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POST MATCH THREAD : Charlton Athletic V Portsmouth : Tuesday 17th February 2026 : KO 19:45
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I wonder if we will get a worldly at all this season? 🤷♂️0
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The 1st half really highlighted that if the opposition show up and pass and move unlike a poor Stoke side or teams that are down to 9 or 10 players we are bang average with our passing and rely on long balls to the two big central strikers up front; this is always a problematic tactic and literally is hit and miss. Head tennis in midfield and up and unders when we do get the ball can't be the way I/we want CAFC to evolve.
The only mitigation is after Clarke and Chambers got booked early doors they were both banjaxed in their tackles and as we had 7 yellows in the end by a ref who gives out more cards than I do at Xmas !
We had a short period in the 2nd half when Ramsey with the help of Coventry and Carey started to pass the ball around but it was too little too late and in a parallel universe Clarke scores after 38 seconds and Kaminski doesn't let that 1st goal go through him plus the powerful strike by Devlin ends up in row Z.
Charlton are not Pompey's nemesis anymore after the 98th minute winner at Fratton park and last night when we looked so poor and that is me being kind.
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I mean yeah you can ignore tc against Derby and Carey earlier in the seasonJayajosh said:I wonder if we will get a worldly at all this season? 🤷♂️2 -
That's just what the players did last night. A token gesture!Fanny Fanackapan said:
Could you just gesture, please, via an emoji ? Maybe that's what we all should do following tonight's display.MrOneLung said:Am refusing to post and will register my displeasure through silence0 -
I hope Clarke's morale stays as good and strong as it's been since he joined. He's not being called out, but publicly it's being said that if he'd buried that, then we could have gone on to win the game. His enthusiasm got him into a position you'd want Carey or Doc to be in.Add to that being subbed at HT to protect against a red card, probably not the nicest feeling for the lad.9
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There's an allowance for it bouncing off another body part, there is also an allowance for it being point blank. Both ignored by the ref/assistantRedskin said:
It doesn't matter if it did. It has still hit his outstretched arm.fenaddick said:
Not if it hits his chest firstRedskin said:JamesSeed said:
Right on the edge of the area, clearly not intentional, his arm wasn’t stretched out in order to make himself bigger, the ball was whacked at him with some speed. Any sensible ref would have processed all that and given a free kick on the edge of the area IMHO. Sky team thought it was very soft FWIW.bobmunro said:
Lino gave it I believe. Bell's arm was not in a natural position and definitely a penalty.guinnessaddick said:
I thought it was a pen, not sure how the ref saw it, as Bell would have blocked his view.CAFCFW05 said:
Maybe I am part of the minority, but in this stage of football, unfortunately it is a pen. Would’ve been given with VARcafcnick1992 said:The first few pages of these threads are always angry posts with little longer term perspective.
We're at 7 points from 12 since the Millwall performance - not terrible for a relegation-fighting team. We're also 7 points from the relegation spots and have shown real fight Vs Stoke and QPR.
I thought a few things went against us today early in the game and it was enough to rock us.
1. The ref simply wouldn't allow any contact between players which goes against our playing style.
2. Kiminski gifting Pompey a goal
3. A terrible decision by the ref to award a penalty
It's disappointing we couldn't recover but that's life in the Championship. Those whining and moaning about where we are in the table would be happier if we were 4th in League One. We're a new championship team - these results will happen.
For what's it worth, I thought the Portsmouth players were a credit to their badge tonight. Fought really hard and deserved the win.But we would probably have lost anyway, because we have to over-perform to score points, with the squad that we have, sadly.
That's a clear penalty.
