Attention: Please take a moment to consider our terms and conditions before posting.
POST-MATCH THREAD: Charlton Athletic v Oxford Utd: Saturday 20th December 2025: KO 15:00
Comments
-
I wouldn't be surprised if Kaminski, Kelman and Bree are on those sort of figures. Sounds about right2
-
The only rumoured figure with Kaminski when signing was 13k a week. People giving rough estimates is fine, but all these publicised figures are rumours/guesswork, as is your claim that it’s closer to 20 than it is 10Braziliance said:
We do have an idea.eastterrace6168 said:NabySarr said:
Unless you’ve got access to the club pay roll then you’ve got no idea what they are on, none of us do. No chance either are on 20k a week thougheastterrace6168 said:
Kelman and Kaminski are both 20kpw...Crispywood said:
Bree is apparently on 15-20k a week at Southampton our highest earner is reportedly Kaminski on 14-15k.eastterrace6168 said:Crispywood said:
They would also technically make around 400-500k in saved wages as well so thats technically profit if they have no intention of using him as well. It will likely come down to if Bree is happy to take a wage cut to come hereeastterrace6168 said:Ilovelondontown said:
No your not, although I’m not say bree is 3rd choice but not keen on paying big money/wages for him.Gisappointed said:
Am I the only person that would rather try a Japanese untried youngster over a third choice journeyman?ross1 said:If Bree signs permanently he will have to accept a cut in wages
His contract expires in June next year, any fee won't be excessive, and I should think Southampton would do well to take a reasonable offer rather than lose him for free in 6 months...
Bree is currently on 9.6kpw, same as Macca and JRC, whether this is being topped up by Southampton I don't know, so we will see, but hopefully he does sign asap...
No access to the club pay roll obviously and ready to be corrected, just going by salaryleaks.com...🤷♂️
He was on 13k a week at Blackburn, Luton he was on 25k a week. His salary is going to be somewhere between that figure, otherwise he wouldn't have signed.
I've been told by multiple people, with a few having 'connections' in the football world he is on around 20k a week.
Not aimed at Naby in particular, but it irks me when people imply we don't have an idea on how much players are paid, when we have one of the most powerful tools in our hands and can roughly work it out by process of elimination and using publicised figures as a comparison.
We pay one of the lowest wages in the Championship on average, on par with Oxford United and Pompey (as expected) Kaminski is our highest paid player, and it is closer to 20k a week than it is 10k.
5 -
I can’t remember which one, but I remember one that someone was quoting on here once had TC and Karoy on less than minimum wage!Scoham said:
I think it’s more that sometimes those salary websites are quoted as facts when they’re only estimates, and sometimes obviously completely wrong.Braziliance said:
We do have an idea.eastterrace6168 said:NabySarr said:
Unless you’ve got access to the club pay roll then you’ve got no idea what they are on, none of us do. No chance either are on 20k a week thougheastterrace6168 said:
Kelman and Kaminski are both 20kpw...Crispywood said:
Bree is apparently on 15-20k a week at Southampton our highest earner is reportedly Kaminski on 14-15k.eastterrace6168 said:Crispywood said:
They would also technically make around 400-500k in saved wages as well so thats technically profit if they have no intention of using him as well. It will likely come down to if Bree is happy to take a wage cut to come hereeastterrace6168 said:Ilovelondontown said:
No your not, although I’m not say bree is 3rd choice but not keen on paying big money/wages for him.Gisappointed said:
Am I the only person that would rather try a Japanese untried youngster over a third choice journeyman?ross1 said:If Bree signs permanently he will have to accept a cut in wages
His contract expires in June next year, any fee won't be excessive, and I should think Southampton would do well to take a reasonable offer rather than lose him for free in 6 months...
Bree is currently on 9.6kpw, same as Macca and JRC, whether this is being topped up by Southampton I don't know, so we will see, but hopefully he does sign asap...
No access to the club pay roll obviously and ready to be corrected, just going by salaryleaks.com...🤷♂️
He was on 13k a week at Blackburn, Luton he was on 25k a week. His salary is going to be somewhere between that figure, otherwise he wouldn't have signed.
I've been told by multiple people, with a few having 'connections' in the football world he is on around 20k a week.
Not aimed at Naby in particular, but it irks me when people imply we don't have an idea on how much players are paid, when we have one of the most powerful tools in our hands and can roughly work it out by process of elimination and using publicised figures as a comparison.
