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A CHARLTON UPDATE FROM LARRY’S MOBILE BAR

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  • IdleHans
    IdleHans Posts: 11,806

  • R0TW
    R0TW Posts: 2,072
    Have two tills
  • CafcWest said:
    It sounds like a set of commercial terms that are set out to offset any loss of sale from the catering suppliers own offering. I’m afraid that’s business, whether it feels right or wrong given your position as a fan.

    I am sure you have worked through the numbers to understand whether the new terms are commercially viable - if they aren’t, and the operator is not willing to negotiate, then it’s plan b or nothing.

    What I would say to many on here is that the complaints about the current provision of food and drink are well established, and yet as consumers you continue to put money into the operators till. There is no better way for a company to understand the issue in its service than to see sales plummet.

    And yet many of the complainers will still be in the “Fan’s Bar” at the next match, eager to secure their table.

    Bite the bullet and stop. 
    That is so true.  Only issue is that there is so few local options.  The Oak or the Rose of Denmark are both 10-15 minutes walk away so the onsite options are all there is - especially for an aging fanbase.  Bit like bars in an airport - they have a captive audience and are exploiting that.
    The Oak was only 3 minutes away the last time I went.
    Only 2 minutes for people with normal length legs.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 34,668
    Chunes said:
    My mate once suggested meeting at Oliver's Wine Bar in Greenwich. Let me tell you, if you want to soak up the pre-match atmosphere, you'd be better off going to a library in Penzance. 
    Are there still such things as “wine bars” run by people called Oliver?

    Or was this suggestion made in about 1988?
    Is there still a library in Penzance?
  • CafcWest said:
    It sounds like a set of commercial terms that are set out to offset any loss of sale from the catering suppliers own offering. I’m afraid that’s business, whether it feels right or wrong given your position as a fan.

    I am sure you have worked through the numbers to understand whether the new terms are commercially viable - if they aren’t, and the operator is not willing to negotiate, then it’s plan b or nothing.

    What I would say to many on here is that the complaints about the current provision of food and drink are well established, and yet as consumers you continue to put money into the operators till. There is no better way for a company to understand the issue in its service than to see sales plummet.

    And yet many of the complainers will still be in the “Fan’s Bar” at the next match, eager to secure their table.

    Bite the bullet and stop. 
    That is so true.  Only issue is that there is so few local options.  The Oak or the Rose of Denmark are both 10-15 minutes walk away so the onsite options are all there is - especially for an aging fanbase.  Bit like bars in an airport - they have a captive audience and are exploiting that.
    The Oak was only 3 minutes away the last time I went.
    Only 2 minutes for people with normal length legs.
    "Normal length"
     :D:D  
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 5,770
    Must say, my view is that contract talks are a personal matter between you and the club that doesn't need airing publicly. 
    Still, it's a shame Larry's won't be back in the Fans' Bar this season.
    Not everything with Charlton needs to be #undisclosed! ☹️
  • cafc999
    cafc999 Posts: 5,058
    Good to see the club working together with fans ...
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 23,020
    jose said:
    Sounds like the club are treating you like chite, and their alternative is to sell overpriced chite from untrained staff.
    What is chite?
  • jose said:
    Sounds like the club are treating you like chite, and their alternative is to sell overpriced chite from untrained staff.
    What is chite?
    Crystal Palace?
  • Valiantphil
    Valiantphil Posts: 6,513
    I know you need to be on licensed premises, so there is no easy solution. 
    Just an idea - sell mocktails (alc free), somewhere in the locality ?
    The club are making their position clear, with the bad terms offered to you (and lack of responses), they don’t actually want you there.
    No easy solution- ingenuity needed. 

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  • Not read all of the above as I’m pissed but just want to say I’m a Big fan of Larry’s bar straight after a game and I’ve missed it this season
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 16,890
    CafcWest said:
    It sounds like a set of commercial terms that are set out to offset any loss of sale from the catering suppliers own offering. I’m afraid that’s business, whether it feels right or wrong given your position as a fan.

    I am sure you have worked through the numbers to understand whether the new terms are commercially viable - if they aren’t, and the operator is not willing to negotiate, then it’s plan b or nothing.

    What I would say to many on here is that the complaints about the current provision of food and drink are well established, and yet as consumers you continue to put money into the operators till. There is no better way for a company to understand the issue in its service than to see sales plummet.

    And yet many of the complainers will still be in the “Fan’s Bar” at the next match, eager to secure their table.

    Bite the bullet and stop. 
    That is so true.  Only issue is that there is so few local options.  The Oak or the Rose of Denmark are both 10-15 minutes walk away so the onsite options are all there is - especially for an aging fanbase.  Bit like bars in an airport - they have a captive audience and are exploiting that.
    There’s a lot of us old ‘uns go to The River Ale House which is one stop away on the train. It’s a 20min walk to the ground but that helps to wear off the calories from the beer. 
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 53,410
    CafcWest said:
    It sounds like a set of commercial terms that are set out to offset any loss of sale from the catering suppliers own offering. I’m afraid that’s business, whether it feels right or wrong given your position as a fan.

    I am sure you have worked through the numbers to understand whether the new terms are commercially viable - if they aren’t, and the operator is not willing to negotiate, then it’s plan b or nothing.