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Simple as this. No coincidence it happens when Dykes and Leaburn are back together too. We certainly didn’t play this in the last two.Charlton1905 said:
Midfield bypassed all game by Jonesball.ThrappersAddick said:That was shockingly bad. Midfield non existent all game. And it was cold.0 -
Only problem if we stay up is NJ will stay as well. Its like a recurring nightmare "what the hell am I doing here"Nug said:Dreadful performance. So negative at home against one of the bottom teams. We made them look like Brazil. We ain’t winning many games till the end of the season playing like that. Hopefully we can scrape enough to stay up. Very despondent after that, they out fought and outplayed us. We should have been more positive after our last couple of games.2 -
He will probably understand that, the way that ref was dishing out yellows. It made sense to take him off.mendonca said:I hope Clarke's morale stays as good and strong as it's been since he joined. He's not being called out, but publicly it's being said that if he'd buried that, then we could have gone on to win the game. His enthusiasm got him into a position you'd want Carey or Doc to be in.Add to that being subbed at HT to protect against a red card, probably not the nicest feeling for the lad.8 -
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One thing is for certain and that is if we continue to put in performances like last night's for the rest of the season we will be relegated, of that I have no doubt. My biggest fear before last night's game was complacency - thinking we had already cracked it and that we are essentially safe. Pompey, driven by a fear of failure (relegation), were much, much hungrier than us and deserved their win despite the referee being a genetic waste of space. A dismal night with the daunting prospect of two away games looming large. Failure to pick up any points in those two fixtures will put us firmly back in the mire.5
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I think that allowance only applies if the arm is in a natural position. His arm is outstretched so for me it's an easy penalty as it blocks the cross.fenaddick said:
There's an allowance for it bouncing off another body part, there is also an allowance for it being point blank. Both ignored by the ref/assistantRedskin said:
It doesn't matter if it did. It has still hit his outstretched arm.fenaddick said:
Not if it hits his chest firstRedskin said:JamesSeed said:
Right on the edge of the area, clearly not intentional, his arm wasn’t stretched out in order to make himself bigger, the ball was whacked at him with some speed. Any sensible ref would have processed all that and given a free kick on the edge of the area IMHO. Sky team thought it was very soft FWIW.bobmunro said:
Lino gave it I believe. Bell's arm was not in a natural position and definitely a penalty.guinnessaddick said:
I thought it was a pen, not sure how the ref saw it, as Bell would have blocked his view.CAFCFW05 said:
Maybe I am part of the minority, but in this stage of football, unfortunately it is a pen. Would’ve been given with VARcafcnick1992 said:The first few pages of these threads are always angry posts with little longer term perspective.
We're at 7 points from 12 since the Millwall performance - not terrible for a relegation-fighting team. We're also 7 points from the relegation spots and have shown real fight Vs Stoke and QPR.
I thought a few things went against us today early in the game and it was enough to rock us.
1. The ref simply wouldn't allow any contact between players which goes against our playing style.
2. Kiminski gifting Pompey a goal
3. A terrible decision by the ref to award a penalty
It's disappointing we couldn't recover but that's life in the Championship. Those whining and moaning about where we are in the table would be happier if we were 4th in League One. We're a new championship team - these results will happen.
For what's it worth, I thought the Portsmouth players were a credit to their badge tonight. Fought really hard and deserved the win.But we would probably have lost anyway, because we have to over-perform to score points, with the squad that we have, sadly.
That's a clear penalty.
This is why you often see defenders closing down crosses/shots like this:
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Bell didn't do that and paid the consequences.4 -
They're not natural positions either. 😉1
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Well of course he'll stay. He'll stay because the club is progressing under his watch.KingKinsella said:
Only problem if we stay up is NJ will stay as well. Its like a recurring nightmare "what the hell am I doing here"Nug said:Dreadful performance. So negative at home against one of the bottom teams. We made them look like Brazil. We ain’t winning many games till the end of the season playing like that. Hopefully we can scrape enough to stay up. Very despondent after that, they out fought and outplayed us. We should have been more positive after our last couple of games.
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Yes you are going mad... Thankfully you're not the only one... If we stay up, then the question over Jones as Manager should never even be consideredcafcnick1992 said:
Well of course he'll stay. He'll stay because the club is progressing under his watch.KingKinsella said:
Only problem if we stay up is NJ will stay as well. Its like a recurring nightmare "what the hell am I doing here"Nug said:Dreadful performance. So negative at home against one of the bottom teams. We made them look like Brazil. We ain’t winning many games till the end of the season playing like that. Hopefully we can scrape enough to stay up. Very despondent after that, they out fought and outplayed us. We should have been more positive after our last couple of games.
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BigDiddy said:
I do realise that !ElfsborgAddick said:BigDiddy said:
He did a great job to get us up, but does that mean he is right for the longer term ? And I think tonight’s selection, tactics and subs were clueless as evidenced by the shambolic display we witnessed.Danny Addick said:
The posts are always so basic and black and white as well. “Clueless”, like the man didn’t get us up. Like Karen Fraeye. Add something to the conversationcafcnick1992 said:
The problem with posts like that is that you never set out what your expectations are.BigDiddy said:
No - I don’t accept any of that.cafcnick1992 said:The first few pages of these threads are always angry posts with little longer term perspective.
