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Goalkeeper Tiernan Brooks Signs From Gateshead

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  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 12,067
    fenaddick said:
    Talal said:
    CAFCsayer said:
    So we’ve paid a fee for a third keeper who is in to replace someone who cost us no money had had more experience. 

    Just fuck off 
    Bit ott, he has probably cost about 30 pence... I'd guess AMB wanted to leave to play games at his age and we have signed someone on basically a free transfer as third choice with potential 
    We do not need three senior keepers, he takes up a squad place. It doesn’t matter how much or little money we’ve spent on him it’s a waste 

    Every club in the Championship have 3 keepers. why do you want CAFC to be different ? AMB needs to play after being 3rd choice and his time has come to an end.
    If we only had 2 and they were injured, we'd be able to sign an emergency loan wouldn't we? Which probably wouldn't be any riskier than starting a lad with only national league experience in the championship. 
    We would now but wouldn't have been able to with AMB around. Benefit of this is we can see him and decide if we need to make a move
    Negative is it takes up a squad space.
  • Ha, so Rodwell tells us that Chapple is flying off to all these exotic locations, whereas he's really shoring up business in Gateshead and Stockport.  Clever, very clever.
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 14,661
    Now this is a actual player for the future, not spending 2 mil on a player and sending him back 6 months later. 
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 45,286
    thenewbie said:
    Third choice behind Kaminski and Mannion, but that's not a bad thing and I doubt we've blown whatever budget we had on this one. Not exciting though.
    He's one for the future, donch'ya know?  :smile:


  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 59,324
    edited January 29
    I wonder why we signed him?

    Won't miss his embarrassing feigning injury antics multiple times each game.

    he should be on stage in the west end.”

    “How did he pass a medical with that injury that made him have to get treatment during every game?”


    Ah, that will be why… 🤣
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 9,101
    We're fuckin minted.
  • CaptainRobbo
    CaptainRobbo Posts: 2,738
    I wonder why we signed him?

    Won't miss his embarrassing feigning injury antics multiple times each game.

    he should be on stage in the west end.”

    “How did he pass a medical with that injury that made him have to get treatment during every game?”


    Ah, that will be why… 🤣
    Are we talking about Kaminski here?
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 15,213
    Talal said:
    CAFCsayer said:
    So we’ve paid a fee for a third keeper who is in to replace someone who cost us no money had had more experience. 

    Just fuck off 
    Bit ott, he has probably cost about 30 pence... I'd guess AMB wanted to leave to play games at his age and we have signed someone on basically a free transfer as third choice with potential 
    We do not need three senior keepers, he takes up a squad place. It doesn’t matter how much or little money we’ve spent on him it’s a waste 

    Every club in the Championship have 3 keepers. why do you want CAFC to be different ? AMB needs to play after being 3rd choice and his time has come to an end.
    If we only had 2 and they were injured, we'd be able to sign an emergency loan wouldn't we? Which probably wouldn't be any riskier than starting a lad with only national league experience in the championship. 
    It's better to have a keeper in house than rely on the possibility of a good enough emergency loan being available. Every team wants to have three keepers anyway because it allows you to have a senior keeper on the bench in case of emergency. If your keeper gets injured during a game or gets sent off then you're relying on a youth keeper being on the bench if your first keeper is injured. That can completely turn a game against you.
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 12,067
    Talal said:
    CAFCsayer said:
    So we’ve paid a fee for a third keeper who is in to replace someone who cost us no money had had more experience. 

    Just fuck off 
    Bit ott, he has probably cost about 30 pence... I'd guess AMB wanted to leave to play games at his age and we have signed someone on basically a free transfer as third choice with potential 
    We do not need three senior keepers, he takes up a squad place. It doesn’t matter how much or little money we’ve spent on him it’s a waste 

    Every club in the Championship have 3 keepers. why do you want CAFC to be different ? AMB needs to play after being 3rd choice and his time has come to an end.
    If we only had 2 and they were injured, we'd be able to sign an emergency loan wouldn't we? Which probably wouldn't be any riskier than starting a lad with only national league experience in the championship. 
    It's better to have a keeper in house than rely on the possibility of a good enough emergency loan being available. Every team wants to have three keepers anyway because it allows you to have a senior keeper on the bench in case of emergency. If your keeper gets injured during a game or gets sent off then you're relying on a youth keeper being on the bench if your first keeper is injured. That can completely turn a game against you.
    I get that with someone like AMB who has had plenty of EFL experience but this guy has none, so is it any less of a risk? Though admittedly I have absolutely no idea how good he is! 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 22,811
    Talal said:
    Talal said:
    CAFCsayer said:
    So we’ve paid a fee for a third keeper who is in to replace someone who cost us no money had had more experience. 

