POST-MATCH THREAD: Charlton Athletic v Stoke City: Wednesday 11th February 2026: KO 19:45

letthegoodtimesroll

CharltonManor1966 said:

Ben18 said:

Ref booking the players before set pieces was bizarre. 

Ignored Kaminski being pinned on every corner though. Thankfully they didn’t manage to get on the end of any of them, cause Kaminski wouldn’t have been able to move.

Would like to see this whole issue get sorted out though. Players with arms around other players at corners ought to get booked and then repeat offenders sent off. It is ruining the game. Usually defenders as well. Easy to sort in my opinion?

Offenders should get penalised and if it’s just the defender doing it there should be a penalty if it prevents the attack scoring. If the ref warns them and tells them to pack it in before the corner is taken and they ignore him and carry on doing it then they should get booked, as what happened the other night. Personally, it looked like a bit of gamesmanship by Godden (obviously not of course) who will have known he would be due to go off and a yellow card for their player as well could have hurt them more.

PeterGage

Where has this myth started about you cant be offside from a goal kick. That is not correct, the Law (number 11, section 3) does not say that. 

When the goal kick was taken, Dykes was technically in an offside position, but no decision was taken until his level of interference was established as play progressed. If, say two opposing players tussled for the ball (let's say Miles for us) and Miles was nudged and unintentionally headed the ball on to Dykes, the original technical offside is upgraded to actual offside.

Law 11, section 3 specifically  says  "you cant be offside DIRECTLY from a goal kick".

I don't mean to be pedantic, but it is nice to know the reality in such a situation.

@AFKABartram, you were not totally wrong 😁😁

Chippycafc

AFKABartram said:

Leuth said:

Oh no, the files have been moved here! The fiasco continues. Will AFKA Admit Fault 

I’ve posted a full apology in the House of Commoners section

You opening it again mate would be interesting if you did.

Leuth

^how could you deny this towering pillar of common sense and acumen, AFKA? 

Pelling1993

PeterGage said:

Where has this myth started about you cant be offside from a goal kick. That is not correct, the Law (number 11, section 3) does not say that. 

When the goal kick was taken, Dykes was technically in an offside position, but no decision was taken until his level of interference was established as play progressed. If, say two opposing players tussled for the ball (let's say Miles for us) and Miles was nudged and unintentionally headed the ball on to Dykes, the original technical offside is upgraded to actual offside.

Law 11, section 3 specifically  says  "you cant be offside DIRECTLY from a goal kick".

I don't mean to be pedantic, but it is nice to know the reality in such a situation.

@AFKABartram, you were not totally wrong 😁😁

Incredible work to prove yourself wrong so quickly 🤣

LargeAddick

PeterGage said:

Where has this myth started about you cant be offside from a goal kick. That is not correct, the Law (number 11, section 3) does not say that. 

When the goal kick was taken, Dykes was technically in an offside position, but no decision was taken until his level of interference was established as play progressed. If, say two opposing players tussled for the ball (let's say Miles for us) and Miles was nudged and unintentionally headed the ball on to Dykes, the original technical offside is upgraded to actual offside.

Law 11, section 3 specifically  says  "you cant be offside DIRECTLY from a goal kick".

I don't mean to be pedantic, but it is nice to know the reality in such a situation.

@AFKABartram, you were not totally wrong 😁😁

So in the case of the goal the other night he wasn’t offside. His involvement was directly from a goal kick and that was what was being discussed, not your analogy of some other involvement first. So yes @AfkaBartram was, in this instance, ignorant of the laws of the game he has been watching and playing for eons 😀😀

PeterGage

LargeAddick said:

PeterGage said:

Where has this myth started about you cant be offside from a goal kick. That is not correct, the Law (number 11, section 3) does not say that. 

When the goal kick was taken, Dykes was technically in an offside position, but no decision was taken until his level of interference was established as play progressed. If, say two opposing players tussled for the ball (let's say Miles for us) and Miles was nudged and unintentionally headed the ball on to Dykes, the original technical offside is upgraded to actual offside.

Law 11, section 3 specifically  says  "you cant be offside DIRECTLY from a goal kick".

