbick

    If we are to bring in another winger, 4 senior players need to go.

    Asiimwe and Kanu will definitely leave. That leaves 2 more.

    People also need to be aware that even if we sign a loan player under the age of 21, they still count towards the 25 man squad cap. We can only get around it if we are to permanently sign a player who was under the age of 21 by the turn of this calendar year.

    I really hope TC stays and signs a new deal.

    Personally would be happy to see Apter go on loan or be sold. One of Coventry, Docherty or Rakin-Costello are also likely to have to be moved on. 

    Wouldn’t be surprised if we now see a few out the door over the next 7-10 days and we bring in the final winger in the last 10 days of the window. 
  • Lewis Coaches
    Lewis Coaches Posts: 5,623
    SteveACS said:
    mart77 said:

    At last! Another creditable bit of gossip about Ouma!

    I was beginning to think he was a white elephant...
    Wouldn’t be the first time we have had that in Greenwich. That took a few years to turn it around and make it a money maker.
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 2,565
    Had an update from the Holsgrove camp -

    Still extremely unlikely he comes. The asking price has caused some issues for us but ultimately the player still doesn’t have much interest in Charlton, despite some of his German offers no longer being there 
    No guarantees he hacks it here anyway.

    If we went all out for anyone, I'd want it to be Stanley Mills and Brian De Keersmaecker. Now that would be proper 
    Oxford apparently being very difficult on both understandably due to the embargo. BDK has a release clause rumoured to be 4.5M, If Mills ends up anywhere it will be Preston his dad is gagging for it on their socials, clearly inspired by Linda Apter