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MATCH THREAD [+POST p18]: Charlton Athletic v Stevenage: Lge cup R1: Tues 12th Aug 2025: KO 19:45

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  • Can’t believe we’re in the next round of the cup, with 11 of the big boys, and Wrexham.
  • EveshamAddick
    EveshamAddick Posts: 7,019
    Absolute hilarious flappy knee-jerk reactions regarding Kelman.

    "The longer he goes without scoring goals the worse it will get" 97 minutes of football without a proper pre-season and off the back of playing 50+ games.

    "Do our recruitment team not look at stats and heat maps?" He had more movement than Tanto & Godden on heat maps. 

    "Hopefully Kelman gets off the mark soon, he needs that confidence boost" 97 minutes of football. 22 of those with a second string side holding on to a lead partnered with an academy player who probably won't be making the bench in League games.

    "Oof Kelman’s body language looks terrible I hope he doesn’t beat himself up he just needs time I think" surely this is satire?

    Not to mention hearing people in person say Kelman has done nothing so far and they're not sure. Genuinely insane. It's actually fried my brain. 
    So true.
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,256
    thenewbie said:
    cabbles said:
    Kelman will come good.  Didn’t have a full pre season with us and Jones wouldn’t have committed such a hefty part of our budget unless he saw him adding significant returns, be it goals or what else he will bring.  Give all these new players time.  New team mates, new surroundings and only just getting their first competitive matches playing with one another.  Look how integral Godden became in the second half of last season, particularly toward the end.  Players find form at different points of the season

    Tanto has got great feet.  

    Let’s hope we can carry the enthusiasm onto Bristol City.  A much bigger test where we will have to be at our resolute best 
    In the same way that we got such fantastic value for money from last season's big money striker, Gassan "Goal Machine' Ahadme? Jones might very well THINK he can get good returns from Kelman, but that's not to say he's right.

    Though being a bit less facetious I actually do think Kelman will be absolutely fine once he finds his groove and adjusts to how we play.
    Ahadme was a mistake, but imo he’s the only signing since NJ took over that hasn’t worked out.

    hopefully Kelman proves us both right and I’m looking forward to seeing more of him 
  • king addick
    king addick Posts: 3,705
    Absolute hilarious flappy knee-jerk reactions regarding Kelman.

    "The longer he goes without scoring goals the worse it will get" 97 minutes of football without a proper pre-season and off the back of playing 50+ games.

    "Do our recruitment team not look at stats and heat maps?" He had more movement than Tanto & Godden on heat maps. 

    "Hopefully Kelman gets off the mark soon, he needs that confidence boost" 97 minutes of football. 22 of those with a second string side holding on to a lead partnered with an academy player who probably won't be making the bench in League games.

    "Oof Kelman’s body language looks terrible I hope he doesn’t beat himself up he just needs time I think" surely this is satire?

    Not to mention hearing people in person say Kelman has done nothing so far and they're not sure. Genuinely insane. It's actually fried my brain. 
    In fairness, This comment is right but the same goes for every striker. They just want to score goals and they more do, the more confident they are. 

    Whilst I wasnt the most excited by his signing, he does need time to bed in and get fitter and play more than 2 games before he can be judged.  
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,230
    cabbles said:
    thenewbie said:
    cabbles said:
    Kelman will come good.  Didn’t have a full pre season with us and Jones wouldn’t have committed such a hefty part of our budget unless he saw him adding significant returns, be it goals or what else he will bring.  Give all these new players time.  New team mates, new surroundings and only just getting their first competitive matches playing with one another.  Look how integral Godden became in the second half of last season, particularly toward the end.  Players find form at different points of the season

    Tanto has got great feet.  

    Let’s hope we can carry the enthusiasm onto Bristol City.  A much bigger test where we will have to be at our resolute best 
    In the same way that we got such fantastic value for money from last season's big money striker, Gassan "Goal Machine' Ahadme? Jones might very well THINK he can get good returns from Kelman, but that's not to say he's right.