    Just fuck off 
    Bit ott, he has probably cost about 30 pence... I'd guess AMB wanted to leave to play games at his age and we have signed someone on basically a free transfer as third choice with potential 
    We do not need three senior keepers, he takes up a squad place. It doesn’t matter how much or little money we’ve spent on him it’s a waste 

    Every club in the Championship have 3 keepers. why do you want CAFC to be different ? AMB needs to play after being 3rd choice and his time has come to an end.
    If we only had 2 and they were injured, we'd be able to sign an emergency loan wouldn't we? Which probably wouldn't be any riskier than starting a lad with only national league experience in the championship. 
    It's better to have a keeper in house than rely on the possibility of a good enough emergency loan being available. Every team wants to have three keepers anyway because it allows you to have a senior keeper on the bench in case of emergency. If your keeper gets injured during a game or gets sent off then you're relying on a youth keeper being on the bench if your first keeper is injured. That can completely turn a game against you.
    I get that with someone like AMB who has had plenty of EFL experience but this guy has none, so is it any less of a risk? Though admittedly I have absolutely no idea how good he is! 
    Given we’re now at 4 loans and presumably will bring in another we wouldn’t be able to play an emergency loan without one of the other loanees missing out on the squad. That’s probably a factor in all of this 

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  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,967
    Talal said:
    Talal said:
    CAFCsayer said:
    So we’ve paid a fee for a third keeper who is in to replace someone who cost us no money had had more experience. 

    Just fuck off 
    Bit ott, he has probably cost about 30 pence... I'd guess AMB wanted to leave to play games at his age and we have signed someone on basically a free transfer as third choice with potential 
    We do not need three senior keepers, he takes up a squad place. It doesn’t matter how much or little money we’ve spent on him it’s a waste 

    Every club in the Championship have 3 keepers. why do you want CAFC to be different ? AMB needs to play after being 3rd choice and his time has come to an end.
    If we only had 2 and they were injured, we'd be able to sign an emergency loan wouldn't we? Which probably wouldn't be any riskier than starting a lad with only national league experience in the championship. 
    It's better to have a keeper in house than rely on the possibility of a good enough emergency loan being available. Every team wants to have three keepers anyway because it allows you to have a senior keeper on the bench in case of emergency. If your keeper gets injured during a game or gets sent off then you're relying on a youth keeper being on the bench if your first keeper is injured. That can completely turn a game against you.
    I get that with someone like AMB who has had plenty of EFL experience but this guy has none, so is it any less of a risk? Though admittedly I have absolutely no idea how good he is! 
    He's not even cover, he's cover FOR the cover. If Kaminski is out, Mannion gets the nod and Tiernan is only on the bench. Can't see many EFL experienced keepers being happy with being third choice on Charlton wages - AMB wasn't, for one.
  • CaptainRobbo
    CaptainRobbo Posts: 2,738
    Talal said:
    Talal said:
    CAFCsayer said:
    So we’ve paid a fee for a third keeper who is in to replace someone who cost us no money had had more experience. 

    Just fuck off 
    Bit ott, he has probably cost about 30 pence... I'd guess AMB wanted to leave to play games at his age and we have signed someone on basically a free transfer as third choice with potential 
    We do not need three senior keepers, he takes up a squad place. It doesn’t matter how much or little money we’ve spent on him it’s a waste 

    Every club in the Championship have 3 keepers. why do you want CAFC to be different ? AMB needs to play after being 3rd choice and his time has come to an end.
    If we only had 2 and they were injured, we'd be able to sign an emergency loan wouldn't we? Which probably wouldn't be any riskier than starting a lad with only national league experience in the championship. 
    It's better to have a keeper in house than rely on the possibility of a good enough emergency loan being available. Every team wants to have three keepers anyway because it allows you to have a senior keeper on the bench in case of emergency. If your keeper gets injured during a game or gets sent off then you're relying on a youth keeper being on the bench if your first keeper is injured. That can completely turn a game against you.
    I get that with someone like AMB who has had plenty of EFL experience but this guy has none, so is it any less of a risk? Though admittedly I have absolutely no idea how good he is 

  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 12,067
    thenewbie said:
    Talal said:
    Talal said:
    CAFCsayer said:
    So we’ve paid a fee for a third keeper who is in to replace someone who cost us no money had had more experience. 

