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Wise and Wilkins arriving.
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[cite]Posted By: Rothko[/cite]Hughton to West Ham
Parky and Breacker for West Ham0 -
[cite]Posted By: Granpa[/cite]nichorob
I have to be protective of the source ( came out of The Valley yesterday ), but after supporting the Club for 56 years I promise you that I would not just apread gossip. I believe this to be true.
Cheers.
As WSS said, the main thing that would bother me is the Slater said days ago that there was going to be no big changes and Wise was in no way involved. Not a good first impression. Wise does seems a much better prospect alongside Ray Wilkins though admitedly, I would give them a chance.0 -
Wilkins on coaching staff would probably be a good prospect, he is apparantly a nice guy who players find easy to relate too, can't be a bad thing. Wise I don't think will be joining us in a managerial role, maybe a director of football?? but who knows, nothing will surprise me at the moment...0
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I doubt this will happen.0
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But.....
Both Wilkins & Wise have been involved with the spanners at one time or another........0 -
If it is wise and wilkins it makes me think there is some decent money there...(assumptions and all that) so I'd be quite happy to wait and see how they use it this january. If, on feb 1st we have a striker capable of scoring, a defender capable of a sprint or two and a passing midfielder to support racon and jose - i'd be pretty happy. I don't think it is all that difficult to get out of this league - so long as your side can string a couple of passes together.0
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[cite]Posted By: Super_Eddie_Youds[/cite]If it is wise and wilkins it makes me think there is some decent money there...(assumptions and all that) so I'd be quite happy to wait and see how they use it this january. If, on feb 1st we have a striker capable of scoring, a defender capable of a sprint or two and a passing midfielder to support racon and jose - i'd be pretty happy. I don't think it is all that difficult to get out of this league - so long as your side can string a couple of passes together.
Agreed, Wilkins must have been paid pretty well at Chelsea and is not exactly unpopular in the football world so if we can afford him now, that's a good thing surely.0 -
Hope it is Chris Hughton, felt sorry for the man how he was treated at Newcastle, Would do a great job.0
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I'd be delighted with Hughton, devastated with Wise - even in tandem with Wilkins.0
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[cite]Posted By: sadiejane1981[/cite][cite]Posted By: Super_Eddie_Youds[/cite]If it is wise and wilkins it makes me think there is some decent money there...(assumptions and all that) so I'd be quite happy to wait and see how they use it this january. If, on feb 1st we have a striker capable of scoring, a defender capable of a sprint or two and a passing midfielder to support racon and jose - i'd be pretty happy. I don't think it is all that difficult to get out of this league - so long as your side can string a couple of passes together.
Agreed, Wilkins must have been paid pretty well at Chelsea and is not exactly unpopular in the football world so if we can afford him now, that's a good thing surely.
Wilkins was on a reported 300K per year at Chelsea. Bit out of our league that.0 -
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Look, Wise & Wilkins worked at Millwall, there doesn't need to be millions swilling about for them two to come along and do nothing to earn their dough.0
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Nope. As previously stated, the manager they are after is working. Trying to get permission to talk to him. Wise is a possible option if this falls through.
If Wise was the choice deal would have been done and dusted. Nothing will happen this side of the weekend.0 -
I'd give them a chance but don't think they could work on a limited budget like Parky did.
A spanner friend of mine believed that Wise was ok spending money but was more limited when Phaitis withdrew the cash , the other comment was that they enjoyed buying Chelsea / Premier League wasters like Jody Morris and couldn't scout players from the lower leagues.0 -
Any Charlton fan that accepts Wise with open arms is very, very fickle.0
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I know they are 'spanners' but could all Wise supporters please actually take notice of what SLL and others are telling you about Wise, because they actually know what they are talking about. if you are convinced you personally know Dennis Wise's abilities better than SLL does, please explain why the rest of us should believe you. Thank you.0
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As previous, I do have some inside news, and know that 1st choice is a Championship Manager. Tried and tested and currently doing well. I have to be honest that is all I know, but it is good info.
