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  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,442
    edited September 28
    Hmm... Not sure on that... Really difficult decision actually.

    I think that Pope makes contact with the ball, but cant be sure
    Wiping out a player is okay because afterwards he shades the ball with his toe thanks to Gyokeres touching it past him. 
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,442
    That's a bonkers VAR decision, basically you're allowed to take a player out as long as you get the smallest touch on the ball
    Got to start punching strikers when they're through on goal if you're able to get a small touch on the ball it seems. 
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,970
    Right decision in the end….
  • Clem_Snide
    Clem_Snide Posts: 11,735
    That decision is beyond farcical. The ball was played onto Pope’s foot and he then cleaned him out. Absolute stonewall penalty and red card.

    VAR decisions are getting worse and worse.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,288
    edited September 28
    That decision is beyond farcical. The ball was played onto Pope’s foot and he then cleaned him out. Absolute stonewall penalty and red card.

    VAR decisions are getting worse and worse.
    Wouldnt have been a Red Card though would it, because of double jeopardy?

    One rule I can genuinely never work out these days
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,442
    Would've been a yellow regardless, there was another defender and the ball went off to the side. 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 10,966
    Just seen the decision, if it's Dan Burn making that challenge we say it's a good tackle and the game moves on. Why would it be different for a keeper? It wouldn't be a foul elsewhere on the pitch
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,442
    fenaddick said:
    Just seen the decision, if it's Dan Burn making that challenge we say it's a good tackle and the game moves on. Why would it be different for a keeper? It wouldn't be a foul elsewhere on the pitch
    Time for defenders to double-foot strikers through on goal as long as they graze the ball afterwards it seems. 
  • JohnBoyUK
    JohnBoyUK Posts: 9,017
    The Liverpool fan ref taking away a stonewall penalty there. Have to laugh. 
    FWIW, even I thought it was a penalty...
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,442
    "There's also a fairly weird issue that needs to be ironed out by IFAB.

    When Gillett blew for that penalty Saka had possession in the penalty area (not a prime spot because he'd slowed down).

    End result of Arsenal not getting a penalty wasn't even a drop ball but Pope possession."
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  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 10,966
    fenaddick said:
    Just seen the decision, if it's Dan Burn making that challenge we say it's a good tackle and the game moves on. Why would it be different for a keeper? It wouldn't be a foul elsewhere on the pitch
    Time for defenders to double-foot strikers through on goal as long as they graze the ball afterwards it seems. 
    Double foot? One of his feet is behind him! And it doesn't follow through either

    https://x.com/SkySportsPL/status/1972329817665061334

    image
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,442
    edited September 28
    fenaddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    Just seen the decision, if it's Dan Burn making that challenge we say it's a good tackle and the game moves on. Why would it be different for a keeper? It wouldn't be a foul elsewhere on the pitch
    Time for defenders to double-foot strikers through on goal as long as they graze the ball afterwards it seems. 
    Double foot? One of his feet is behind him! And it doesn't follow through either

    https://x.com/SkySportsPL/status/1972329817665061334

    image
    And you're using that screenshot to say it's not a clear penalty?  :D

    I didn't say that's what Pope did. But if the rules are that as long as you graze the ball everything before it is fair game, defenders have free reign to assault strikers as long as they touch the ball afterwards. 
  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 7,760
    edited September 28
    The Liverpool fan ref taking away a stonewall penalty there. Have to laugh. 
    But he gave the pen and only took it away after consulting the VAR team. Are they all Liverpool fans too? And corrupt?

    Regardless of the rights and wrongs of the decision, your conspiracy theories are pathetic.

  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 10,966
    fenaddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    Just seen the decision, if it's Dan Burn making that challenge we say it's a good tackle and the game moves on. Why would it be different for a keeper? It wouldn't be a foul elsewhere on the pitch
    Time for defenders to double-foot strikers through on goal as long as they graze the ball afterwards it seems. 
    Double foot? One of his feet is behind him! And it doesn't follow through either

    https://x.com/SkySportsPL/status/1972329817665061334

    image
    And you're using that screenshot to say it's not a clear penalty?  :D
    No, I'm using it to say he doesn't "double foot" him...
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,442
    fenaddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    Just seen the decision, if it's Dan Burn making that challenge we say it's a good tackle and the game moves on. Why would it be different for a keeper? It wouldn't be a foul elsewhere on the pitch
    Time for defenders to double-foot strikers through on goal as long as they graze the ball afterwards it seems. 
    Double foot? One of his feet is behind him! And it doesn't follow through either

    https://x.com/SkySportsPL/status/1972329817665061334

    image
    And you're using that screenshot to say it's not a clear penalty?  :D
    No, I'm using it to say he doesn't "double foot" him...
    Need to improve your reading comprehension skills. See above. 
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,442
    The Liverpool fan ref taking away a stonewall penalty there. Have to laugh. 
    But he gave the pen and only took it away after consulting the VAR team. Are they all Liverpool fans too? And corrupt?

    Your conspiracy theories are pathetic.

    This ref is banned from reffing against Everton but is allowed to ref against Liverpool's biggest title rivals. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,288
    edited September 28
    Good header

    Weak, very weak from the Arsenal defender to claim a "push" - Reminded me of the "foul" I asked whether should have been a penalty for a push on Campbell yesterday.
  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 7,760
    Hmm... Not sure on that... Really difficult decision actually.

