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POST-MATCH THREAD: Stoke City v Charlton Athletic: Saturday 5th September 2026: KO 12:30
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Of course i know that, but look at Josh in particular, he missed most of last season, and still no sign of him coming back soon.....AberystwythAddick said:
There’s no logic in rushing players back, it’s so early in the season if they come back too early and get injured again then what?eastterrace6168 said:I know Collins' injury is season ending iirc, but when the fu*k are Josh, Kayne, Nathaniel and Billy gonna be fit, not to mention Matty and Charlie, our injuries seem to take an age to recover..1 -
I still think we had it in us to win that were it not for the head loss after the horrendous penalty decision.
I struggle to criticise players for a head loss like that as its exactly how I would react. But a few more leaders on the pitch with cool heads keeping things controlled and we go into half time 1 goal down and every chance of getting back into it. Partly with the number of players we have missing we inevitably have lost some leadership and experience.10 -
Yeah it’s a bad injury. He needs to be given every opportunity to limit that happening again. That means him playing when he’s fully fit. We know he’s training and we know NJ thinks he’ll be back by the international break.eastterrace6168 said:
Of course i know that, but look at Josh in particular, he missed most of last season...AberystwythAddick said:
There’s no logic in rushing players back, it’s so early in the season if they come back too early and get injured again then what?eastterrace6168 said:I know Collins' injury is season ending iirc, but when the fu*k are Josh, Kayne, Nathaniel and Billy gonna be fit, not to mention Matty and Charlie, our injuries seem to take an age to recover..1 -
Crap day for us and Qpr, they lost Kone and Chair to injuries today.4
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AberystwythAddick said:
Yeah it’s a bad injury. He needs to be given every opportunity to limit that happening again. That means him playing when he’s fully fit. We know he’s training and we know NJ thinks he’ll be back by the international break.eastterrace6168 said:
Of course i know that, but look at Josh in particular, he missed most of last season...AberystwythAddick said:
There’s no logic in rushing players back, it’s so early in the season if they come back too early and get injured again then what?eastterrace6168 said:I know Collins' injury is season ending iirc, but when the fu*k are Josh, Kayne, Nathaniel and Billy gonna be fit, not to mention Matty and Charlie, our injuries seem to take an age to recover..
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EdwardsElfsborgAddick said:AberystwythAddick said:
Yeah it’s a bad injury. He needs to be given every opportunity to limit that happening again. That means him playing when he’s fully fit. We know he’s training and we know NJ thinks he’ll be back by the international break.eastterrace6168 said:
Of course i know that, but look at Josh in particular, he missed most of last season...AberystwythAddick said:
There’s no logic in rushing players back, it’s so early in the season if they come back too early and get injured again then what?eastterrace6168 said:I know Collins' injury is season ending iirc, but when the fu*k are Josh, Kayne, Nathaniel and Billy gonna be fit, not to mention Matty and Charlie, our injuries seem to take an age to recover..
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In at least a few of those they haven't been/won't be actually out for as long as it seems, but the amount of games they miss due to scheduling makes it feel like ages.eastterrace6168 said:I know Collins' injury is season ending iirc, but when the fu*k are Josh, Kayne, Nathaniel and Billy gonna be fit, not to mention Matty and Charlie, our injuries seem to take an age to recover for some reason...2 -
Think he’s trying to crack a joke…international break he meant…🤦AberystwythAddick said:
EdwardsElfsborgAddick said:Ok AberystwythAddick said:
Yeah it’s a bad injury. He needs to be given every opportunity to limit that happening again. That means him playing when he’s fully fit. We know he’s training and we know NJ thinks he’ll be back by the international break.eastterrace6168 said:
Of course i know that, but look at Josh in particular, he missed most of last season...AberystwythAddick said:
There’s no logic in rushing players back, it’s so early in the season if they come back too early and get injured again then what?eastterrace6168 said:I know Collins' injury is season ending iirc, but when the fu*k are Josh, Kayne, Nathaniel and Billy gonna be fit, not to mention Matty and Charlie, our injuries seem to take an age to recover..
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You are ridiculous.Karim_myBagheri said:
You are a much better person than I and many others on here.. I would be having a go at him for quite a few things after forking out no doubt well over a hundred quid to see that capitulationChef_addick said:NJ is on my train home, laptop out watching the game back, shook his hand and said we go again Wednesday as I passed him, he sort of smiled but he's clearly pissed off.7 -
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Nathan not holding back in his interview with Louis. He said my players threw me under the bus today.0
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He's deffo been a good manger for us in his time but some of his reactions in post match interviews do baffle me sometimes. Can't see how making comments like that can benefit anyoneRufisonfire said:Nathan not holding back in his interview with Louis. He said my players threw me under the bus today.11 -
Presume he hasn't said anything about who is due back from injury for Weds?Rufisonfire said:Nathan not holding back in his interview with Louis. He said my players threw me under the bus today.0 -
Did I miss something?cantersaddick said:Anyone surprised that someone who would make a video hating on disabled people would also referee like a complete twat.0 -
Yeah I got woooshedeastterrace6168 said:
Think he’s trying to crack a joke…international break he meant…🤦AberystwythAddick said:
EdwardsElfsborgAddick said:Ok AberystwythAddick said:
Yeah it’s a bad injury. He needs to be given every opportunity to limit that happening again. That means him playing when he’s fully fit. We know he’s training and we know NJ thinks he’ll be back by the international break.eastterrace6168 said:
Of course i know that, but look at Josh in particular, he missed most of last season...AberystwythAddick said:
There’s no logic in rushing players back, it’s so early in the season if they come back too early and get injured again then what?eastterrace6168 said:I know Collins' injury is season ending iirc, but when the fu*k are Josh, Kayne, Nathaniel and Billy gonna be fit, not to mention Matty and Charlie, our injuries seem to take an age to recover..