I don't mean to be pedantic, but it is nice to know the reality in such a situation.

@AFKABartram, you were not totally wrong 😁😁

So in the case of the goal the other night he wasn’t offside. His involvement was directly from a goal kick and that was what was being discussed, not your analogy of some other involvement first. So yes @AfkaBartram was, in this instance, ignorant of the laws of the game he has been watching and playing for eons 😀😀

No he wasn't offside, which I did not comment upon. I simply stated that some posters were saying you cant be offside from a goal kick, where the law says you cannot be offside directly from a goalkick; a totally different scenerio. I was simply trying to give an example of the differences

fenlandaddick

All I can say is good job we didn't have VAR else our goal would have ruled out by being offside.

So glad we got this all sorted now.

Bailey

PeterGage said:

LargeAddick said:

PeterGage said:

Where has this myth started about you cant be offside from a goal kick. That is not correct, the Law (number 11, section 3) does not say that. 

When the goal kick was taken, Dykes was technically in an offside position, but no decision was taken until his level of interference was established as play progressed. If, say two opposing players tussled for the ball (let's say Miles for us) and Miles was nudged and unintentionally headed the ball on to Dykes, the original technical offside is upgraded to actual offside.

Law 11, section 3 specifically  says  "you cant be offside DIRECTLY from a goal kick".

I don't mean to be pedantic, but it is nice to know the reality in such a situation.

@AFKABartram, you were not totally wrong 😁😁

So in the case of the goal the other night he wasn’t offside. His involvement was directly from a goal kick and that was what was being discussed, not your analogy of some other involvement first. So yes @AfkaBartram was, in this instance, ignorant of the laws of the game he has been watching and playing for eons 😀😀

No he wasn't offside, which I did not comment upon. I simply stated that some posters were saying you cant be offside from a goal kick, where the law says you cannot be offside directly from a goalkick; a totally different scenerio. I was simply trying to give an example of the differences

Good example Peter, it does make me dread VAR more though. Most of us do not have full grasp of the laws of the game, although we think we do, and I haven't seen VAR's impact in the grounds, but judging by this topic,  it would probably result in coranories around the Valley. I know we give them stick but let the ref do his job, in my opinion. 

LargeAddick

PeterGage said:

LargeAddick said:

PeterGage said:

Where has this myth started about you cant be offside from a goal kick. That is not correct, the Law (number 11, section 3) does not say that. 

When the goal kick was taken, Dykes was technically in an offside position, but no decision was taken until his level of interference was established as play progressed. If, say two opposing players tussled for the ball (let's say Miles for us) and Miles was nudged and unintentionally headed the ball on to Dykes, the original technical offside is upgraded to actual offside.

Law 11, section 3 specifically  says  "you cant be offside DIRECTLY from a goal kick".

I don't mean to be pedantic, but it is nice to know the reality in such a situation.

@AFKABartram, you were not totally wrong 😁😁

So in the case of the goal the other night he wasn’t offside. His involvement was directly from a goal kick and that was what was being discussed, not your analogy of some other involvement first. So yes @AfkaBartram was, in this instance, ignorant of the laws of the game he has been watching and playing for eons 😀😀

No he wasn't offside, which I did not comment upon. I simply stated that some posters were saying you cant be offside from a goal kick, where the law says you cannot be offside directly from a goalkick; a totally different scenerio. I was simply trying to give an example of the differences

It’s semantics though. You can’t be offside from a goal kick. If the keeper kicks the ball and two players jump for it, it comes off your player to you and you are offside then of course you are offside because your involvement hasn’t resulted from a goal kick but a flick on from your player. That isn’t what was being commented on. People were saying they didn’t realise you couldn’t be offside directly from a goal kick.

AddicksAddict

PeterGage said:

Where has this myth started about you cant be offside from a goal kick. That is not correct, the Law (number 11, section 3) does not say that. 

When the goal kick was taken, Dykes was technically in an offside position, but no decision was taken until his level of interference was established as play progressed. If, say two opposing players tussled for the ball (let's say Miles for us) and Miles was nudged and unintentionally headed the ball on to Dykes, the original technical offside is upgraded to actual offside.