We pay one of the lowest wages in the Championship on average, on par with Oxford United and Pompey (as expected) Kaminski is our highest paid player, and it is closer to 20k a week than it is 10k.1 -
Let's face it, the only people who know the salaries apart from the club is their bank manager...2
-
If we are paying players 20k a week I'd love to know how much Nathan Jones is getting.
0 -
The Leaburn/Kelman combo may have been 'stumbled' on and may work. But we will be frequently crucified if we keep Apter at wingback and Gillesphey at CB for the rest of the season. This is a makeshift setup which will cease very soon.thenewbie said:
I think "stumbling through necessity" is a bit harsh, I think it would be fairer to say that he's tried various combinations and has found one that is working.EugenesAxe said:Is NJ now stumbling onto a winning formula, like last season, through necessity?1 -
Agree. That formation and players wouldn’t work against teams with decent wingers.3
-
Hence the many comments on here that we did well against a poor side in Oxford.....Stuart_Learys_Boots said:Agree. That formation and players wouldn’t work against teams with decent wingers.
We should not be fooled that Leaburn will do again what he did. Kelman though just might? Against the better sides we will need our injured players back and a couple of enhancements in order to remain in the safety zone1 -
Why is Kelman capable of improving but not Leaburn?CharltonManor1966 said:
Hence the many comments on here that we did well against a poor side in Oxford.....Stuart_Learys_Boots said:Agree. That formation and players wouldn’t work against teams with decent wingers.
We should not be fooled that Leaburn will do again what he did. Kelman though just might? Against the better sides we will need our injured players back and a couple of enhancements in order to remain in the safety zone12 -
My favourite line up with the current fit players in my head is:
Mannion
Apter Ramsay Jones Gillesphey TC
Anderson carey coventry
Leaburn Kelman
Would likely get shredded defensively against any sort of wide pace but you never know unless you try3 -
Sponsored links:
-
You are right, but it’s comforting to know that even with a makeshift setup we are still better than the team in 22nd. I still didn’t really have any doubts when we were on the losing run but now even more confident we willSouthbank said:
The Leaburn/Kelman combo may have been 'stumbled' on and may work. But we will be frequently crucified if we keep Apter at wingback and Gillesphey at CB for the rest of the season. This is a makeshift setup which will cease very soon.thenewbie said:
I think "stumbling through necessity" is a bit harsh, I think it would be fairer to say that he's tried various combinations and has found one that is working.EugenesAxe said:Is NJ now stumbling onto a winning formula, like last season, through necessity?
pull comfortably away from danger once we have a proper team available3 -
Well he may well do - I very much hope he will. Let's see? Jury is out for me.Scoham said:
Why is Kelman capable of improving but not Leaburn?CharltonManor1966 said:
Hence the many comments on here that we did well against a poor side in Oxford.....Stuart_Learys_Boots said:Agree. That formation and players wouldn’t work against teams with decent wingers.
We should not be fooled that Leaburn will do again what he did. Kelman though just might? Against the better sides we will need our injured players back and a couple of enhancements in order to remain in the safety zone
I reckon Kelman is a better prospect at this level because of his movement and finishing but he will need Leaburn, TC or someone to provide the service as they did on Saturday - but against better sides????0 -
I think you are wrong, we do know.Alwaysneil said:My favourite line up with the current fit players in my head is:
Mannion
Apter Ramsay Jones Gillesphey TC
Anderson carey coventry
Leaburn Kelman
Would likely get shredded defensively against any sort of wide pace but you never know unless you try
This lineup however would keep us in the division
Kaminski
Bree Ramsay Jones Bell Edwards
Coventry Anderson/Docherty
TC/Carey
Leaburn Kelman2 -
That lineup also contains players who arent currently available.2
-
To be critical, Anderson has been a potential option all season, but NJ chose not to use him, and instead probably overplayed both Coventry and Doc. 1 minute of league football in the first 15 games of the season was baffling when we can use 5 subs.Dugdaleclass said:The ongoing discussions on here about Doc and/or Anderson shows that NJ is now getting options again on players and positions.