    Though being a bit less facetious I actually do think Kelman will be absolutely fine once he finds his groove and adjusts to how we play.
    Ahadme was a mistake, but imo he’s the only signing since NJ took over that hasn’t worked out.

    hopefully Kelman proves us both right and I’m looking forward to seeing more of him 
    I give you Allan Campbell.
  • Davo55
    Davo55 Posts: 7,836
    cabbles said:
    Kelman will come good.  Didn’t have a full pre season with us and Jones wouldn’t have committed such a hefty part of our budget unless he saw him adding significant returns, be it goals or what else he will bring.  Give all these new players time.  New team mates, new surroundings and only just getting their first competitive matches playing with one another.  Look how integral Godden became in the second half of last season, particularly toward the end.  Players find form at different points of the season

    Tanto has got great feet.  

    Let’s hope we can carry the enthusiasm onto Bristol City.  A much bigger test where we will have to be at our resolute best 
    Well said. People writing off Kelman after two performances is absolute madness. 
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,907
    Anderson looked good - only a low key game but he kept possession so much better which has been his weakness - I’d start Leaburn Saturday - Kelman will come good but think we need instant impact on Saturday, no passengers. Fullah looks a great prospect, not sure about Rylah on that performance and Gillesphey and Costello looked like the good solid players they are - Knibbs showed flashes as did Tanto who should also play a part Saturday - Mannion was solid as always 
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,827
    iaitch said:
    cabbles said:
    thenewbie said:
    cabbles said:
    Kelman will come good.  Didn’t have a full pre season with us and Jones wouldn’t have committed such a hefty part of our budget unless he saw him adding significant returns, be it goals or what else he will bring.  Give all these new players time.  New team mates, new surroundings and only just getting their first competitive matches playing with one another.  Look how integral Godden became in the second half of last season, particularly toward the end.  Players find form at different points of the season

    Tanto has got great feet.  

    Let’s hope we can carry the enthusiasm onto Bristol City.  A much bigger test where we will have to be at our resolute best 
    In the same way that we got such fantastic value for money from last season's big money striker, Gassan "Goal Machine' Ahadme? Jones might very well THINK he can get good returns from Kelman, but that's not to say he's right.

    Though being a bit less facetious I actually do think Kelman will be absolutely fine once he finds his groove and adjusts to how we play.
    Ahadme was a mistake, but imo he’s the only signing since NJ took over that hasn’t worked out.

    hopefully Kelman proves us both right and I’m looking forward to seeing more of him 
    I give you Allan Campbell.
    I assume he meant more permanent / longer term signings, otherwise you can go full Lua Lua/ Potts / McIntyre mode 
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  • 2121
    2121 Posts: 1,193
    Defo give kelman another go on Saturday. Protect leaburn.

    berry also looked ready! What a finish. 

    Anderson brings us the energy in midfield we need. 
  • thickandthin63
    thickandthin63 Posts: 2,957
    A good performance,our young lads once again did us proud,I am convinced,that as the season goes on,Anderson will be one of the first names on the team sheet,his work rate is never in doubt,but his ability on the ball is improving every time I see him play.We have a real diamond on our hands here.
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,796
    sammy391 said:
    Pros:
    - Fullah looks unreal, and the next exciting prospect out from the Sparrows Lane Lab
    - JRC looked comfortable and combative in midfield, definitely more of a deep sitting ‘sweeper’ rather than play maker
    - Olaofe and Leaburn were very good and will be great foil off the bench at the very least
    - Z Mitchell looked tidy

    cons:
    - Rylah and enslin absolutely not ready to be in and around the first team 
    - A Mitchell struggled and seems to try to be all brawn but ends up hauling players down
    - Kelman struggled with zero service 


    Another home drawn please
    I thought Alex played well. A lot of the player scoring shows others do, too. 
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,234
    PWR

    A full reserve/not yet fully fit side against a weakened Stevenage team.

    We were well on top until their brought their big guns at which point we were under the cosh but still scored another before we let their player have a clear run at a cross to head home.

    Some good performances.

    Everyone will have noticed Fullah. Pleased to have been in the stadium when he scored his first goal. It won't be his last.

    Miles did well as did Tanto but Jones was raging when he didn't shoot first time.

    Knibbs impressed and we looked a weaker side when Berry came on despite Luke doing very well to head home a lovely Kanu cross.

    JRC didn't look fit and not quite on it but Anderson was very good in a deeper role.

    Rylah got into so many good position but his crossing, his strongest point in the U21s, often let him down but it was his low ball that Fullah converted.  He really needs a loan.

