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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 72,015
    Disappointed with Bashir's performance once again, especially with the ball. 
    Made more runs in the match than Root and Stokes. Move him up to number 4.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 19,067
    Disappointed with Bashir's performance once again, especially with the ball. 
    Flawless performance, no errors with the ball. Player of the match surely 😉 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 42,199
    Joking apart, had say Atkinson broken down in the way that Henry did, it would have been more handy to have Baker in the side rather than Bashir. Ignoring the dubious nature of the pitch itself, the weather forecast surely indicated that this strip wasn't going to become one that was going to be worn to the extent that spin would become a must. Not one ball of spin in the match says it all.  
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 72,015
    Joking apart, had say Atkinson broken down in the way that Henry did, it would have been more handy to have Baker in the side rather than Bashir. Ignoring the dubious nature of the pitch itself, the weather forecast surely indicated that this strip wasn't going to become one that was going to be worn to the extent that spin would become a must. Not one ball of spin in the match says it all.  
    We still had Stokes, who could have bowled more overs. Especially as he's now batting at 7, so in a "bowling all rounder" position. 5 seamers would have been excessive. 

    Indeed with that pitch, we could have picked another batsman instead of Bashir.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,878
    50% refund and nearly home.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,754
    England win as their bowlers use a revolutionary new tactic .. bowling at the stumps !!
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 7,577
    Decent day all in all for a free ticket in the members!
  • Good win, but it doesn’t feel like a real Test match when the scores are lower than T20 scores. 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 42,199
    England Lions were thrashed yesterday by 9 wickets. So, what do you do when that happens? You add Kent's Ben Dawkins and Ekansh Singh to the squad. Of course. 
    This series has become a real mismatch. Having lost the first game by 9 wickets, the Lions were defeated by 10 wickets yesterday. That's not totally surprising given that all eleven of the South African side have played full international cricket whereas some of ours haven't even established themselves in the county side.  

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  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 9,854
    England Lions were thrashed yesterday by 9 wickets. So, what do you do when that happens? You add Kent's Ben Dawkins and Ekansh Singh to the squad. Of course. 
    This series has become a real mismatch. Having lost the first game by 9 wickets, the Lions were defeated by 10 wickets yesterday. That's not totally surprising given that all eleven of the South African side have played full international cricket whereas some of ours haven't even established themselves in the county side.  
    I genuinely don't get the point of this series. South Africa have turned up with a proper A side full of experienced quality players who are probably unlucky not to get in their 1st XI and the Lions is a mismash of bright young county talents learning their trade and some complete wildcards that aren't even regular for their county. 

    Think the ECB need a bit of rethink here on what constitutes a Lions side. Go and weaken Surrey for a few games and play the likes of Jacks,Lawrence , both Curran brothers etc. Don't mind having Potts and Mahmood as a part of the bowling attack but the batting needs a couple of wise heads, this is nothing against the likes of Tribe,Coles,Mayes and Dawkins who all have incredibly bright futures but the only senior bat in that entire squad is Jordan Cox. 


  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 42,199
    MarcusH26 said:
    England Lions were thrashed yesterday by 9 wickets. So, what do you do when that happens? You add Kent's Ben Dawkins and Ekansh Singh to the squad. Of course. 
    This series has become a real mismatch. Having lost the first game by 9 wickets, the Lions were defeated by 10 wickets yesterday. That's not totally surprising given that all eleven of the South African side have played full international cricket whereas some of ours haven't even established themselves in the county side.  
    I genuinely don't get the point of this series. South Africa have turned up with a proper A side full of experienced quality players who are probably unlucky not to get in their 1st XI and the Lions is a mismash of bright young county talents learning their trade and some complete wildcards that aren't even regular for their county. 