    Just fuck off 
    Bit ott, he has probably cost about 30 pence... I'd guess AMB wanted to leave to play games at his age and we have signed someone on basically a free transfer as third choice with potential 
    We do not need three senior keepers, he takes up a squad place. It doesn’t matter how much or little money we’ve spent on him it’s a waste 

    Every club in the Championship have 3 keepers. why do you want CAFC to be different ? AMB needs to play after being 3rd choice and his time has come to an end.
    If we only had 2 and they were injured, we'd be able to sign an emergency loan wouldn't we? Which probably wouldn't be any riskier than starting a lad with only national league experience in the championship. 
    It's better to have a keeper in house than rely on the possibility of a good enough emergency loan being available. Every team wants to have three keepers anyway because it allows you to have a senior keeper on the bench in case of emergency. If your keeper gets injured during a game or gets sent off then you're relying on a youth keeper being on the bench if your first keeper is injured. That can completely turn a game against you.
    I get that with someone like AMB who has had plenty of EFL experience but this guy has none, so is it any less of a risk? Though admittedly I have absolutely no idea how good he is! 
    He's not even cover, he's cover FOR the cover. If Kaminski is out, Mannion gets the nod and Tiernan is only on the bench. Can't see many EFL experienced keepers being happy with being third choice on Charlton wages - AMB wasn't, for one.
    That's kind of my point. We're using a squad place for a keeper with no experience who is very unlikely to play. In the unlikely event it's needed, I'd rather go down the emergency loan route and use a squad place for an outfield player that might improve us. Just my opinion, hopefully Brooks develops well here.
  • sm
    sm Posts: 3,063
    Talk about a budget signing. 
    Sorba Thomas came from Non-league and done okay. You do get some gems. 
    As did Nick Pope.
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 15,213
    Talal said:
    Talal said:
    CAFCsayer said:
    So we’ve paid a fee for a third keeper who is in to replace someone who cost us no money had had more experience. 

    Just fuck off 
    Bit ott, he has probably cost about 30 pence... I'd guess AMB wanted to leave to play games at his age and we have signed someone on basically a free transfer as third choice with potential 
    We do not need three senior keepers, he takes up a squad place. It doesn’t matter how much or little money we’ve spent on him it’s a waste 

    Every club in the Championship have 3 keepers. why do you want CAFC to be different ? AMB needs to play after being 3rd choice and his time has come to an end.
    If we only had 2 and they were injured, we'd be able to sign an emergency loan wouldn't we? Which probably wouldn't be any riskier than starting a lad with only national league experience in the championship. 
    It's better to have a keeper in house than rely on the possibility of a good enough emergency loan being available. Every team wants to have three keepers anyway because it allows you to have a senior keeper on the bench in case of emergency. If your keeper gets injured during a game or gets sent off then you're relying on a youth keeper being on the bench if your first keeper is injured. That can completely turn a game against you.
    I get that with someone like AMB who has had plenty of EFL experience but this guy has none, so is it any less of a risk? Though admittedly I have absolutely no idea how good he is! 
    Yes, definitely, because the alternative to Brooks, who at least has over 50 National League appearances as a number one, is one of our kids. We want to send them out on loan to develop as players but you can't do that when they're on the bench. Reid has been sent out on loan so you're asking a teenager from the academy potentially to come on in a Championship game. AMB obviously wanted to leave, which as a 26 year old third choice is fair enough, so we either bring in a third choice who trains with the other keepers and the defence every week who we are comfortable throwing in in a crisis and developing him while we have him, or risk throwing a kid in during a game and then having to feverishly try and find an emergency loan from another club and praying that a decent one is available. Much more risky.
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 12,067
    Talal said:
    Talal said:
    CAFCsayer said:
    So we’ve paid a fee for a third keeper who is in to replace someone who cost us no money had had more experience. 