Law 11, section 3 specifically  says  "you cant be offside DIRECTLY from a goal kick".

I don't mean to be pedantic, but it is nice to know the reality in such a situation.

@AFKABartram, you were not totally wrong 😁😁

I doubt any section of law 11 refers to “cant”. I think the word you’re looking for is “can’t”. 

I most definitely do mean to be pedantic.

And it’s not a myth, you’ve quoted the law yourself. In your example, once Miles heads the ball, it’s no longer “from a goal kick”, it’s from Miles’s header. 

PeterGage

AddicksAddict said:

PeterGage said:

Where has this myth started about you cant be offside from a goal kick. That is not correct, the Law (number 11, section 3) does not say that. 

When the goal kick was taken, Dykes was technically in an offside position, but no decision was taken until his level of interference was established as play progressed. If, say two opposing players tussled for the ball (let's say Miles for us) and Miles was nudged and unintentionally headed the ball on to Dykes, the original technical offside is upgraded to actual offside.

Law 11, section 3 specifically  says  "you cant be offside DIRECTLY from a goal kick".

I don't mean to be pedantic, but it is nice to know the reality in such a situation.

@AFKABartram, you were not totally wrong 😁😁

I doubt any section of law 11 refers to “cant”. I think the word you’re looking for is “can’t”. 

I most definitely do mean to be pedantic.

And it’s not a myth, you’ve quoted the law yourself. In your example, once Miles heads the ball, it’s no longer “from a goal kick”, it’s from Miles’s header. 

Thanks for pointing out that I left out an apostrophe. 

The word "directly" IS important because at the point the goal kick is taken nobody knows what is going to happen eventually. Hence when the kick is taken,  Dykes is technically offside in that he meets all the offside criteria, ie there are not two defenders between him and the goal and he his in the attacking half of the pitch. As it turned out,  in this particlar passage of play,  he received the ball DIRECTLY from the goal klck and hence not offside. 

I hope that I have not omitted an apostrophe in my explanation.

A posting from you - "England U19 won their opening game against Pakistan by 37 runs. Caleb Falconer won MOM for his 66 (73)." Where is the apostrophe and smaller case letter "s" after U19?

Steven81

Can''t wait for the next match day thread

se9addick

Really wish we had a match today to follow up after winning on Wednesday. 

jose

The law does not say the ball has to be played forward for a player to be offside.

SporadicAddick

Lets all agree, Dyke’s wasnt offside because you ca’nt be offside directly from a goal kick. 

RoanRedNY

So, have we decided the goal stands and we can keep the 3 points or not?

vff

PeterGage said:

AddicksAddict said:

PeterGage said:

Where has this myth started about you cant be offside from a goal kick. That is not correct, the Law (number 11, section 3) does not say that. 

When the goal kick was taken, Dykes was technically in an offside position, but no decision was taken until his level of interference was established as play progressed. If, say two opposing players tussled for the ball (let's say Miles for us) and Miles was nudged and unintentionally headed the ball on to Dykes, the original technical offside is upgraded to actual offside.

Law 11, section 3 specifically  says  "you cant be offside DIRECTLY from a goal kick".

I don't mean to be pedantic, but it is nice to know the reality in such a situation.

@AFKABartram, you were not totally wrong 😁😁

I doubt any section of law 11 refers to “cant”. I think the word you’re looking for is “can’t”. 

I most definitely do mean to be pedantic.

And it’s not a myth, you’ve quoted the law yourself. In your example, once Miles heads the ball, it’s no longer “from a goal kick”, it’s from Miles’s header. 

Thanks for pointing out that I left out an apostrophe. 

The word "directly" IS important because at the point the goal kick is taken nobody knows what is going to happen eventually. Hence when the kick is taken,  Dykes is technically offside in that he meets all the offside criteria, ie there are not two defenders between him and the goal and he his in the attacking half of the pitch. As it turned out,  in this particlar passage of play,  he received the ball DIRECTLY from the goal klck and hence not offside. 

I hope that I have not omitted an apostrophe in my explanation.