    A Mitchell must have a headache this morning after heading every ball. Z Mitchell and Gillesphy were good too.

    Kelman again feeding on scraps but made one good move near the end.  Would have like to have seen him alongside Leaburn or Tanto.

    A comfortable enough win with a "rotated" team against lower league opposition.  Boro, Ipswich, Blackburn, QPR are all wishing they could say the same this morning so don't knock it.
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,827
    PWR

    A full reserve/not yet fully fit side against a weakened Stevenage team.

    We were well on top until their brought their big guns at which point we were under the cosh but still scored another before we let their player have a clear run at a cross to head home.

    Some good performances.

    Everyone will have noticed Fullah. Pleased to have been in the stadium when he scored his first goal. It won't be his last.

    Miles did well as did Tanto but Jones was raging when he didn't shoot first time.

    Knibbs impressed and we looked a weaker side when Berry came on despite Luke doing very well to head home a lovely Kanu cross.

    JRC didn't look fit and not quite on it but Anderson was very good in a deeper role.

    Rylah got into so many good position but his crossing, his strongest point in the U21s, often let him down but it was his low ball that Fullah converted.  He really needs a loan.

    A Mitchell must have a headache this morning after heading every ball. Z Mitchell and Gillesphy were good too.

    Kelman again feeding on scraps but made one good move near the end.  Would have like to have seen him alongside Leaburn or Tanto.

    A comfortable enough win with a "rotated" team against lower league opposition.  Boro, Ipswich, Blackburn, QPR are all wishing they could say the same this morning so don't knock it.
    Extraordinary result for Boro, seeing as Donny made 11 changes 
  • timken
    timken Posts: 1,002
    iaitch said:
    cabbles said:
    thenewbie said:
    cabbles said:
    Kelman will come good.  Didn’t have a full pre season with us and Jones wouldn’t have committed such a hefty part of our budget unless he saw him adding significant returns, be it goals or what else he will bring.  Give all these new players time.  New team mates, new surroundings and only just getting their first competitive matches playing with one another.  Look how integral Godden became in the second half of last season, particularly toward the end.  Players find form at different points of the season

    Tanto has got great feet.  

    Let’s hope we can carry the enthusiasm onto Bristol City.  A much bigger test where we will have to be at our resolute best 
    In the same way that we got such fantastic value for money from last season's big money striker, Gassan "Goal Machine' Ahadme? Jones might very well THINK he can get good returns from Kelman, but that's not to say he's right.

    Though being a bit less facetious I actually do think Kelman will be absolutely fine once he finds his groove and adjusts to how we play.
    Ahadme was a mistake, but imo he’s the only signing since NJ took over that hasn’t worked out.

    hopefully Kelman proves us both right and I’m looking forward to seeing more of him 
    I give you Allan Campbell.
    True
  • I've got a funny feeling that before this season is out Mannion may well get a run in the first team.

    His taking of one cross last night bought back memories of his display at Wembley. 

  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,155
    I've got a funny feeling that before this season is out Mannion may well get a run in the first team.

    His taking of one cross last night bought back memories of his display at Wembley. 

    Yep but it was missing the infamous not required but good for time wasting hit the deck after catching routine .
    He deffo went to go down a couple of times and just held himself realising it’s not that situation.
  • jose
    jose Posts: 626
    Missed tonight (family obligation).

    Who was playing as the deepest midfielder? The Coventry role? Was it Costello? How did he get on?
    I thought Rankin Costello had a good game, hard working, present and efficient. He and Anderson were essentially the centre of midfield, Joe played well, Karoy played even better in my opinion.
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,175
    I've seen a few criticisms of Zach Mitchell but I think he had a very hard job last night. He nominally can play right back but I don't think he is one, so that RCB role in our side is a tough job at the best of times. It's made a lot harder if your wingback is a youth team forward playing a complex role. Rylah tried but his game was mostly him running up the wing trying to beat his man or cross, losing it and then struggling to get back to support defensively. Zach often had two Stevenage player to think about and it was a tough spot for a player of his age to be in. I thought he did well regardless but if he'd had a proper wingback in front of him I think he would have looked a lot more assured
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  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,359
    Absolute hilarious flappy knee-jerk reactions regarding Kelman.

    "The longer he goes without scoring goals the worse it will get" 97 minutes of football without a proper pre-season and off the back of playing 50+ games.

