POST-MATCH THREAD: Millwall V Charlton Athletic: Saturday 24th January 2026: KO 12:30

guinnessaddick

The Red Robin said:

Oggy Red said:

altrinchamaddick said:

Looking at the players marks I'm surprised the newbie, Chambers is getting high marks. His defending was appalling, standing way off any attacking player. I know he's been injured for a year, but I was not enthused by my first sight of him.
Early days, I know, but if he is going to be our left wing back saviour he needs to get up to speed quickly.

Bleddy 'ell, give the poor lad a chance. Chambers is highly rated by Liverpool and certainly proved his pedigree by being selected consistently through all levels of the England development squads.

He's been out injured for best part of a year, has had no competitive matches, doesn't even yet know his new team mates names - and thrown into a losing side shapeless and clueless.

He shouldn't have been thrown in yet - and only started the match because Jones is so desperate for a LWB, any LWB.

Allow the lad a proper chance to prove himself 

The fact is, Chambers isn’t fit enough to go straight into a side that desperately needs players ready to play 90 minutes. If he’s first choice for us then I worry about our scouting and recruitment strategy. We’re shopping in the bargain basement - not not long ago Nathan Jones was telling everyone our owners were ‘minted’ - more nonsense.

Jones was also against loans as he didn’t want to develop other team’s players.

Oggy Red

golfaddick said:

Oggy Red said:

altrinchamaddick said:

Looking at the players marks I'm surprised the newbie, Chambers is getting high marks. His defending was appalling, standing way off any attacking player. I know he's been injured for a year, but I was not enthused by my first sight of him.
Early days, I know, but if he is going to be our left wing back saviour he needs to get up to speed quickly.

He's been out injured for best part of a year, has had no competitive matches, 

Which making him our first choice for a LWB even more disgraceful. 

If it was me, I wouldn't have started Chambers either, Golfie - it wasn't fair to the lad with his lack of match fitness.

But I sort of get NJ's line of thinking ... he needed a recognised LB/LWB to keep the shape of the defence.
And Chambers as a specialist LB was worth the gamble for 45 minutes.

IMO in the 1st half, it wasn't Chambers who was the problem ...... more like dropping Coventry,  NJ's unbalanced midfield selection, Jones switching off and the awful amateur like performance of Ramsey.

SoundAsa£

The way I see it is that he likes players who play to the style of football he’s trying to achieve, that’s all very well…….because the problem with that is we have too many players with little or no flair, just about the entire squad, they all look to have the same style and approach in their locker. How many players when they are in possession have you on the edge of your seat!
TC is the only player we have that looks like he might actually create something, though even he is very hit and miss…..and it must be said just lately, mostly miss. His success rate for crosses into the box are in a word…..pitiful. So the only player we have with a modicum of attacking flair is him and he’s pretty crap most of the time to be honest.
That leaves us with only two players that are truthfully worth their place…..Loyd Jones and Kaminski and they are both in defence FFS!
What a colossal shyte fest…….he has created too much attention to a very very defensive imbalance as compared to virtually no creativity.
In a nutshell……piss poor recrutement.

The Red Robin

guinnessaddick said:

The Red Robin said:

Oggy Red said:

altrinchamaddick said:

Looking at the players marks I'm surprised the newbie, Chambers is getting high marks. His defending was appalling, standing way off any attacking player. I know he's been injured for a year, but I was not enthused by my first sight of him.
Early days, I know, but if he is going to be our left wing back saviour he needs to get up to speed quickly.

Bleddy 'ell, give the poor lad a chance. Chambers is highly rated by Liverpool and certainly proved his pedigree by being selected consistently through all levels of the England development squads.

He's been out injured for best part of a year, has had no competitive matches, doesn't even yet know his new team mates names - and thrown into a losing side shapeless and clueless.

He shouldn't have been thrown in yet - and only started the match because Jones is so desperate for a LWB, any LWB.

Allow the lad a proper chance to prove himself 

The fact is, Chambers isn’t fit enough to go straight into a side that desperately needs players ready to play 90 minutes. If he’s first choice for us then I worry about our scouting and recruitment strategy. We’re shopping in the bargain basement - not not long ago Nathan Jones was telling everyone our owners were ‘minted’ - more nonsense.