    Think the ECB need a bit of rethink here on what constitutes a Lions side. Go and weaken Surrey for a few games and play the likes of Jacks,Lawrence , both Curran brothers etc. Don't mind having Potts and Mahmood as a part of the bowling attack but the batting needs a couple of wise heads, this is nothing against the likes of Tribe,Coles,Mayes and Dawkins who all have incredibly bright futures but the only senior bat in that entire squad is Jordan Cox. 


    And after getting a bad bout of splinters in the IPL for three months where he didn't play a single game, these are his first matches of the season. Essex must be thrilled. 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 9,854
    MarcusH26 said:
    England Lions were thrashed yesterday by 9 wickets. So, what do you do when that happens? You add Kent's Ben Dawkins and Ekansh Singh to the squad. Of course. 
    This series has become a real mismatch. Having lost the first game by 9 wickets, the Lions were defeated by 10 wickets yesterday. That's not totally surprising given that all eleven of the South African side have played full international cricket whereas some of ours haven't even established themselves in the county side.  
    I genuinely don't get the point of this series. South Africa have turned up with a proper A side full of experienced quality players who are probably unlucky not to get in their 1st XI and the Lions is a mismash of bright young county talents learning their trade and some complete wildcards that aren't even regular for their county. 

    Think the ECB need a bit of rethink here on what constitutes a Lions side. Go and weaken Surrey for a few games and play the likes of Jacks,Lawrence , both Curran brothers etc. Don't mind having Potts and Mahmood as a part of the bowling attack but the batting needs a couple of wise heads, this is nothing against the likes of Tribe,Coles,Mayes and Dawkins who all have incredibly bright futures but the only senior bat in that entire squad is Jordan Cox. 


    And after getting a bad bout of splinters in the IPL for three months where he didn't play a single game, these are his first matches of the season. Essex must be thrilled. 
    Absolutely. Essex might get him for a couple of Blast games and maybe next week's County Champ fixtures but then he'll be off to the Hundred. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 72,015
    MarcusH26 said:
    England Lions were thrashed yesterday by 9 wickets. So, what do you do when that happens? You add Kent's Ben Dawkins and Ekansh Singh to the squad. Of course. 
    This series has become a real mismatch. Having lost the first game by 9 wickets, the Lions were defeated by 10 wickets yesterday. That's not totally surprising given that all eleven of the South African side have played full international cricket whereas some of ours haven't even established themselves in the county side.  
    I genuinely don't get the point of this series. South Africa have turned up with a proper A side full of experienced quality players who are probably unlucky not to get in their 1st XI and the Lions is a mismash of bright young county talents learning their trade and some complete wildcards that aren't even regular for their county. 

    Think the ECB need a bit of rethink here on what constitutes a Lions side. Go and weaken Surrey for a few games and play the likes of Jacks,Lawrence , both Curran brothers etc. Don't mind having Potts and Mahmood as a part of the bowling attack but the batting needs a couple of wise heads, this is nothing against the likes of Tribe,Coles,Mayes and Dawkins who all have incredibly bright futures but the only senior bat in that entire squad is Jordan Cox. 


    It's always difficult picking a team for such games with our crowded calendar, when the main benefit is for the touring team, experiencing new conditions. The touring team rightfully wants strong opposition, but it's smack in the middle of our domestic season, and counties naturally wouldn't want to lose players to such "non" event matches, having already lost players to the IPL.

    The reverse applies when it's the Lions touring in the winter, and we are the ones wanting strong opposition.

  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 42,199
    MarcusH26 said:
    England Lions were thrashed yesterday by 9 wickets. So, what do you do when that happens? You add Kent's Ben Dawkins and Ekansh Singh to the squad. Of course. 
    This series has become a real mismatch. Having lost the first game by 9 wickets, the Lions were defeated by 10 wickets yesterday. That's not totally surprising given that all eleven of the South African side have played full international cricket whereas some of ours haven't even established themselves in the county side.  
    I genuinely don't get the point of this series. South Africa have turned up with a proper A side full of experienced quality players who are probably unlucky not to get in their 1st XI and the Lions is a mismash of bright young county talents learning their trade and some complete wildcards that aren't even regular for their county. 