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Really ? You'd think they would wait until after the game in the showersDugdaleclass said:A bogey ground and a clown of a ref plus a midfield of strangers...not a surprising result really. Stoke had one of those days where the dice rolled their way.
I for one hate the way the Declan Rices of the world get away with buggery at corners, but this really was a soft call by the ref for the penalty. However the response from our lads was poor. Lloyd Jones really needs to step up as skipper and get people's heads right fast.
Strangely, at 4-0 up the Stoke players were putting in tackles and digs as if they were on the wrong side of a hiding and the assault on Jones was just that - ABH. Yet the ref didn't get his cards out. But he booked Leaburn for an innocuous head to head clash. Bizarre.
The corner that never was just confirmed that the officials were blatant incompetents and Mac ran into a trap of his own making waving his arms at the clown who was always going to have the last laugh.
Fair play to the lads playing out the game with 10 particularly Coventry who played like two men.
Has anyone told our Kenneth 
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Trying to get a rise out of players. It’s up to them to prove him wrong.Cafctekkers said:
He's deffo been a good manger for us in his time but some of his reactions in post match interviews do baffle me sometimes. Can't see how making comments like that can benefit anyoneRufisonfire said:Nathan not holding back in his interview with Louis. He said my players threw me under the bus today.1 -
I think you mean fall guy.golfaddick said:
Your paragraph about Ouma is spot on. No idea why there always has to be a fool guy on here, but as soon as your name is black then that's it, you're done for.Clem_Snide said:Started well and I was actually thinking to myself, how it was nice to finally see a Charlton team that looked like it was a physical match for a traditionally strong, powerful outfit.
Then Madley decided to get involved. That is the softest of soft penalties. 9/10 that isn't given and if VAR is in the Championship then it is overturned as they were both holding, it is just that the Stoke bloke decided to throw himself to the floor.
I am not for one moment saying Ouma had a good game, but as I said on the match thread the pile on was embarassing and seems to fit this Charlton Fan obsession with having someone to scapegoat and slag off. He clearly wasn't passing to Grant for the second, it was an attempted clearance that hit our player and dropped perfectly for Stoke. If you are going to call out Ouma why are you not equally questioning Skipp? A player established in this country who has played loads in the premier league and championship was utterly anonymous.
TBH I am more concerned with how poor Bindon has looked in his 2 games. His weak header gave West Brom a goal on Weds and he completely went to sleep for the 3rd goal today. Stood and watched the bloke. So he is currently 2 games played, 2 goals on him.
The 4th goal sums up a day when everything that could go wrong did. Their player was jumping out of the way of a shot going wide and it clips his heel and goes in.
All that being said the collective mental collapse for 20 minutes after the penalty stunk of Charlton teams of yesteryear.
Back to the referee and Linesman, I actually think the corner not given from the back pass was up there as one of the worst decisions I have ever seen. It was 3 yards over the line when their keeper cleared it.
I left the 'hi-lights' running at full time as I wanted to see McNamara's sending off again. An absolute joke of a decision. He was sent off for pointing at the goal which was interpreted as waving his hand asking for a card. Utter nonsense.0 -
Note to NJ…we are not a Man City or Liverpool…we don’t have strength in depth….play your best XI available12
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I can't articulate how much I hate this. Having a go at him because we lost. Shit like that serves no purpose other than causing friction between the manager and fansKarim_myBagheri said:
You are a much better person than I and many others on here.. I would be having a go at him for quite a few things after forking out no doubt well over a hundred quid to see that capitulationChef_addick said:NJ is on my train home, laptop out watching the game back, shook his hand and said we go again Wednesday as I passed him, he sort of smiled but he's clearly pissed off.18 -
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I agree with this, many of his decisions weren't clearly and obviously wrong, but he was inconsistent.lordromford said:
To be fair, if you look at the penalty or the red card in isolation, they may be justifiable. The problem, as I mentioned earlier, was consistency. And that’s both consistency with what all the other refs in the league are doing (giving a pen rather than speaking to people wrestling in the box, then retaking the corner), and consistency throughout the game (bookings for us, not bookings for them, often for worse offences).Garrymanilow said:Really looking forward to the reaction if PeterGage comes on here later and tells us why all Madley's decisions were in fact correct
The only exception is the corner that wasn’t given, which was absolutely, clear as day, a wrong decision. But that doesn’t necessarily make the decision to book McNamara wrong.