Jones was also against loans as he didn’t want to develop other team’s players.

Then he should try developing his own. 

CaptainRobbo

SoundAsa£ said:

The way I see it is that he likes players who play to the style of football he’s trying to achieve…….the problem with that we have too many players with little or no flair, just about the entire squad, they all look to have the same style and approach in their locker. How many players when they are in possession have you on the edge of your seat!
TC is the only player we have that looks like he might actually create something, though even he is very hit and miss…..and it must be said just lately, mostly miss. His success rate for crosses into the box are in a word…..pitiful. So the only player we have with a modicum of attacking flair is him and he’s pretty crap most of the time to be honest.
That leaves us with only two players that are truthfully worth their place…..Loyd Jones and Kaminski and they are both in defence FFS!
What a colossal shyte fest…….he has created too much attention to a very very defensive imbalance as compared to virtually no creativity.
In a nutshell……piss poor recrutement.

Every team we come up against will know that they have a free run down our left hand side.

ThomasOliver3

why can't we sign anyone from outside of England. The rest of the Championship seems to find value and quality. Why can't we... NJ seems to have an aversion to signings from anywhere outside of the UK. Please widen to the pool of talent we can fish from

fenaddick

The Red Robin said:

guinnessaddick said:

The Red Robin said:

Oggy Red said:

altrinchamaddick said:

Looking at the players marks I'm surprised the newbie, Chambers is getting high marks. His defending was appalling, standing way off any attacking player. I know he's been injured for a year, but I was not enthused by my first sight of him.
Early days, I know, but if he is going to be our left wing back saviour he needs to get up to speed quickly.

Bleddy 'ell, give the poor lad a chance. Chambers is highly rated by Liverpool and certainly proved his pedigree by being selected consistently through all levels of the England development squads.

He's been out injured for best part of a year, has had no competitive matches, doesn't even yet know his new team mates names - and thrown into a losing side shapeless and clueless.

He shouldn't have been thrown in yet - and only started the match because Jones is so desperate for a LWB, any LWB.

Allow the lad a proper chance to prove himself 

The fact is, Chambers isn’t fit enough to go straight into a side that desperately needs players ready to play 90 minutes. If he’s first choice for us then I worry about our scouting and recruitment strategy. We’re shopping in the bargain basement - not not long ago Nathan Jones was telling everyone our owners were ‘minted’ - more nonsense.

Jones was also against loans as he didn’t want to develop other team’s players.

Then he should try developing his own. 

Like he has with Leaburn? Every time he tries to develop players they get pelters on here and people say they aren’t good enough. If you want him to develop players you need to give the players a chance 

bobmunro

ThomasOliver3 said:

why can't we sign anyone from outside of England. The rest of the Championship seems to find value and quality. Why can't we... NJ seems to have an aversion to signings from anywhere outside of the UK. Please widen to the pool of talent we can fish from

According to Rodwell, Chapple was recently in Turkey and Japan scouting. I think they were the countries mentioned.

SuedeAdidas

ThomasOliver3 said:

why can't we sign anyone from outside of England. The rest of the Championship seems to find value and quality. Why can't we... NJ seems to have an aversion to signings from anywhere outside of the UK. Please widen to the pool of talent we can fish from

You spelt Luton wrong. 

Gisappointed

If we continue to play NJ's blinkered 3-5-2 the creativity comes from proper wing backs, and makes the CMs job easier, but we do need more physicality in that area, not slowish 5'9" journeymen. I would like to see Zach or Gough tried in the No.6 role, or perhaps both in 6 & 8.

CaptainRobbo

bobmunro said:

ThomasOliver3 said:

why can't we sign anyone from outside of England. The rest of the Championship seems to find value and quality. Why can't we... NJ seems to have an aversion to signings from anywhere outside of the UK. Please widen to the pool of talent we can fish from

According to Rodwell, Chapple was recently in Turkey and Japan scouting. I think they were the countries mentioned.