The new owners are taking no chances. Promotion this season is not an option. The Scotts and the Howes of this world are still unknown. Let's be honest, Hodgson, Houllier, Ancelloti, Hughes and Grant
have all become bad managers in the past few weeks, so who is a good one.
Although this info is good, I still cannot believe that Curbs won't pop up at some stage. However, none of us really know how much money we now have. The possiibility that Curbs
returns, cocks it, and we all boo him out of the ground next May cannot be ignored.
Would you look any further than Neil Warnock if it was your money, I wouldn't.....0 -
I don't need to know his personally to know he's a t**t with weasely eyes and thin lips. My mum always said don't trust a man with weasel eyes and thin lips, and being an honourary millsmall spanner doesn't sit well with me either.
Tony's Rent Boy, Tony's Rent Boy, oooohhoohh oooohhhoohh0 -
Why on earth would Warnock leave QPR when he's very likely to be plying his trade in the prem next season?0
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The one difference that I have with many on this thread is that I believe there is considerable Middle Eastern money behind the takeover, and therefore we would not be scratching around for lower league players. I think our eyes are now firmly upon reaching the Premiership again, and we need to be looking at players who can fulfill those ambitions. Remember we are no longer the dear old Charlton who we grew up loving, Mondays decisive but essential action heralds a new dawn. New owners mean a new Charlton, lets hope I am right.0
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[cite]Posted By: masicat[/cite]Would you look any further than Neil Warnock if it was your money, I wouldn't.....
that would be a bigger shock than Poyet and I can't see Ecclestone et all agreeing to that. Persoanlly I'd prefer O'Driscoll anyway.0 -
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[cite]Posted By: masicat[/cite]As previous, I do have some inside news, and know that 1st choice is a Championship Manager. Tried and tested and currently doing well. I have to be honest that is all I know, but it is good info.
The new owners are taking no chances. Promotion this season is not an option. The Scotts and the Howes of this world are still unknown. Let's be honest, Hodgson, Houllier, Ancelloti, Hughes and Grant
have all become bad managers in the past few weeks, so who is a good one.
Although this info is good, I still cannot believe that Curbs won't pop up at some stage. However, none of us really know how much money we now have. The possiibility that Curbs
returns, cocks it, and we all boo him out of the ground next May cannot be ignored.
Would you look any further than Neil Warnock if it was your money, I wouldn't.....
Let's go with this for a minute. Let's also assume "doing well" means top half of the Championship. So that means (in order) Warnock, Jones, Lambert, Brendan Rodgers, Grayson, Malky Mackay, Billy Davies, Brian McDermott or Kenny Jackett.
Which of those managers, currently within spitting distance of the Premiership, would consider a drop to League One to manage us? I'm not doubting your info but it would be one hell of a coup to get any of those managers to leave unless they are unhappy with life at the current club (or a complete mercenary like Brendan Rodgers). The only one that I am aware of who never gives the impression of being entirely happy with his lot is Davies. Would he come here?
Who wouldn't love Warnock, but I can't see any reason why he would come here.0 -
Don't like Wise and Wilkins record as a manager was poor. Add to the fact that new owners are apperaing liars I'm not optimistic - however I will try and retian an open mind0
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you could add O'Driscoll to the list - and more likely to see us a means to progression if there is some money there.[cite]Posted By: Heath Hero[/cite][cite]Posted By: masicat[/cite]As previous, I do have some inside news, and know that 1st choice is a Championship Manager. Tried and tested and currently doing well. I have to be honest that is all I know, but it is good info.
The new owners are taking no chances. Promotion this season is not an option. The Scotts and the Howes of this world are still unknown. Let's be honest, Hodgson, Houllier, Ancelloti, Hughes and Grant
have all become bad managers in the past few weeks, so who is a good one.