2 -
They’re different types of strikers though. Kelman is much more of a poacher. Leaburn has the potential to be a very good target man at this level, the type of striker Kelman would probably enjoy playing alongside.CharltonManor1966 said:
Well he may well do - I very much hope he will. Let's see? Jury is out for me.Scoham said:
Why is Kelman capable of improving but not Leaburn?CharltonManor1966 said:
Hence the many comments on here that we did well against a poor side in Oxford.....Stuart_Learys_Boots said:Agree. That formation and players wouldn’t work against teams with decent wingers.
We should not be fooled that Leaburn will do again what he did. Kelman though just might? Against the better sides we will need our injured players back and a couple of enhancements in order to remain in the safety zone
I reckon Kelman is a better prospect at this level because of his movement and finishing but he will need Leaburn, TC or someone to provide the service as they did on Saturday - but against better sides????0 -
It's a lineup of current players good enough to stay in this league, we just need a couple of extra defenders to avoid what happened last month through injuries.Alwaysneil said:That lineup also contains players who arent currently available.0 -
Average Championship manager salary is 800k, League 1 is something like 300-450k.ElfsborgAddick said:If we are paying players 20k a week I'd love to know how much Nathan Jones is getting.
Safe to assume Nathan Jones is on at least 600k a year, before the bump. Mansfield pay Clough 350k for context, and that's Mansfield.
We would have had to have stumped up a fair bit for Jones, as he was punching down.
I reckon he's on somewhere between 12-15k a week, easily. It's peanuts now.1 -
It's as close as can be though without a player showing you his bank balance.Scoham said:
I think it’s more that sometimes those salary websites are quoted as facts when they’re only estimates, and sometimes obviously completely wrong.Braziliance said:
We do have an idea.eastterrace6168 said:NabySarr said:
Unless you’ve got access to the club pay roll then you’ve got no idea what they are on, none of us do. No chance either are on 20k a week thougheastterrace6168 said:
Kelman and Kaminski are both 20kpw...Crispywood said:
Bree is apparently on 15-20k a week at Southampton our highest earner is reportedly Kaminski on 14-15k.eastterrace6168 said:Crispywood said:
They would also technically make around 400-500k in saved wages as well so thats technically profit if they have no intention of using him as well. It will likely come down to if Bree is happy to take a wage cut to come hereeastterrace6168 said:Ilovelondontown said:
No your not, although I’m not say bree is 3rd choice but not keen on paying big money/wages for him.Gisappointed said:
Am I the only person that would rather try a Japanese untried youngster over a third choice journeyman?ross1 said:If Bree signs permanently he will have to accept a cut in wages
His contract expires in June next year, any fee won't be excessive, and I should think Southampton would do well to take a reasonable offer rather than lose him for free in 6 months...
Bree is currently on 9.6kpw, same as Macca and JRC, whether this is being topped up by Southampton I don't know, so we will see, but hopefully he does sign asap...
No access to the club pay roll obviously and ready to be corrected, just going by salaryleaks.com...🤷♂️
He was on 13k a week at Blackburn, Luton he was on 25k a week. His salary is going to be somewhere between that figure, otherwise he wouldn't have signed.
I've been told by multiple people, with a few having 'connections' in the football world he is on around 20k a week.
Not aimed at Naby in particular, but it irks me when people imply we don't have an idea on how much players are paid, when we have one of the most powerful tools in our hands and can roughly work it out by process of elimination and using publicised figures as a comparison.
We pay one of the lowest wages in the Championship on average, on par with Oxford United and Pompey (as expected) Kaminski is our highest paid player, and it is closer to 20k a week than it is 10k.
It just comes down to process of elimination, always. All the data is available on Championship salaries, plenty of publicised ones in recent history. We have to match those salaries to sign these players, or roughly match it, otherwise we wouldn't have the likes of Bell, Burke, Kaminski etc.
If Kaminski was on 13k at Blackburn in 2022, and 25k at Luton, he isn't going to go much lower.
It's the same as when people say "no one knows we pay some of the lowest wages" when you can literally look at the table, and immediately put 18 teams higher than us for player wages without doing an ounce of real research.