Nice work if you can get it 

NabySarr

Gisappointed said:

If we continue to play NJ's blinkered 3-5-2 the creativity comes from proper wing backs, and makes the CMs job easier, but we do need more physicality in that area, not slowish 5'9" journeymen. I would like to see Zach or Gough tried in the No.6 role, or perhaps both in 6 & 8.

I like giving our own a chance. But a midfield of Mitchell and Gough wouldn’t even be good in league 2

ElfsborgAddick

CaptainRobbo said:

BigDiddy said:

SouthLincsAddick said:

golfaddick said:

Charlton and on said:

Why nullify our best player, Campbell, at half time? 

Shit set up, shit midfield and no left side. You get what you deserve.

Imagine if you could sign a fit LWB that could come in & play 90 mins straight off. No need to chop & change during the game and might give you a chance to win the match.

But you all felt it wasn't possible yo sign someone on Jan 1st so we had to wait 3 weeks to sign someone who could only play 45 mins. 

I know I'm seen as some some of idiot.....but tell me I'm.wrong. 

Usual ill informed drivel, ever tried to sign a player on Jan the 1st Golfie? Thought not, absolutely clueless!

The left side problem has been evident for months - it’s a scandal the club have done nothing to resolve that problem.

We need to strengthen in several areas, but the left side problem will cost us our place in this division.

Don't worry about it, Chambers may be up to match fitness by March.

I bet he don't start the game at Leicester.

Weegie Addick

Really hoping Bell will be back for Leicester as that would bring out the best in Chambers too.

ElfsborgAddick

rememberbillybonds said:

My view is Jones is a good manager. I want him to stay. 

A lot of whats gone wrong is” the roll of the dice” which will change.
I believe he is a good motivator.
just remember the dross we have had as managers in the last 18 years. He is probably the only decent one along with Bowyer.

You forgot Chris Powell.

CaptainRobbo

Weegie Addick said:

Really hoping Bell will be back for Leicester as that would bring out the best in Chambers too.

I think the fitness of Bell could make or break our season.

NorthheathAddick

Now seeing a team this wkend in red,playing with togetherness,spirit,not bottling tackles,can put more than 2/3 passes together,corners that clear 1st man(woman) ,shots on target,winning & trying to win 2nd ball,no bottle jobs,slide ball forward defence splitting passes none of this hoofball,we all been subjected too & playing with freedom…all the things NJ & the 1st team can’t get going…Karen Hills for men’s 1st team manager anyone…😜


granted it’s only half time & it could go very Charlton’olized but so far…😁

The Red Robin

CaptainRobbo said:

SoundAsa£ said:

The way I see it is that he likes players who play to the style of football he’s trying to achieve…….the problem with that we have too many players with little or no flair, just about the entire squad, they all look to have the same style and approach in their locker. How many players when they are in possession have you on the edge of your seat!
TC is the only player we have that looks like he might actually create something, though even he is very hit and miss…..and it must be said just lately, mostly miss. His success rate for crosses into the box are in a word…..pitiful. So the only player we have with a modicum of attacking flair is him and he’s pretty crap most of the time to be honest.
That leaves us with only two players that are truthfully worth their place…..Loyd Jones and Kaminski and they are both in defence FFS!
What a colossal shyte fest…….he has created too much attention to a very very defensive imbalance as compared to virtually no creativity.
In a nutshell……piss poor recrutement.

Every team we come up against will know that they have a free run down our left hand side.

It’s all Millwall did for 90 minutes yesterday. We’d give the ball away and they’d spray it straight out to Azeez to attack our nonexistent left.

ElfsborgAddick

Chippycafc said:

golfaddick said:

bobmunro said:

Sword65pf said:

Time for the board and owners to show what they are about this week no ifs no buts. It will be clear this time next week, hope they make the right decisions, if they don’t the last year of good feeling will be a complete waste and to an extent avoidable. 

There is a week to go in this window. What we need are proven Championship players with the priority being the left side of defence and central creative midfield. We knew that at the start of the window, and in hindsight we made the errors in the summer recruiting, in Rodwell's words, players with potential. What we needed then and now are Championship proven players.

With a week to go how many of that type of player do you really believe is a) available and b) would want to come to a club that has the real threat of relegation? It doesn't matter how much the owners might be prepared to gamble on staving off relegation if the players that might make the difference are not available.

