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He did not say would not spend, but would only spend large sums if it improved club revenue. But would not widen the concourse behind the west stand as that would not increase revenue.valleynick66 said:So what did we learn / get confirmed:
1. Edward’s won’t play again this season
2. maybe (and only maybe) 1 or 2 still to come in but some will go out
3. long list of things to fix / improve in and around the stadium but won’t spend hugely whilst we don’t own it - maybe the PA system will get looked at this summer
4. CEO interviews ongoing but didn’t sound convinced the right person has been found yet
5. The dead pigeons will be there until at least the summer - needs a cherry picker on the pitch to gain access
6. Will Abbot not being replaced - we have enough staff in the wider back room team
7. Women’s team will be supported - a big interest from the US owners
8. Former players dinner / event in the offing / not sure yet on a player of the season dinner
9. We have only the 3rd lowest playing budget - I thought it was suggested (but may have misinterpreted) on that basis NJ is only expected to avoid relegation
10. some squad acquisitions are with an eye on the future and not just the current season - I think Apter was referred / implied to be in this context (at least stated if not believed)
Also said they are looking to sell a share of the club, but has no idea where the twenty million pound sum comes from. They are happy that they extend the lease and are happy with their working relationship with the lease holder.
Are not looking to buy the ground and training ground as that would be tens of millions of pounds that would then not be available to the foot ball club.
They are still wanting to get the academy level 1 status as that means we get more money for the players we sell from it.
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That’s what you call a BHAG - Big Hairy Audacious Goal.TelMc32 said:Anyone else pick up on Gavin Carter saying his ambition for Charlton is for us to be the 4th biggest team in London. No timeframe on that one though.I’d like us to catch up with and overtake Millwall first.12 -
did they really say our injuries are in line with other clubs in the Championship , what you mean we're not the unluckiest team in the world with injuries and no other teams get them to the extent we do
Next you'll be telling me everyone else gets shit refs who are biased against them, no way not having it11 -
Oh......is it really yellow then ?aliwibble said:Asked about the pitch - Rodwell: "the pitch looks a bit different on the TV than it does in the ground"0 -
Unbeaten all season & last match won 10-0.SDAddick said:
Replicate that with the means team & even I would be happy.9 -
So when would that have been.......Feb 1st ??? Then targets 2,3 & 4 have gone and we are left hunting in the bargain basement bins.Callumcafc said:
Clear from Rodwell’s later comments that Liverpool weren’t prepared to let him leave until he cleared certain thresholds in training and minutes for their U21s etc.Clem_Snide said:Rodwell - Luke Chambers was always our first choice 🤣🤣🤣
If he was truly our number 1 target then it makes sense that we would have waited for Liverpool to be satisfied. Otherwise we move on to target 2 or 3 or 4.
And why did we think a player who had been out injured for 7 months AND who Liverpool wanted to make sure had recovered properly was our No 1 target.
That thinking left us signing Rousillion 2 months ago 🙄🤦♂️7 -
This.charltonbob said:
Is he inexperienced ? Yes. Is he injury prone ? Well he's had two pretty long lay offs with his back problem & hasn't actually played a competitive game since April 2025. Where have I written him off ? I pointed out his inexperience when most of us seem to agree that in this relegation fight that we are facing, experienced championship players are required to pull us through. We already have enough defenders who are an accident waiting to happen, do we really need another ? A youngster who hasn't played a competitive game in 9 months & you're wondering why I'm concerned that Luke Chambers was always our first choice ?Callumcafc said:
Maybe wait to see him play before you write him off?charltonbob said:
If an inexperienced, injury prone player is/was our number 1 choice who the hell was our target 2/3& 4 ? Phil Warman ?Callumcafc said:
Clear from Rodwell’s later comments that Liverpool weren’t prepared to let him leave until he cleared certain thresholds in training and minutes for their U21s etc.Clem_Snide said:Rodwell - Luke Chambers was always our first choice 🤣🤣🤣
If he was truly our number 1 target then it makes sense that we would have waited for Liverpool to be satisfied. Otherwise we move on to target 2 or 3 or 4.
I would have thought we had learnt with Burke & Bell that signing players who had been out before with injuries might mean they are susceptible to more injuries.
The problem with this type of Q&A session is you cant ask a follow up question. They can say what they want & there is no right of reply.
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That's ok for him.....he doesn't have to pay to watch us. He might think differently if he had to pay £30 a ticket (plus travel for away games).Clem_Snide said:Both Rodwell and Carter confirmed that the football KPI is based solely on points.
Rodwell implied that he didn’t care how we played and 50 points was the target.8 -
Fairly sure it's the first time they have admitted they had no real intention of buying The Valley or training ground any time soon and don't even know what the cost would be.