A posting from you - "England U19 won their opening game against Pakistan by 37 runs. Caleb Falconer won MOM for his 66 (73)." Where is the apostrophe and smaller case letter "s" after U19?

Classic Charlton Life discussion, that switches from football and the offside rule ;- into correct use of punctuation.

(Peter Gage wins it hands down on both counts - offside rule & punctuation) 👍

Sword65pf

vff said:

PeterGage said:

AddicksAddict said:

PeterGage said:

Where has this myth started about you cant be offside from a goal kick. That is not correct, the Law (number 11, section 3) does not say that. 

When the goal kick was taken, Dykes was technically in an offside position, but no decision was taken until his level of interference was established as play progressed. If, say two opposing players tussled for the ball (let's say Miles for us) and Miles was nudged and unintentionally headed the ball on to Dykes, the original technical offside is upgraded to actual offside.

Law 11, section 3 specifically  says  "you cant be offside DIRECTLY from a goal kick".

I don't mean to be pedantic, but it is nice to know the reality in such a situation.

@AFKABartram, you were not totally wrong 😁😁

I doubt any section of law 11 refers to “cant”. I think the word you’re looking for is “can’t”. 

I most definitely do mean to be pedantic.

And it’s not a myth, you’ve quoted the law yourself. In your example, once Miles heads the ball, it’s no longer “from a goal kick”, it’s from Miles’s header. 

Thanks for pointing out that I left out an apostrophe. 

The word "directly" IS important because at the point the goal kick is taken nobody knows what is going to happen eventually. Hence when the kick is taken,  Dykes is technically offside in that he meets all the offside criteria, ie there are not two defenders between him and the goal and he his in the attacking half of the pitch. As it turned out,  in this particlar passage of play,  he received the ball DIRECTLY from the goal klck and hence not offside. 

I hope that I have not omitted an apostrophe in my explanation.

A posting from you - "England U19 won their opening game against Pakistan by 37 runs. Caleb Falconer won MOM for his 66 (73)." Where is the apostrophe and smaller case letter "s" after U19?

Classic Charlton Life discussion, that switches from football;- into correct use of punctuation. 

Charlton life punctuation and spelling police, a cult of theyre(there,their) own!!! Like it really matters when most people can understand things anyway. I’m cleverer than you brigade😂

AddicksAddict

PeterGage said:

AddicksAddict said:

PeterGage said:

Where has this myth started about you cant be offside from a goal kick. That is not correct, the Law (number 11, section 3) does not say that. 

When the goal kick was taken, Dykes was technically in an offside position, but no decision was taken until his level of interference was established as play progressed. If, say two opposing players tussled for the ball (let's say Miles for us) and Miles was nudged and unintentionally headed the ball on to Dykes, the original technical offside is upgraded to actual offside.

Law 11, section 3 specifically  says  "you cant be offside DIRECTLY from a goal kick".

I don't mean to be pedantic, but it is nice to know the reality in such a situation.

@AFKABartram, you were not totally wrong 😁😁

I doubt any section of law 11 refers to “cant”. I think the word you’re looking for is “can’t”. 

I most definitely do mean to be pedantic.

And it’s not a myth, you’ve quoted the law yourself. In your example, once Miles heads the ball, it’s no longer “from a goal kick”, it’s from Miles’s header. 

Thanks for pointing out that I left out an apostrophe. 

The word "directly" IS important because at the point the goal kick is taken nobody knows what is going to happen eventually. Hence when the kick is taken,  Dykes is technically offside in that he meets all the offside criteria, ie there are not two defenders between him and the goal and he his in the attacking half of the pitch. As it turned out,  in this particlar passage of play,  he received the ball DIRECTLY from the goal klck and hence not offside. 

I hope that I have not omitted an apostrophe in my explanation.

A posting from you - "England U19 won their opening game against Pakistan by 37 runs. Caleb Falconer won MOM for his 66 (73)." Where is the apostrophe and smaller case letter "s" after U19?

You can’t tell your AddicksAddict from your Addicks Addict. The reference to directly is totally superfluous, the moment someone else touches it, it’s no longer from the goal kick. 