    What I would say to many on here is that the complaints about the current provision of food and drink are well established, and yet as consumers you continue to put money into the operators till. There is no better way for a company to understand the issue in its service than to see sales plummet.

    And yet many of the complainers will still be in the “Fan’s Bar” at the next match, eager to secure their table.

    Bite the bullet and stop. 
    That is so true.  Only issue is that there is so few local options.  The Oak or the Rose of Denmark are both 10-15 minutes walk away so the onsite options are all there is - especially for an aging fanbase.  Bit like bars in an airport - they have a captive audience and are exploiting that.
    There’s a lot of us old ‘uns go to The River Ale House which is one stop away on the train. It’s a 20min walk to the ground but that helps to wear off the calories from the beer. 
    The Oak is 5 minutes, The Bugle 10 minutes, Rose of Denmark 10 minutes, Anchor & Hope 15 mins (if it re opens), River Ale House 25 minutes and at least 10 minutes from Westcombe Park train station.
  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 29,990
    Chunes said:
    Chunes said:
    My mate once suggested meeting at Oliver's Wine Bar in Greenwich. Let me tell you, if you want to soak up the pre-match atmosphere, you'd be better off going to a library in Penzance. 
    Are there still such things as “wine bars” run by people called Oliver?

    Or was this suggestion made in about 1988?
    Oh yes, certainly. I saw they've just put a posh bowling alley in there now as well. 

    Sorry, it was Davy's Wine Bar. I'm getting it confused with Oliver's Jazz Bar, which is also in Greenwich. 

    Anyone up for some pre-match jazz?
    @PaddyP17 maybe?
  • PaddyP17
    PaddyP17 Posts: 13,286
    aliwibble said:
    Chunes said:
    Chunes said:
    My mate once suggested meeting at Oliver's Wine Bar in Greenwich. Let me tell you, if you want to soak up the pre-match atmosphere, you'd be better off going to a library in Penzance. 
    Are there still such things as “wine bars” run by people called Oliver?

    Or was this suggestion made in about 1988?
    Oh yes, certainly. I saw they've just put a posh bowling alley in there now as well. 

    Sorry, it was Davy's Wine Bar. I'm getting it confused with Oliver's Jazz Bar, which is also in Greenwich. 

    Anyone up for some pre-match jazz?
    @PaddyP17 maybe?
    Haha. Oliver/Olivier still runs Ollie's, yeah. Haven't been in a little while though.

    Not sure pre-match jazz would be even my go-to though. The Red Red Robin is more than enough!
  • DRAddick
    DRAddick Posts: 3,629
    PaddyP17 said:
    aliwibble said:
    Chunes said:
    Chunes said:
    My mate once suggested meeting at Oliver's Wine Bar in Greenwich. Let me tell you, if you want to soak up the pre-match atmosphere, you'd be better off going to a library in Penzance. 
    Are there still such things as “wine bars” run by people called Oliver?

    Or was this suggestion made in about 1988?
    Oh yes, certainly. I saw they've just put a posh bowling alley in there now as well. 

    Sorry, it was Davy's Wine Bar. I'm getting it confused with Oliver's Jazz Bar, which is also in Greenwich. 

    Anyone up for some pre-match jazz?
    @PaddyP17 maybe?
    Haha. Oliver/Olivier still runs Ollie's, yeah. Haven't been in a little while though.

    Not sure pre-match jazz would be even my go-to though. The Red Red Robin is more than enough!
    https://youtu.be/HOYbM3NUQqc?is=Xpp8jATVG_10P79e
  • TellyTubby
    TellyTubby Posts: 3,743
    CafcWest said:
    It sounds like a set of commercial terms that are set out to offset any loss of sale from the catering suppliers own offering. I’m afraid that’s business, whether it feels right or wrong given your position as a fan.

    I am sure you have worked through the numbers to understand whether the new terms are commercially viable - if they aren’t, and the operator is not willing to negotiate, then it’s plan b or nothing.

    What I would say to many on here is that the complaints about the current provision of food and drink are well established, and yet as consumers you continue to put money into the operators till. There is no better way for a company to understand the issue in its service than to see sales plummet.

    And yet many of the complainers will still be in the “Fan’s Bar” at the next match, eager to secure their table.

    Bite the bullet and stop. 
    That is so true.  Only issue is that there is so few local options.  The Oak or the Rose of Denmark are both 10-15 minutes walk away so the onsite options are all there is - especially for an aging fanbase.  Bit like bars in an airport - they have a captive audience and are exploiting that.
    The Oak was only 3 minutes away the last time I went.
    I never knew that Roger Bannister is a Charlton fan.
  • CaptainRobbo
    CaptainRobbo Posts: 2,831
    Chunes said:
    The club seem to have no power over the fan's bar, so I'm not sure they are the ones to be criticised. As reported by Gavin Carter previously, if they want to use the space for a function, they need to request Gather & Gather's permission... To use their own space inside their own stadium. 

    This was all agreed in a contract by Thomas Sandgaard. 
    The situation in which Charlton don’t control their own lounges goes back a long way. It was already a problem when i was working there and that was 14 years ago.
    Was that in the ticket office?
  • timken
    timken Posts: 1,164
    Sadly I think it is time to move on.perhaps the club would make more profit if you went back to buying a seaon ticket and  supporting the club as a fan