Although this info is good, I still cannot believe that Curbs won't pop up at some stage. However, none of us really know how much money we now have. The possiibility that Curbs
returns, cocks it, and we all boo him out of the ground next May cannot be ignored.
Would you look any further than Neil Warnock if it was your money, I wouldn't.....
Let's go with this for a minute. Let's also assume "doing well" means top half of the Championship. So that means (in order) Warnock, Jones, Lambert, Brendan Rodgers, Grayson, Malky Mackay, Billy Davies, Brian McDermott or Kenny Jackett.
Which of those managers, currently within spitting distance of the Premiership, would consider a drop to League One to manage us? I'm not doubting your info but it would be one hell of a coup to get any of those managers to leave unless they are unhappy with life at the current club (or a complete mercenary like Brendan Rodgers). The only one that I am aware of who never gives the impression of being entirely happy with his lot is Davies. Would he come here?
Who wouldn't love Warnock, but I can't see any reason why he would come here.0 -
Ahah. Now I get it.
Come Monday:
"Well, we tried hard to land Gus Poyet but Brighton wouldn't release him/ We tried to get Billy Davies/ Neil Warnock/ Kenny Jackett (delete as appropriate) but club wouldn't release him. So please all welcome the new manager, coming to our rescue, because we need to get someone in with experience quickly....Dennis Wise, of course."
Or am I just being too cynical?0 -
[cite]Posted By: Weegie Addick[/cite]Or am I just being too cynical?
Cynical and Wise, Weegie.
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[cite]Posted By: redman[/cite]Don't like Wise and Wilkins record as a manager was poor. Add to the fact that new owners are apperaing liars I'm not optimistic - however I will try and retian an open mind
'Liars' is a bit strong if you ask me. They are fully entitled to install their own choice as manager if they want to ensure promotion to protect their investment/money. And so what if they changed they're mind, that's not illegal is it? Of course they are going to publically back him and its they're full entitlement/option to reverse that statement if they so choose. Also, noone knows that WISE is involved yet so, to be fair, it seems a little premature/unfair to call anyone a liar until that is a proven fact.
Anyway, we all say things in life that we don't mean: On Monday night I said I would never step foot inside that stadium again but I'll be there the next game! You see, we all do it!0 -
O'Driscoll would be interesting.
Maybe not a glamorous "marquee" name that you might expect from new owners but a sound record with a relatively small club who play good football.
Has managed at this level and got Donny promoted albeit via the play-offs.
Would he come? He's been linked with other jobs recently, such as Sheff Utd, but stayed at Rovers.
53 years old and was at Bournemouth for ages so might fancy a move South.0 -
As I have completely lost all sense of reality and now find myself believing everything I am reading, has anyone seen Paul Lambert driving past the Valley this morning? I do hope so.0
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[cite]Posted By: Weegie Addick[/cite]Ahah. Now I get it.
Come Monday:
"Well, we tried hard to land Gus Poyet but Brighton wouldn't release him/ We tried to get Billy Davies/ Neil Warnock/ Kenny Jackett (delete as appropriate) but club wouldn't release him. So please all welcome the new manager, coming to our rescue, because we need to get someone in with experience quickly....Dennis Wise, of course."
Or am I just being too cynical?
I doubt Wise would relish being introduced to the fans as third choice, even under the circs you describe ! Whatever the bookies odds, it doesn't look like he will be coming as manager ( he might have some other role, although Slater appears to have said not).
All the (fairly thin) evidence points to the new owners working hard this week to try to land a biggish fish. Am I being silly if I find that in itself encouraging?0 -
Haven't been keen on Wise coming, mostly because he's a nasty bit of work, but I do appreciate it's not a popularity contest and his record as manager is good. Wouldn't be happy if he was Director of Football, where his record is appalling.
Wilkins coming would be a positive. He's thoroughly decent, players love him and he looks like Uncle Fester. Looks what's happened to Chelsea since he left.0