There's not much wrong with that, but that's how it is. We need to stabilise to match some of these clubs, and in time, our whole starting XI will be on 10-15k a week, not just a few, that's the nature of this league now.0 -
I agree we can get a decent estimate of the range and they’ll be about right. Also agree players like Kaminski wouldn’t have signed here and taken big pay cuts.Braziliance said:
It's as close as can be though without a player showing you his bank balance.Scoham said:
I think it’s more that sometimes those salary websites are quoted as facts when they’re only estimates, and sometimes obviously completely wrong.Braziliance said:
We do have an idea.eastterrace6168 said:NabySarr said:
Unless you’ve got access to the club pay roll then you’ve got no idea what they are on, none of us do. No chance either are on 20k a week thougheastterrace6168 said:
Kelman and Kaminski are both 20kpw...Crispywood said:
Bree is apparently on 15-20k a week at Southampton our highest earner is reportedly Kaminski on 14-15k.eastterrace6168 said:Crispywood said:
They would also technically make around 400-500k in saved wages as well so thats technically profit if they have no intention of using him as well. It will likely come down to if Bree is happy to take a wage cut to come hereeastterrace6168 said:Ilovelondontown said:
No your not, although I’m not say bree is 3rd choice but not keen on paying big money/wages for him.Gisappointed said:
Am I the only person that would rather try a Japanese untried youngster over a third choice journeyman?ross1 said:If Bree signs permanently he will have to accept a cut in wages
His contract expires in June next year, any fee won't be excessive, and I should think Southampton would do well to take a reasonable offer rather than lose him for free in 6 months...
Bree is currently on 9.6kpw, same as Macca and JRC, whether this is being topped up by Southampton I don't know, so we will see, but hopefully he does sign asap...
No access to the club pay roll obviously and ready to be corrected, just going by salaryleaks.com...🤷♂️
He was on 13k a week at Blackburn, Luton he was on 25k a week. His salary is going to be somewhere between that figure, otherwise he wouldn't have signed.
I've been told by multiple people, with a few having 'connections' in the football world he is on around 20k a week.
Not aimed at Naby in particular, but it irks me when people imply we don't have an idea on how much players are paid, when we have one of the most powerful tools in our hands and can roughly work it out by process of elimination and using publicised figures as a comparison.
We pay one of the lowest wages in the Championship on average, on par with Oxford United and Pompey (as expected) Kaminski is our highest paid player, and it is closer to 20k a week than it is 10k.
It just comes down to process of elimination, always. All the data is available on Championship salaries, plenty of publicised ones in recent history. We have to match those salaries to sign these players, or roughly match it, otherwise we wouldn't have the likes of Bell, Burke, Kaminski etc.
If Kaminski was on 13k at Blackburn in 2022, and 25k at Luton, he isn't going to go much lower.
It's the same as when people say "no one knows we pay some of the lowest wages" when you can literally look at the table, and immediately put 18 teams higher than us for player wages without doing an ounce of real research.
There's not much wrong with that, but that's how it is. We need to stabilise to match some of these clubs, and in time, our whole starting XI will be on 10-15k a week, not just a few, that's the nature of this league now.
What doesn’t make sense is anyone claiming a player is on an exact figure based on those websites.8 -
Sponsored links:
-
Meanwhile...post match thoughts anyone...😉3
-
We're fkn back, and we are smashing Norwich to pieces 1 nil.eastterrace6168 said:Meanwhile...post match thoughts anyone...😉5 -
The Anderson we saw in league 1 last season was not ready to play regular championship football. It’s clear from his last few games that he has improved a lot, I’d imagine Jones has seen that improvement on the training ground and realised he’s now ready for this level. I think it’s an example of good management. Karoy might have struggled if he’d played more in August/September before this improvement and it could have knocked his confidence.killerandflash said:
To be critical, Anderson has been a potential option all season, but NJ chose not to use him, and instead probably overplayed both Coventry and Doc. 1 minute of league football in the first 15 games of the season was baffling when we can use 5 subs.Dugdaleclass said:The ongoing discussions on here about Doc and/or Anderson shows that NJ is now getting options again on players and positions.