Dont get me wrong, I’m not defending the ref. He had a honking game. But individual decisions are defendable.And whether you agree with @PeterGage or not, he gives his opinion in good faith and I respect his expertise. I understand why it might sometimes seem like he’s defending refs all the time, but that’s often because he brings a perspective we might not all have.
Edit: I should add, in no way would I presume to speak for @PeterGage
I’ve no idea what his opinion is on these incidents.1 -
Thought this before the game when I saw the team sheet, absolutely ridiculous.Fortune 82nd Minute said:Well that was a very unwelcome wake up call.
I was just beginning to think Jones had put together a strong squad that would not have to look over its shoulder. Should have known better.
The more I see of the penalty, the bigger the joke it is. Both players were holding, its the sort of challenge that goes on all the time. Disgraceful decision to give a penalty.
I just don't understand why modern players have to be rested after only 4 games. Jones decided to go down that path today and he's got it terribly wrong. And I hope he admits it.
Some awful performances but a special mention for Apter who managed to fall over about 4 times in his brief sub appearance. Honestly, he will never make it in the Championship.
As for subbing TC who is a definite game changer for us this season has NJ lost his mind ? ( I guess the starting line up confirms this)5 -
Well I think everyone else had.wolfgang said:Was Campbell injured, or jut being saved for Wednesday? If the latter, surely Jones had not written the Stoke game off that early?3 -
We play Saturday midweek Saturday midweek Saturday midweek. We can’t play our best 11 every week players need to restct_addick said:Note to NJ…we are not a Man City or Liverpool…we don’t have strength in depth….play your best XI available8 -
Great support, woeful ref and lino, truly so bad you wondered if they were bent.Ouma, Binden and Grant all looking error prone amongst flashes of decent play. Hope they all get a bit sharper in the next few games.Hopefully Mcnamara red gets swiftly rescinded.Not a bad day out despite the result1
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When we get to next weekend and we have another six points on the board, today will just be like a dim and distant memory, and quickly...not forgotten, but certainly left in the box marked not to be opened again...3
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To be fair he defends them most of the time, so maybe he’s hoping to get a reaction.AberystwythAddick said:
Trying to get a rise out of players. It’s up to them to prove him wrong.Cafctekkers said:
He's deffo been a good manger for us in his time but some of his reactions in post match interviews do baffle me sometimes. Can't see how making comments like that can benefit anyoneRufisonfire said:Nathan not holding back in his interview with Louis. He said my players threw me under the bus today.1 -
eastterrace6168 said:
Think he’s trying to crack a joke…international break he meant…🤦AberystwythAddick said:
EdwardsElfsborgAddick said:Ok AberystwythAddick said:
Yeah it’s a bad injury. He needs to be given every opportunity to limit that happening again. That means him playing when he’s fully fit. We know he’s training and we know NJ thinks he’ll be back by the international break.eastterrace6168 said:
Of course i know that, but look at Josh in particular, he missed most of last season...AberystwythAddick said:
There’s no logic in rushing players back, it’s so early in the season if they come back too early and get injured again then what?eastterrace6168 said:I know Collins' injury is season ending iirc, but when the fu*k are Josh, Kayne, Nathaniel and Billy gonna be fit, not to mention Matty and Charlie, our injuries seem to take an age to recover..
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Learnt everything off of you mate
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Invoice in the post already...ElfsborgAddick said:eastterrace6168 said:
Think he’s trying to crack a joke…international break he meant…🤦AberystwythAddick said:
EdwardsElfsborgAddick said:Ok AberystwythAddick said:
Yeah it’s a bad injury. He needs to be given every opportunity to limit that happening again. That means him playing when he’s fully fit. We know he’s training and we know NJ thinks he’ll be back by the international break.eastterrace6168 said:
Of course i know that, but look at Josh in particular, he missed most of last season...AberystwythAddick said:
There’s no logic in rushing players back, it’s so early in the season if they come back too early and get injured again then what?eastterrace6168 said:I know Collins' injury is season ending iirc, but when the fu*k are Josh, Kayne, Nathaniel and Billy gonna be fit, not to mention Matty and Charlie, our injuries seem to take an age to recover..
Which one?
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siblers said:
I can't articulate how much I hate this. Having a go at him because we lost. Shit like that serves no purpose other than causing friction between the manager and fansKarim_myBagheri said:
You are a much better person than I and many others on here.. I would be having a go at him for quite a few things after forking out no doubt well over a hundred quid to see that capitulationChef_addick said:NJ is on my train home, laptop out watching the game back, shook his hand and said we go again Wednesday as I passed him, he sort of smiled but he's clearly pissed off.Particularly if Jones, as he would be entitled to, gave him a stroppy response.Then said supporter would be slagging off the manager for standing up for himself.0