    Think the ECB need a bit of rethink here on what constitutes a Lions side. Go and weaken Surrey for a few games and play the likes of Jacks,Lawrence , both Curran brothers etc. Don't mind having Potts and Mahmood as a part of the bowling attack but the batting needs a couple of wise heads, this is nothing against the likes of Tribe,Coles,Mayes and Dawkins who all have incredibly bright futures but the only senior bat in that entire squad is Jordan Cox. 


    It's always difficult picking a team for such games with our crowded calendar, when the main benefit is for the touring team, experiencing new conditions. The touring team rightfully wants strong opposition, but it's smack in the middle of our domestic season, and counties naturally wouldn't want to lose players to such "non" event matches, having already lost players to the IPL.

    The reverse applies when it's the Lions touring in the winter, and we are the ones wanting strong opposition.

    That didn't happen in Australia - the Cricket Australia side beat the Lions by 8 wickets and the Australia A side beat the Lions by an innings and 127 runs.  
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 72,015
    MarcusH26 said:
    England Lions were thrashed yesterday by 9 wickets. So, what do you do when that happens? You add Kent's Ben Dawkins and Ekansh Singh to the squad. Of course. 
    This series has become a real mismatch. Having lost the first game by 9 wickets, the Lions were defeated by 10 wickets yesterday. That's not totally surprising given that all eleven of the South African side have played full international cricket whereas some of ours haven't even established themselves in the county side.  
    I genuinely don't get the point of this series. South Africa have turned up with a proper A side full of experienced quality players who are probably unlucky not to get in their 1st XI and the Lions is a mismash of bright young county talents learning their trade and some complete wildcards that aren't even regular for their county. 

    Think the ECB need a bit of rethink here on what constitutes a Lions side. Go and weaken Surrey for a few games and play the likes of Jacks,Lawrence , both Curran brothers etc. Don't mind having Potts and Mahmood as a part of the bowling attack but the batting needs a couple of wise heads, this is nothing against the likes of Tribe,Coles,Mayes and Dawkins who all have incredibly bright futures but the only senior bat in that entire squad is Jordan Cox. 


    It's always difficult picking a team for such games with our crowded calendar, when the main benefit is for the touring team, experiencing new conditions. The touring team rightfully wants strong opposition, but it's smack in the middle of our domestic season, and counties naturally wouldn't want to lose players to such "non" event matches, having already lost players to the IPL.

    The reverse applies when it's the Lions touring in the winter, and we are the ones wanting strong opposition.

    That didn't happen in Australia - the Cricket Australia side beat the Lions by 8 wickets and the Australia A side beat the Lions by an innings and 127 runs.  
    I think the Australian cricket calendar has more space in it to allow domestic players to play in such games?

    It's a bit messy having multi format series, as if it was just the 2 red ball matches, then you could schedule them during the Blast, and call up a couple of experienced red ball pros like say Ben Compton and Sam Northeast. Similarly if it was just a white ball series, that could be scheduled during a period when the county championship was on, and you could use white ball players who missed the IPL.
  • billysboots
    billysboots Posts: 1,632
    When our Pros and club cricketers go to Australia for the winter do they ever play rep cricket out there ? I remember beefy going over and playing for Queensland. Obviously that was a long time ago, does it happen these days ? 
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 27,679
    Not really, they play Grade cricket which is level below Sheffield Shield

    they have so few state teams they don't wanna give up spaces to overseas players 
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,754
    MrOneLung said:
    Not really, they play Grade cricket which is level below Sheffield Shield

    they have so few state teams they don't wanna give up spaces to overseas players 
    They'll play the occasional 'superstar', probably to bring in the crowds. As with county cricket the states are not that well supported spectator wise in the 'long game'
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,636
    The England and Wales Cricket Board are investigating an incident in a nightclub involving captain Ben Stokes and pace bowler Gus Atkinson following the first Test against New Zealand.