Remember Charlie Methven always giving incredibly disingenuous answers when questioned on the subject which made fans get excited we were discussing a purchase.4 -
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Is that for the women's game?shirty5 said:12, 500 season tickets sold this season3 -
Oxford I'd guess.msomerton said:
He said we have the third lowest player budget in the Championship, we Know Wednesday have the lowest, so who is the other club below us.valleynick66 said:So what did we learn / get confirmed:
1. Edward’s won’t play again this season
2. maybe (and only maybe) 1 or 2 still to come in but some will go out
3. long list of things to fix / improve in and around the stadium but won’t spend hugely whilst we don’t own it - maybe the PA system will get looked at this summer
4. CEO interviews ongoing but didn’t sound convinced the right person has been found yet
5. The dead pigeons will be there until at least the summer - needs a cherry picker on the pitch to gain access
6. Will Abbot not being replaced - we have enough staff in the wider back room team
7. Women’s team will be supported - a big interest from the US owners
8. Former players dinner / event in the offing / not sure yet on a player of the season dinner
9. We have only the 3rd lowest playing budget - I thought it was suggested (but may have misinterpreted) on that basis NJ is only expected to avoid relegation
10. some squad acquisitions are with an eye on the future and not just the current season - I think Apter was referred / implied to be in this context (at least stated if not believed)1 -
The link with the ?t=random number bit should take you to that number of seconds in the video, but for some reason the site strips that bit off when dealing with the code. It's roughly 1hr 10mins and 30s in.PragueAddick said:@aliwibble that's the whole video, did you try to post a shorter clip?.
It's worth people seeing how Ed Warrick answers. That boy has clearly been on a lot of media training courses. He may therefore just be being prudent on camera, but I fear we see why we still have no answers from the Met, whereas just a letter from Chelsea Supporters Trust triggers a full internal Met inquiry into the complaints.1 -
Did they say anything about the Brighton offer for Mbick?0
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I would just like to beat Millwall firstWeegie Addick said:
That’s what you call a BHAG - Big Hairy Audacious Goal.TelMc32 said:Anyone else pick up on Gavin Carter saying his ambition for Charlton is for us to be the 4th biggest team in London. No timeframe on that one though.I’d like us to catch up with and overtake Millwall first.4 -
Yes. Basically not for sale unless they get a silly money offer.ct_addick said:Did they say anything about the Brighton offer for Mbick?7 -
And you could say the opposite approach gave us Matt Penney! Damned if they do, damned if they don’t.golfaddick said:
So when would that have been.......Feb 1st ??? Then targets 2,3 & 4 have gone and we are left hunting in the bargain basement bins.Callumcafc said:
Clear from Rodwell’s later comments that Liverpool weren’t prepared to let him leave until he cleared certain thresholds in training and minutes for their U21s etc.Clem_Snide said:Rodwell - Luke Chambers was always our first choice 🤣🤣🤣
If he was truly our number 1 target then it makes sense that we would have waited for Liverpool to be satisfied. Otherwise we move on to target 2 or 3 or 4.
And why did we think a player who had been out injured for 7 months AND who Liverpool wanted to make sure had recovered properly was our No 1 target.
That thinking left us signing Rousillion 2 months ago 🙄🤦♂️
You can agree or disagree with the reasoning behind going after this bloke but they clearly believe he has talent that wouldn’t otherwise be available to us in this window.Let’s wait and see him play but I am personally excited - expect him to show his class very early on.4 -
Disappointing to hear Carter, a Charlton fan, say there is no financial value in ever offering any free coaches to away matches due to the home team keeping 95% of gate receipts.Not everything has to be about value. It’s a nice touch and a thank you to the fans, who would be very grateful. To offer it once or twice a season is fair and reasonable I think. I’m sure our billionaire owner can afford a few coaches once or twice a season23
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Starting Saturday.Weegie Addick said:
That’s what you call a BHAG - Big Hairy Audacious Goal.TelMc32 said:Anyone else pick up on Gavin Carter saying his ambition for Charlton is for us to be the 4th biggest team in London. No timeframe on that one though.I’d like us to catch up with and overtake Millwall first.2 -
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I quite like how they front up and tbf they seem pretty sincere to me.
However, I was a little shocked of how proud they are at having the third lowest budget in the division. I sorta get the 'look how well we're doing on the money we spend', but most fans would want them to dig deeper and do better.
There was quite a big section on this morning's 'Wake up to Money' on Radio 5 which centred on the Deloitte's football money league. The guest speaker was quite succinct in saying, (I paraphrase) 'Get better players, sell more tickets, generate more commercial business, make more money. It seems very simple
https://www.deloitte.com/uk/en/services/consulting-financial/analysis/deloitte-football-money-league.html
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We all critique and pull apart what’s said because that’s human nature. At the end of the day though it still gives us more than we had before the session, so it’s worthwhile, and no one comes across badly.I struggle to understand the ownership groups approach tbh. The club is unquestionably in a better place since they took over so I’m appreciative and acknowledging of that. But I just don’t get the strategy and my gut feel is there just isn’t the willingness to put the necessary funds there. Sensible and sustainable yes, but if we drop division our income will drop by around £12-15m a year, with a most likely higher wage bill. I just don’t think we’ve done enough to give ourselves a real chance of firmly staying in the division and planning for the next phase, it may well come down to good fortune if we do.31
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Aside from the offerings from the execs. I thought Lucy played a really good role and we are incredibly lucky to have such a good professional as Charlotte associated with our club. She is smart, warm and engaging, aside from the comms work she does a tremendous amount of good work as an ambassador of the club going into local schools etc. We were lucky getting a pro the level of Minto so heavily involved at the time Sky had ditched him, he was struggling for comms work and Covid / Charlton TV evolved. We are similarly lucky to have Charlotte so involved given her wider national comms work.