    Just fuck off 
    Bit ott, he has probably cost about 30 pence... I'd guess AMB wanted to leave to play games at his age and we have signed someone on basically a free transfer as third choice with potential 
    We do not need three senior keepers, he takes up a squad place. It doesn’t matter how much or little money we’ve spent on him it’s a waste 

    Every club in the Championship have 3 keepers. why do you want CAFC to be different ? AMB needs to play after being 3rd choice and his time has come to an end.
    If we only had 2 and they were injured, we'd be able to sign an emergency loan wouldn't we? Which probably wouldn't be any riskier than starting a lad with only national league experience in the championship. 
    It's better to have a keeper in house than rely on the possibility of a good enough emergency loan being available. Every team wants to have three keepers anyway because it allows you to have a senior keeper on the bench in case of emergency. If your keeper gets injured during a game or gets sent off then you're relying on a youth keeper being on the bench if your first keeper is injured. That can completely turn a game against you.
    I get that with someone like AMB who has had plenty of EFL experience but this guy has none, so is it any less of a risk? Though admittedly I have absolutely no idea how good he is! 
    Yes, definitely, because the alternative to Brooks, who at least has over 50 National League appearances as a number one, is one of our kids. We want to send them out on loan to develop as players but you can't do that when they're on the bench. Reid has been sent out on loan so you're asking a teenager from the academy potentially to come on in a Championship game. AMB obviously wanted to leave, which as a 26 year old third choice is fair enough, so we either bring in a third choice who trains with the other keepers and the defence every week who we are comfortable throwing in in a crisis and developing him while we have him, or risk throwing a kid in during a game and then having to feverishly try and find an emergency loan from another club and praying that a decent one is available. Much more risky.
    Okay, I respectfully disagree given the chances of Brooks playing a minute are slim and the benefits of signing another outfield player could define our season. Anyway will leave it there as just repeating same points now.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 43,431
    Before we write the lad off because he's cheap and from non-league I can think of one keeper we signed from Bury Town and who played for the likes of Harrow Borough, Welling United, Cambridge United, Aldershot Town, York City and Bury. He has gone on to become number one at two Premier League clubs and play for England. 
  • Dartaddick
    Dartaddick Posts: 133
    Bet AMB is impressed with that...
    Doubt he cares.  Just glad to be away.
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  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 34,555
    I’m not sure of the rules but would he take up a squad place due to his age?

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  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 22,811
    I’m not sure of the rules but would he take up a squad place due to his age?
    yes, you have to be u21 to not use a place 
  • Given the length of contract given to Brooks it seems the club have little faith in any of the under 21 or even under 18's making the grade.
  • limeygent
    limeygent Posts: 3,230
    Could turn out to be the best business we've done this window.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 24,795
    I get we're playing a Premier League team, but no ta
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 22,811
    sam3110 said:
    I get we're playing a Premier League team, but no ta
    Was never signed to play a game, put in this scenario because Mannion mysteriously gets injured in transfer windows and TK wants out. Think Brooks is one of the last players I’d be digging out tonight, if anything I feel sorry for him 
  • LittleAddick
    LittleAddick Posts: 944
    An interesting example of the differences in keeper quality across the leagues.

    Being a non-league keeper he won't have faced a shot with the sting that their 4th goal had, and to a lesser extent their 1st.

    Clearly absolutely nowhere near Championship level but he's our equivalent of Carson at Man City I suppose. Not supposed to play!



  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 11,282
    fenaddick said:
    sam3110 said:
    I get we're playing a Premier League team, but no ta
    Was never signed to play a game, put in this scenario because Mannion mysteriously gets injured in transfer windows and TK wants out. Think Brooks is one of the last players I’d be digging out tonight, if anything I feel sorry for him 
    A professional goalkeeper should be able to save a shot that is straight at him. 

    I have previously posted that he should have played against Swansea last season and Cheltenham this year. If he had, he might not have been a rabbit in the headlights 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 24,795
    fenaddick said:
    sam3110 said:
    I get we're playing a Premier League team, but no ta
    Was never signed to play a game, put in this scenario because Mannion mysteriously gets injured in transfer windows and TK wants out. Think Brooks is one of the last players I’d be digging out tonight, if anything I feel sorry for him 
    Not digging him out per se, just didn't see anything that suggests he's going to make it as a championship keeper, and ultimately that's what he is meant to be, whether he's third choice or not. 

    The first goal goes through his hands, one beats him easily at his near post too, he just didn't seem to have anything to him that suggests he is actually better than Kaminski, as Jones tried to allude to a couple of weeks ago. 
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 17,732
    I have no idea why Okonkwo didn’t play. Why throw a young lad in to this match? That’s his confidence shot and fans now think he’s shite.