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  • Notts_Addick
    Notts_Addick Posts: 387
    edited 6:10PM
    Chizz said:
    The England and Wales Cricket Board are investigating an incident in a nightclub involving captain Ben Stokes and pace bowler Gus Atkinson following the first Test against New Zealand.
    I've never been to bothered about what players get to outside of the sport as generally speaking they are all adults and professional athletes. 

    However, there has been a big thing made about this 'midnight curfew' with a clear acceptance that things went over the top on the Ashes Tour. Whether the curfew is the right way to go about things is up for debate but clearly they have decided on this internally and you would assume Stokes as the captain has had some input on it.

    The spotlight has also been well and truly on this England team the last few months as a result of that tour and clearly their actions are going to be scrutinized more than ever as a result of the poor display down under and the general feeling the culture is a bit 'slack'.

    It seems very unlikely the cricket regulator has been informed if this was just a couple of lads staying out an hour past curfew and clearly something has gone off to result in a press release and the regulator being informed.

    I always wonder with things like this quite what were they thinking? How on earth did they think this was a good idea? Why did nobody around them have a quiet word and tell them to have a few beers in the hotel room as opposed to going out on the lash? 

    It just seems blindingly obvious that going out on the lash was always going to result in negative headlines. They are both very public figures (Especially Stokes) so it should have been obvious they would get noticed. It is really hard to have much sympathy when the decision making is so poor, irrespective of whether this was just a breach or the curfew or something more serious.

    Surely this is a case of just using your head and not doing anything to draw more scrutiny on yourselves, especially when there was a positive result against New Zealand. This just attracts negative headlines when they should have been basking in the victory.

  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,822
    It's being reported they are both going to miss the second test
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 72,015
    Rob Key to take strong action by dropping both Stokes and Atkinson, and recalling Zak Crawley.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 19,067
    So Harry Brook, who was sanctioned due to an incident at a nightclub, is going to replace Stokes as captain next week because the latter was involved in an incident in a nightclub?
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 9,854
    fenaddick said:
    So Harry Brook, who was sanctioned due to an incident at a nightclub, is going to replace Stokes as captain next week because the latter was involved in an incident in a nightclub?
    Yeah pretty much. The circle of nightclub incidents. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 72,015
    fenaddick said:
    So Harry Brook, who was sanctioned due to an incident at a nightclub, is going to replace Stokes as captain next week because the latter was involved in an incident in a nightclub?
    With Ben Duckett as his deputy?  :D
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 42,199
    When our Pros and club cricketers go to Australia for the winter do they ever play rep cricket out there ? I remember beefy going over and playing for Queensland. Obviously that was a long time ago, does it happen these days ? 

    MrOneLung said:
    Not really, they play Grade cricket which is level below Sheffield Shield

    they have so few state teams they don't wanna give up spaces to overseas players 

    Although the Australian Cricket Board in theory allow overseas to play State cricket, it does not happen in practice. With only six sides they don't need them. That said, because there aren't so many State matches, first Grade cricket is littered with both home and overseas pros and even international cricketers.

    Marnus Labushagne, for example, has played for his club some games for almost all of the last decade. Last season, for example, the Redlands first team at times had Labuschagne, Jimmy Peirson, Sam Heazlett, Mac Wright, James Bazley and Jack Sinfield who all played State cricket too. You just don't get half a dozen current county players turning out in the same club side here and there are a lot more of them too.  
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 19,067
    Multiple places reporting the nightclub incident involves players from Saracens and Cricinfo reporting that Stokes in considering resigning his captaincy
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,878
    When will they ever learn?
    When will they ever learn?
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 72,015
    fenaddick said:
    Multiple places reporting the nightclub incident involves players from Saracens and Cricinfo reporting that Stokes in considering resigning his captaincy
    Saracens lost on Sunday, so I assume it was an end of season drinks for them.