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I’m wondering how much the strategy would change should we stay up this season?AFKABartram said:We all critique and pull apart what’s said because that’s human nature. At the end of the day though it still gives us more than we had before the session, so it’s worthwhile, and no one comes across badly.I struggle to understand the ownership groups approach tbh. The club is unquestionably in a better place since they took over so I’m appreciative and acknowledging of that. But I just don’t get the strategy and my gut feel is there just isn’t the willingness to put the necessary funds there. Sensible and sustainable yes, but if we drop division our income will drop by around £12-15m a year, with a most likely higher wage bill. I just don’t think we’ve done enough to give ourselves a real chance of firmly staying in the division and planning for the next phase, it may well come down to good fortune if we do.1 -
but he's not wrong, he says that they are selling a large part of the away allocation already so free coaches would not make a huge difference to numbers, just subsidise the cost of those already going. Whilst thats nice to thank the support, its more important to focus the money on areas that will get the best impact, and I would say thats promoting home support, where we keep 95% of the gate money.stjohnshill said:Disappointing to hear Carter, a Charlton fan, say there is no financial value in ever offering any free coaches to away matches due to the home team keeping 95% of gate receipts.Not everything has to be about value. It’s a nice touch and a thank you to the fans, who would be very grateful. To offer it once or twice a season is fair and reasonable I think. I’m sure our billionaire owner can afford a few coaches once or twice a season12 -
It will only get harder. We saw that during the prem years. When you get promoted you get a big budget bump that gives you initial scope. Stay up and 12 months on there’s three teams coming up getting that bump you’ll be competing that summer signing wise with, plus potentially more teams in the division carrying parachute payments.Sword65pf said:
I’m wondering how much the strategy would change should we stay up this season?AFKABartram said:We all critique and pull apart what’s said because that’s human nature. At the end of the day though it still gives us more than we had before the session, so it’s worthwhile, and no one comes across badly.I struggle to understand the ownership groups approach tbh. The club is unquestionably in a better place since they took over so I’m appreciative and acknowledging of that. But I just don’t get the strategy and my gut feel is there just isn’t the willingness to put the necessary funds there. Sensible and sustainable yes, but if we drop division our income will drop by around £12-15m a year, with a most likely higher wage bill. I just don’t think we’ve done enough to give ourselves a real chance of firmly staying in the division and planning for the next phase, it may well come down to good fortune if we do.
i don’t get the viewpoint that stabilising in the Championship then provides the platform for further. Your income generally plateaus and your wage bill steadily increases. Only sustainable way is decent player sales.4 -
Which is what clubs who have come up without bottomless pits have done, be it Brighton, Brentford, Cov or Millwall, you compliment the increased central revenue, by buying well, and selling even betterAFKABartram said:
It will only get harder. We saw that during the prem years. When you get promoted you get a big budget bump that gives you initial scope. Stay up and 12 months on there’s three teams coming up getting that bump you’ll be competing that summer signing wise with, plus potentially more teams in the division carrying parachute payments.Sword65pf said:
I’m wondering how much the strategy would change should we stay up this season?AFKABartram said:We all critique and pull apart what’s said because that’s human nature. At the end of the day though it still gives us more than we had before the session, so it’s worthwhile, and no one comes across badly.I struggle to understand the ownership groups approach tbh. The club is unquestionably in a better place since they took over so I’m appreciative and acknowledging of that. But I just don’t get the strategy and my gut feel is there just isn’t the willingness to put the necessary funds there. Sensible and sustainable yes, but if we drop division our income will drop by around £12-15m a year, with a most likely higher wage bill. I just don’t think we’ve done enough to give ourselves a real chance of firmly staying in the division and planning for the next phase, it may well come down to good fortune if we do.
i don’t get the viewpoint that stabilising in the Championship then provides the platform for further. Your income generally plateaus and your wage bill steadily increases. Only sustainable way is decent player sales.8 -
From Spencer Jay on facebook. Not comprehensive as others on here have mentioned other inportant points but thanks to him regardless.
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Did I hear right and Carter say something along the lines of not selling season tickets in certain areas to increase matchday demand?1
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Thought this the other day when watched on tv! Looks terrible and harder to play on!The Red Robin said:
Yeh, worse.aliwibble said:Asked about the pitch - Rodwell: "the pitch looks a bit different on the TV than it does in the ground"0