ForeverAddickted

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Callumcafc

Next time we have a goal disallowed for offside I’m going to write a letter to the FA to argue it should have stood because you can’t be offside from a goal kick… that was taken by Kaminski twenty minutes early.

Off_it

So, just for clarity, can an apostrophe be offside from a goal kick?

fenaddick

Off_it said:

So, just for clarity, can an apostrophe be offside from a goal kick?

Not directly 

Off_it

fenaddick said:

Off_it said:

So, just for clarity, can an apostrophe be offside from a goal kick?

Not directly 

But what about if it's been incorrectly used - straight red?

killerandflash

If we're going down the offside rule, I sometimes think that a number of our players forget you can't be offside from a throw in. Godden is one of the few who will occasionally move into space beyond the last man to receive the ball.

PeaksAndValleys

killerandflash said:

If we're going down the offside rule, I sometimes think that a number of our players forget you can't be offside from a throw in. Godden is one of the few who will occasionally move into space beyond the last man to receive the ball.

Sorry killer you appear to have grossly misunderstood the premise of this conversation and inadvertently made a serious point about Charlton's football. Please rephrase your comment as a joke about being offside from a goal kick or, failing that, replace it with a full stop (not an apostrophe - I can't stress that enough). 

Garrymanilow

killerandflash said:

If we're going down the offside rule, I sometimes think that a number of our players forget you can't be offside from a throw in. Godden is one of the few who will occasionally move into space beyond the last man to receive the ball.

I think you'll find you can't be offside DIRECTLY from a throw in. What if one of our players took a throw in but then a series of imagined events occurred that meant Godden received the ball while still in an offside position? He'd have to be killed wouldn't he, it's no wonder our other players don't move into that space.

PeterGage

Garrymanilow said:

killerandflash said:

If we're going down the offside rule, I sometimes think that a number of our players forget you can't be offside from a throw in. Godden is one of the few who will occasionally move into space beyond the last man to receive the ball.

I think you'll find you can't be offside DIRECTLY from a throw in. What if one of our players took a throw in but then a series of imagined events occurred that meant Godden received the ball while still in an offside position? He'd have to be killed wouldn't he, it's no wonder our other players don't move into that space.

There was a time when you could not be offside from an old fashioned "drop ball". There seems to no longer be a contested drop ball; the ball is now given to the team in possession when the game was stopped, hence the omission from current "Laws of the Game",

Stig

Bailey said:

PeterGage said:

LargeAddick said:

PeterGage said:

Where has this myth started about you cant be offside from a goal kick. That is not correct, the Law (number 11, section 3) does not say that. 

When the goal kick was taken, Dykes was technically in an offside position, but no decision was taken until his level of interference was established as play progressed. If, say two opposing players tussled for the ball (let's say Miles for us) and Miles was nudged and unintentionally headed the ball on to Dykes, the original technical offside is upgraded to actual offside.

Law 11, section 3 specifically  says  "you cant be offside DIRECTLY from a goal kick".

I don't mean to be pedantic, but it is nice to know the reality in such a situation.

@AFKABartram, you were not totally wrong 😁😁

So in the case of the goal the other night he wasn’t offside. His involvement was directly from a goal kick and that was what was being discussed, not your analogy of some other involvement first. So yes @AfkaBartram was, in this instance, ignorant of the laws of the game he has been watching and playing for eons 😀😀

No he wasn't offside, which I did not comment upon. I simply stated that some posters were saying you cant be offside from a goal kick, where the law says you cannot be offside directly from a goalkick; a totally different scenerio. I was simply trying to give an example of the differences

Good example Peter, it does make me dread VAR more though. Most of us do not have full grasp of the laws of the game, although we think we do, and I haven't seen VAR's impact in the grounds, but judging by this topic,  it would probably result in coranories around the Valley. I know we give them stick but let the ref do his job, in my opinion. 

I definitely don't. I used to when I was a kid and I had my Smiths Crisps book to guide me, but there's been so many changes since then that I can't keep up. For the most part, I'm happy in my ignorance, but I'm always grateful when someone sheds some light on what I am watching.