    "Do our recruitment team not look at stats and heat maps?" He had more movement than Tanto & Godden on heat maps. 

    "Hopefully Kelman gets off the mark soon, he needs that confidence boost" 97 minutes of football. 22 of those with a second string side holding on to a lead partnered with an academy player who probably won't be making the bench in League games.

    "Oof Kelman’s body language looks terrible I hope he doesn’t beat himself up he just needs time I think" surely this is satire?

    Not to mention hearing people in person say Kelman has done nothing so far and they're not sure. Genuinely insane. It's actually fried my brain. 
    In fairness, This comment is right but the same goes for every striker. They just want to score goals and they more do, the more confident they are. 

    Whilst I wasnt the most excited by his signing, he does need time to bed in and get fitter and play more than 2 games before he can be judged.  
    To be fair that as a stand alone comment isn't too bad, I just grouped it with the rest. 

    I was hoping Kelman would be on the end of our third and not Berry for instance. You always want to see strikers score. I don't think the bloke is lacking confidence though.
  • Char1t0n
    Char1t0n Posts: 164
    sam3110 said:
    FT 3-1 and into the hat for the big boys
    You know we're going be away to Bromley :lol:
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,234
    Char1t0n said:
    sam3110 said:
    FT 3-1 and into the hat for the big boys
    You know we're going be away to Bromley :lol:
    Let's hope so
  • NornIrishAddick
    NornIrishAddick Posts: 9,623
    Absolute hilarious flappy knee-jerk reactions regarding Kelman.

    "The longer he goes without scoring goals the worse it will get" 97 minutes of football without a proper pre-season and off the back of playing 50+ games.

    "Do our recruitment team not look at stats and heat maps?" He had more movement than Tanto & Godden on heat maps. 

    "Hopefully Kelman gets off the mark soon, he needs that confidence boost" 97 minutes of football. 22 of those with a second string side holding on to a lead partnered with an academy player who probably won't be making the bench in League games.

    "Oof Kelman’s body language looks terrible I hope he doesn’t beat himself up he just needs time I think" surely this is satire?

    Not to mention hearing people in person say Kelman has done nothing so far and they're not sure. Genuinely insane. It's actually fried my brain. 
    So true.
    funny how it seems
    Always in time, but never in line for dreams...
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,874
    Char1t0n said:
    sam3110 said:
    FT 3-1 and into the hat for the big boys
    You know we're going be away to Bromley :lol:
    Let's hope so
    Would be tough getting tickets to that with their current restricted capacity
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,171
    Scoham said:
    Always so impressed when the academy players speak, not only do we produce good footballers we produce good people too 
  • Char1t0n
    Char1t0n Posts: 164
    Just watched the highlights. 

    Outside of his talent and goals, Knibbs seems to be a lovely bloke. 

    Ran to make sure he was the first to celebrate with Miles and Fullah last night, and posted an Instagram story about each of them. 

    Seems he's settled in very quickly with the squad, which is impressive considering he was the last through the door.

    You can tell Knibbs see himself as a leader, just watching him in the warm-up and how he played in the 1st half; he's not doesn't mind doing the simple things to help out the team. You can tell he's not all about the glory, which is why he often will be part of it. He feel like the sort of player you may barely see in game, then will pop up with a killer assist, or a winning goal :wink
  • Southbank
    Southbank Posts: 5,257
    The great thing is that, with the exception of Rylah who is still too raw, the rest of the starters last night are all in contention for first team places, and they played like it . I cannot remember when we have had this strength in depth. Some of Costello's passing was the best I have seen from a midfielder for years, although he is not yet match fit. Fullah looks v promising and should be kept around the first team squad.
  • ElliotCAFC
    ElliotCAFC Posts: 2,553
    PWR

    I think the highlight of the evening was the system going down at the bar and everyone getting two free beers each. 

    Besides that, I thought Leaburn looked very sharp and it's the fittest I've seen him in a long time - I'd like to see him get at least 35 minutes on Saturday, if not start. 

    Tanto looked good and is a better passer/footballer than I gave him credit for, but you can see he's really not a natural finisher - I'd be surprised if he scored many this season, although I expect him to have a big impact over 46 league games. 

    Finally, Fullah looks a real prospect and I can see him being in the starting eleven towards the end of the season.