This.

There is a reason why you need to get your business done early. Wont be much left this week & next Monday will be even worse.

I'm not expecting any major signings & on deadline day getting in a couple of loans which will be more along the line of Chambers.

Agreed Golfie, there are players out there other clubs seem to manage it, even some league 1 and 2 clubs seem to do a lot of business in these windows compared to us. Everyone knows what we are lacking, but of course that may cost money to rectify it. The thought of not doing it is worse. 

Should we go down many people will probably be able to look at who came in the January window and then pointing to the directors not putting their hands in their pockets.

ElfsborgAddick

RedChaser said:

ElfsborgAddick said:

SoundAsa£ said:

Gary Rowett is out of work……..just saying. 

I'd rather they give you the job.

So would I as I’d be his assistant 😉

There'd be no f****** around on the training ground.  Go get 'em Tigers.

vff

Charlton Live hitting the nail on the head. 

Next week and end of the transfer will show direction of travel. 

Blucher

crookester said:

For anybody still wondering if RonnieMoore is a WUM, I'll post an excerpt from the player marks and let you make your own mind up

CAMPBELL: 2 please no more enough is enough bet people will still defend him .. shocking performance 

BURKE: 7 done ok ..

Those marks are a crude, blatant and tedious attempt to piss off other users of this forum. Moreover, although they make no difference to the aggregate scores, with anything between 60 and 110 people posting marks, they are hugely disrespectful to the work that Lancashire Lad puts in after every game.

Enough is enough.

KettsJohn

golfaddick said:

Thought this mornings Charlton Live was an excellent listen. As was said, if yesterday was NJ's first game for us as manager then no-way would he had chosen that starting 11.

And the dissection of the set up & players used was spot on. Louis Mendez should send NJ a copy to listen to 😀

I think NJ would have a brain aneurysm if Louis sent him a copy of Charlton Live this morning. Dare Louis to do it before he next interviews him 😂

bobmunro

ElfsborgAddick said:

Chippycafc said:

golfaddick said:

bobmunro said:

Sword65pf said:

Time for the board and owners to show what they are about this week no ifs no buts. It will be clear this time next week, hope they make the right decisions, if they don’t the last year of good feeling will be a complete waste and to an extent avoidable. 

There is a week to go in this window. What we need are proven Championship players with the priority being the left side of defence and central creative midfield. We knew that at the start of the window, and in hindsight we made the errors in the summer recruiting, in Rodwell's words, players with potential. What we needed then and now are Championship proven players.

With a week to go how many of that type of player do you really believe is a) available and b) would want to come to a club that has the real threat of relegation? It doesn't matter how much the owners might be prepared to gamble on staving off relegation if the players that might make the difference are not available.

This.

There is a reason why you need to get your business done early. Wont be much left this week & next Monday will be even worse.

I'm not expecting any major signings & on deadline day getting in a couple of loans which will be more along the line of Chambers.

Agreed Golfie, there are players out there other clubs seem to manage it, even some league 1 and 2 clubs seem to do a lot of business in these windows compared to us. Everyone knows what we are lacking, but of course that may cost money to rectify it. The thought of not doing it is worse. 

Should we go down many people will probably be able to look at who came in the January window and then pointing to the directors not putting their hands in their pockets.

I would point to the recruitment errors in the summer - too many 'unproven at this level but might be ok eventually' versus 'proven at this level'. Relying on and then calling out January business is way too late.

Garrymanilow

One thing that did occur to me today is ever since Portsmouth we seem to have become vulnerable to a late collapse. Against Chelsea heads dropped and they turned the screw with hundreds of millions of pounds of players so it didn't really bear thinking about but we managed to keep the score down against Millwall until their second and then just mentally collapsed. That's no good for us, our specialty is keeping the score down and then striking in the dying minutes whether we deserve it or not. We've taken 10 points this season that way. It indicates that the mentality might have swung a bit from feeling like we can get a result as long as we're still in the game at the death to feeling like we can't get back into games and giving up at the end. Not a nice thought, need to get that aggressive mentality back