He’s an improving young player and has clearly improved on the ball over the last 5 months, which Jones will have noticed and then knew it was the right time to bring him in. Also good from Jones to realise that Karoy was nearly good enough, so didn’t need to go out loan like many were suggesting3 -
If the trend over the last 6 games continues, we’ll beat Norwich by 2 goals, then Portsmouth by 3.Braziliance said:
We're fkn back, and we are smashing Norwich to pieces 1 nil.eastterrace6168 said:Meanwhile...post match thoughts anyone...😉I’m looking forward to our last match of the season when we win by 26 goals. 🤓3 -
He has just turned 21. Still plenty of time for his type of central midfielder who depends on strength and nous. I saw something of the young Joe Aribo in him past two games. He needs to cut out some basic errors.NabySarr said:
The Anderson we saw in league 1 last season was not ready to play regular championship football. It’s clear from his last few games that he has improved a lot, I’d imagine Jones has seen that improvement on the training ground and realised he’s now ready for this level. I think it’s an example of good management. Karoy might have struggled if he’d played more in August/September before this improvement and it could have knocked his confidence.killerandflash said:
To be critical, Anderson has been a potential option all season, but NJ chose not to use him, and instead probably overplayed both Coventry and Doc. 1 minute of league football in the first 15 games of the season was baffling when we can use 5 subs.Dugdaleclass said:The ongoing discussions on here about Doc and/or Anderson shows that NJ is now getting options again on players and positions.
He’s an improving young player and has clearly improved on the ball over the last 5 months, which Jones will have noticed and then knew it was the right time to bring him in. Also good from Jones to realise that Karoy was nearly good enough, so didn’t need to go out loan like many were suggesting
Also, it may be a coincidence but having Anderson near him to keep control seems to have given Coventry more scope to go forward. Early days but if Leaburn, TC, Anderson, Fullah and Kelman can all find their feet in this division, alongside Jones, Coventry and Ramsay, we have the bones of a good, young, skilful and energetic Championship side emerging.4 -
Still think his technical ability is absolutely dire looked panicked whenever he had the ball and an Oxford player was closing him down that being said off the ball he was absolutely fantastic and can see why he’s currently preferred in the team to DochertyNabySarr said:
The Anderson we saw in league 1 last season was not ready to play regular championship football. It’s clear from his last few games that he has improved a lot, I’d imagine Jones has seen that improvement on the training ground and realised he’s now ready for this level. I think it’s an example of good management. Karoy might have struggled if he’d played more in August/September before this improvement and it could have knocked his confidence.killerandflash said:
To be critical, Anderson has been a potential option all season, but NJ chose not to use him, and instead probably overplayed both Coventry and Doc. 1 minute of league football in the first 15 games of the season was baffling when we can use 5 subs.Dugdaleclass said:The ongoing discussions on here about Doc and/or Anderson shows that NJ is now getting options again on players and positions.
He’s an improving young player and has clearly improved on the ball over the last 5 months, which Jones will have noticed and then knew it was the right time to bring him in. Also good from Jones to realise that Karoy was nearly good enough, so didn’t need to go out loan like many were suggesting0 -
Anderson was the only centre mid trying to pass the ball forward in the Oxford game,thought he looked very good and has the workrate to match it.5
-
The reason I bang on about Conor Convetry is that he has to put up with absurd slander, even now, even after all he's done. That ball to Leaburn slip your mind? Or how about - erm, let's think, our goal? Surely there wasn't a Coventry pre-assist in there? That'd really mess up your argument!Steven81 said:Anderson was the only centre mid trying to pass the ball forward in the Oxford game,thought he looked very good and has the workrate to match it.1 -
18 passes into the final third compared to Anderson’s 5. Although part of that is because he was able to get higher up the pitch while Anderson coveredLeuth said:
The reason I bang on about Conor Convetry is that he has to put up with absurd slander, even now, even after all he's done. That ball to Leaburn slip your mind? Or how about - erm, let's think, our goal? Surely there wasn't a Coventry pre-assist in there? That'd really mess up your argument!Steven81 said:Anderson was the only centre mid trying to pass the ball forward in the Oxford game,thought he looked very good and has the workrate to match it.2 -
They worked extremely well together and need a good run now. We haven't dominated a midfield like that for a whilefenaddick said:
18 passes into the final third compared to Anderson’s 5. Although part of that is because he was able to get higher up the pitch while Anderson coveredLeuth said:
The reason I bang on about Conor Convetry is that he has to put up with absurd slander, even now, even after all he's done. That ball to Leaburn slip your mind? Or how about - erm, let's think, our goal? Surely there wasn't a Coventry pre-assist in there? That'd really mess up your argument!Steven81 said:Anderson was the only centre mid trying to pass the ball forward in the Oxford game,thought he looked very good and has the workrate to match it.2
