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CAFC Supporter Thread For Doomsters, Pessimists, Hopefuls, Optimists, Super Optimists & Deranged

Addick Addict
Addick Addict Posts: 43,428
edited September 2 in General Charlton

Now that we've played three matches and we've completed our recruitment, it would be good for people to nail their prediction for this season to the mast.

Each of the above "types" of CAFC supporter has been allocated a points target, based on the very upper end of historical points needed to achieve that prediction:

Doomster (Relegation - 46 points and below - so no more than another 37 points or 0.86 points per game) - this has been a false start, we've recruited poorly and there are 21 teams better than us

Pessimist (Survival and only just at that - 52 points so another 43 points or 1.00 point per game) - you see finishing outside the relegation zone as success

Hopeful - (Top half - 65 points so another 56 points or 1.30 points per game) - you'd love us to have a great season but think top half is the acceptable aim

Optimist - (Top 8 - 73 points so another 64 points or 1.49 points per game) - if we can make the top half than why not the play offs given it is now the top 8?

Super Optimist - (Top 2 and automatic promotion - 95 points so another 86 points or 2 points per game) - it's between us and one other club

Deranged - (Champions - 102 points so another 93 points or 2.16 points per game) - we are the best team in the division and it would be a disappointment not to prove that

It will be interesting to see where people sit right now but also, over the course of the season, whether they change from, for example, being a Realist to a super Optimist or from being a Hopeful to a Doomster

So, are you a Doomster, Pessimist, Hopeful, Optimist, Super Optimist or Deranged?

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  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 43,428
    I'm an Optimist as I see no reason why a top 8 place should not be achievable
  • FreshHaddock
    FreshHaddock Posts: 198
    I am cleary deranged (note lower case "d") but in the context of this thread I am an Optimist. Shoot for the stars and you might just hit the ceiling.
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 20,129
    No change - still more than happy with survival and Championship football next season 
  • BoPeepAddick
    BoPeepAddick Posts: 209
    Think I'm a Optimistic Realist!!
  • Leeds_Addick
    Leeds_Addick Posts: 4,957
    I'm hopeful but I felt this way at this point last year too. We have much better depth but a couple of unlucky injuries to key players could completely derail things - as it could for any side to be fair.

    If we get lucky with injuries and our more recent additions (Nkeng, Bindon and including Mwamba & Mbick) turn out to be as good as those we've seen so far (Koumetio, Mesik, Chalobah) then I don't see why top half isn't very achievable.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 11,052
    Hopeful. Think midtable is an absolutely fine progression. 
  • charltonnick
    charltonnick Posts: 3,157
    Now the window has closed I'm a it more positive. Moved up from a pessimist to a pessimist/hopeful
  • LoOkOuT
    LoOkOuT Posts: 11,215
    Optimist. We’re in a very good place. 
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 24,293
    Just under Hopeful.

    I think we'll get about 60 points, be midtable and safe much earlier than last year, which is absolutely fine (and progress).
  • Karim_myBagheri
    Karim_myBagheri Posts: 14,424
    Pessimist going towards hopeful so pragmatic I guess. I think we got enough about us to stay up. Maybe we could push for mid table. 

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  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 39,531
    Expecting lower mid table, Hopeful for top
    half, dreaming of the Optimists being right.
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 22,071
    Hopeful
  • Killarahales
    Killarahales Posts: 1,200
    Hopeful. Have got a handicap bet with Sky Bet at +32 points for top spot so am hopeful on that front too.
  • AberystwythAddick
    AberystwythAddick Posts: 2,435
    Survival is not a pessimistic view so survival 
  • Slartibartfast
    Slartibartfast Posts: 1,166
    Optimist/deranged. Hoping for top 3 as have an each way accy with us in it at 100/1:-)
  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,983
    Realist - in between pessimist and hopeful. 

    More points and higher finish than last season. For me that’s the most important thing, continuing with improvement every season as we have so far with Nathan. 
  • Coveredendchoir
    Coveredendchoir Posts: 341
    I’ve changed from pessimist to hopeful. Great transfer window and a great start.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 43,428
    AberystwythAddick said:
    Survival is not a pessimistic view so survival 
    Appreciate that. I should say that I framed the descriptions based on our start. 52 points is the very top end of points needed so, given we have nine points from three games and beaten the favourites to win the title, to take just a point a game for the rest of the season could be deemed pessimistic. 

    As I say, people will probably migrate from one to another and I might be a pessimist (based on my descriptions) in a few games time too! 
  • CL_Phantom
    CL_Phantom Posts: 6,166
    Similar to Scoham, I'm hopeful but think we'll be lower mid.

    We've had a good start but we did last year too, think our squads stepped up in ability but think a lot of us are still seriously underestimating the quality of the league, especially once its in full swing.


  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 6,696
    I would love anywhere around 12-16th and think that is very achievable 

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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 101,531
    Pessimist / Hopeful
    Survival remains the target, how we do that I dont really care... I suspect we're going to copy our form from last season and we'll slowly fall back... I'm hopeful though that we can kick on and finish higher than where we finished last season... But if we dont (and at least finish 21st), then I'll be happy.
  • Arthur_Trudgill
    Arthur_Trudgill Posts: 625
    We need steady progress, overachieve v budget, play football that fans like to watch, be financially sustainable.

    So Hopeful.
  • stockportugaladdick
    stockportugaladdick Posts: 1,277
    Hopeful.
    Would be well happy with mid table obscurity.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 22,809
    edited September 2
    Probably a pessimistic hopeful. I think there's real quality to this team but would be delighted to hit 15th and happy with survival
  • wolfgang
    wolfgang Posts: 1,282
    edited September 2
    I do not qualify for any of the categories eligible to post in this thread. I am a sane realist.
  • wolfgang
    wolfgang Posts: 1,282
    wolfgang said:
    I do not qualify for any of the categories eligible to post in this thread. I am a sane realist.
    Oops! I see you sneaked in realists in your last line of text.

    I think we will finish 17th. If not there, then somewhere between 14th and 20th. Almost no chance of relegation after this window.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 43,428
    wolfgang said:
    wolfgang said:
    I do not qualify for any of the categories eligible to post in this thread. I am a sane realist.
    Oops! I see you sneaked in realists in your last line of text.

    I think we will finish 17th. If not there, then somewhere between 14th and 20th. Almost no chance of relegation after this window.
    I'm going to change that because it doesn't marry up with the descriptions above but get where you think we'll finish. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 36,844
    Sorry, but my category is not listed. I'm in between Pessimist & Hopefull.  I think we'll be safe from relegation but top half is a bit of a stretch. 

    60 points & somewhere between 14th & 18th.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 43,428
    golfaddick said:
    Sorry, but my category is not listed. I'm in between Pessimist & Hopefull.  I think we'll be safe from relegation but top half is a bit of a stretch. 

    60 points & somewhere between 14th & 18th.
    Although I set the parameter at 65 points, 60 points has been enough to get sides into the top half, on occasions, in the last decade
  • Whinger
    Whinger Posts: 30
    I'm an optomist but think we will just miss out on automatic.  In the play-offs, I'd hope we field our U21s because the EPL is currently a swamp of faeces.

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