    I think that Pope makes contact with the ball, but cant be sure
    Wiping out a player is okay because afterwards he shades the ball with his toe thanks to Gyokeres touching it past him. 
    I don’t necessarily disagree that the decision was wrong, but at least be honest. Pope got the ball before contact with Gyokeres.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 10,966
    The Liverpool fan ref taking away a stonewall penalty there. Have to laugh. 
    But he gave the pen and only took it away after consulting the VAR team. Are they all Liverpool fans too? And corrupt?

    Your conspiracy theories are pathetic.

    This ref is banned from reffing against Everton but is allowed to ref against Liverpool's biggest title rivals. 
    To be fair to you I do think this is a slight blindspot. Later in the season and he doesn't ref this. On the whole I actually think it would be fine for him to ref any game, his job is to be objective but if you're going to restrict who they do get to ref then you have to consider more than just tradtional rivals
  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 7,760
    The Liverpool fan ref taking away a stonewall penalty there. Have to laugh. 
    But he gave the pen and only took it away after consulting the VAR team. Are they all Liverpool fans too? And corrupt?

    Your conspiracy theories are pathetic.

    This ref is banned from reffing against Everton but is allowed to ref against Liverpool's biggest title rivals. 
    So you’re just ignoring my point and doubling down then, yeah?
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  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,970
    Hahahaha resident Gooner absolutely rattled as per…
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,442
    fenaddick said:
    The Liverpool fan ref taking away a stonewall penalty there. Have to laugh. 
    But he gave the pen and only took it away after consulting the VAR team. Are they all Liverpool fans too? And corrupt?

    Your conspiracy theories are pathetic.

    This ref is banned from reffing against Everton but is allowed to ref against Liverpool's biggest title rivals. 
    To be fair to you I do think this is a slight blindspot. Later in the season and he doesn't ref this. On the whole I actually think it would be fine for him to ref any game, his job is to be objective but if you're going to restrict who they do get to ref then you have to consider more than just tradtional rivals
    Ask any Liverpool fan. I guarantee 80-90% of them don't actually care whether Everton win or lose, but will be checking City and Arsenal results every week. It's such a poor way to counter potential bias. 
  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 7,760
    edited September 28
    fenaddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    Just seen the decision, if it's Dan Burn making that challenge we say it's a good tackle and the game moves on. Why would it be different for a keeper? It wouldn't be a foul elsewhere on the pitch
    Time for defenders to double-foot strikers through on goal as long as they graze the ball afterwards it seems. 
    Double foot? One of his feet is behind him! And it doesn't follow through either

    https://x.com/SkySportsPL/status/1972329817665061334

    image
    And you're using that screenshot to say it's not a clear penalty?  :D

    I didn't say that's what Pope did. But if the rules are that as long as you graze the ball everything before it is fair game, defenders have free reign to assault strikers as long as they touch the ball afterwards
    Again, not afterwards.
    Just be honest.
  • Turning into quite a good feisty match this is for the neutral
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 10,966
    How I wish Lloyd Jones had headed like that yesterday, the power Woltemade gets from his neck is so good
  • O-Randy-Hunt
    O-Randy-Hunt Posts: 10,626
    fenaddick said:
    The Liverpool fan ref taking away a stonewall penalty there. Have to laugh. 
    But he gave the pen and only took it away after consulting the VAR team. Are they all Liverpool fans too? And corrupt?

    Your conspiracy theories are pathetic.

    This ref is banned from reffing against Everton but is allowed to ref against Liverpool's biggest title rivals. 
    To be fair to you I do think this is a slight blindspot. Later in the season and he doesn't ref this. On the whole I actually think it would be fine for him to ref any game, his job is to be objective but if you're going to restrict who they do get to ref then you have to consider more than just tradtional rivals
    Ask any Liverpool fan. I guarantee 80-90% of them don't actually care whether Everton win or lose, but will be checking City and Arsenal results every week. It's such a poor way to counter potential bias. 
    Your head has proper gone 🤣
  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 7,760
    edited September 28
    fenaddick said:
    The Liverpool fan ref taking away a stonewall penalty there. Have to laugh. 
    But he gave the pen and only took it away after consulting the VAR team. Are they all Liverpool fans too? And corrupt?

    Your conspiracy theories are pathetic.

    This ref is banned from reffing against Everton but is allowed to ref against Liverpool's biggest title rivals. 
    To be fair to you I do think this is a slight blindspot. Later in the season and he doesn't ref this. On the whole I actually think it would be fine for him to ref any game, his job is to be objective but if you're going to restrict who they do get to ref then you have to consider more than just tradtional rivals
    Ask any Liverpool fan. I guarantee 80-90% of them don't actually care whether Everton win or lose, but will be checking City and Arsenal results every week. It's such a poor way to counter potential bias. 

  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,442
    fenaddick said:
    The Liverpool fan ref taking away a stonewall penalty there. Have to laugh. 
    But he gave the pen and only took it away after consulting the VAR team. Are they all Liverpool fans too? And corrupt?

    Your conspiracy theories are pathetic.

    This ref is banned from reffing against Everton but is allowed to ref against Liverpool's biggest title rivals. 
    To be fair to you I do think this is a slight blindspot. Later in the season and he doesn't ref this. On the whole I actually think it would be fine for him to ref any game, his job is to be objective but if you're going to restrict who they do get to ref then you have to consider more than just tradtional rivals
    Ask any Liverpool fan. I guarantee 80-90% of them don't actually care whether Everton win or lose, but will be checking City and Arsenal results every week. It's such a poor way to counter potential bias. 

    https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/71899/you-know-that-arsenal-fan-called-claude-whos-always-ranting-on-arsenal-tv/p1

    More obsessed than I am it seems. 
  • I'm completely neutral but it's a stonewall penalty 
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,587
    Stonewall penalty but it’s Arsenal so great decision