We're at 7 points from 12 since the Millwall performance - not terrible for a relegation-fighting team. We're also 7 points from the relegation spots and have shown real fight Vs Stoke and QPR.
I thought a few things went against us today early in the game and it was enough to rock us.
1. The ref simply wouldn't allow any contact between players which goes against our playing style.
2. Kiminski gifting Pompey a goal
3. A terrible decision by the ref to award a penalty
It's disappointing we couldn't recover but that's life in the Championship. Those whining and moaning about where we are in the table would be happier if we were 4th in League One. We're a new championship team - these results will happen.
For what's it worth, I thought the Portsmouth players were a credit to their badge tonight. Fought really hard and deserved the win.
We were shite tonight and NJ is clueless when things go wrong.
Do you think we should be comfortably mid table?
NJ is not a long term solution, in my view.You may be right for the long term but supporters must realise that if he keeps us up he has done a fantastic job.We have spent five seasons in the f****** third division, supporters need to know where we are, atm we are a long way from being a mid table Championship side as we are historically.
Does not mean that we fans cannot, or should not demand more.
Unless we do, who will?
Really don't get why people get shirty about some of us who will criticise piss poor performances like tonightI was not getting 'shirty', I am in the camp of suffering this season if the results keep us up.I do realise that things probably need to change in the summer, be it in player recruitment or a new manager.0 -
The change will be in recruitment and we’ve seen it implemented in January alreadyElfsborgAddick said:BigDiddy said:
I do realise that !ElfsborgAddick said:BigDiddy said:
He did a great job to get us up, but does that mean he is right for the longer term ? And I think tonight’s selection, tactics and subs were clueless as evidenced by the shambolic display we witnessed.Danny Addick said:
The posts are always so basic and black and white as well. “Clueless”, like the man didn’t get us up. Like Karen Fraeye. Add something to the conversationcafcnick1992 said:
The problem with posts like that is that you never set out what your expectations are.BigDiddy said:
No - I don’t accept any of that.cafcnick1992 said:The first few pages of these threads are always angry posts with little longer term perspective.
We're at 7 points from 12 since the Millwall performance - not terrible for a relegation-fighting team. We're also 7 points from the relegation spots and have shown real fight Vs Stoke and QPR.
I thought a few things went against us today early in the game and it was enough to rock us.
1. The ref simply wouldn't allow any contact between players which goes against our playing style.
2. Kiminski gifting Pompey a goal
3. A terrible decision by the ref to award a penalty
It's disappointing we couldn't recover but that's life in the Championship. Those whining and moaning about where we are in the table would be happier if we were 4th in League One. We're a new championship team - these results will happen.
For what's it worth, I thought the Portsmouth players were a credit to their badge tonight. Fought really hard and deserved the win.
We were shite tonight and NJ is clueless when things go wrong.
Do you think we should be comfortably mid table?
NJ is not a long term solution, in my view.You may be right for the long term but supporters must realise that if he keeps us up he has done a fantastic job.We have spent five seasons in the f****** third division, supporters need to know where we are, atm we are a long way from being a mid table Championship side as we are historically.
Does not mean that we fans cannot, or should not demand more.
Unless we do, who will?
Really don't get why people get shirty about some of us who will criticise piss poor performances like tonightI was not getting 'shirty', I am in the camp of suffering this season if the results keep us up.I do realise that things probably need to change in the summer, be it in player recruitment or a new manager.3 -
Because they came at us all over the pitch at pace, and our players froze.blackpool72 said:No idea why we were so poor last night.
Pompey basically had half their team missing with injuries.
This was the perfect opportunity to pull clear from the teams below us and we put in one of our worst performances of the season.
With two away games coming up if we continue to play like this we will be right back in it.
Nathan must get a reaction from the players after this rubbish.
Fingers crossed he will.
Classic problem is when Jones picks up a ball from the keeper moves forward 10 or 15 yards, then comes to a stop throws his arms wide to say where is the person to pass to. It happens in most of our games.1 -
cafcnick1992 said:
Well of course he'll stay. He'll stay because the club is progressing under his watch.KingKinsella said:
Only problem if we stay up is NJ will stay as well. Its like a recurring nightmare "what the hell am I doing here"Nug said:Dreadful performance. So negative at home against one of the bottom teams. We made them look like Brazil. We ain’t winning many games till the end of the season playing like that. Hopefully we can scrape enough to stay up. Very despondent after that, they out fought and outplayed us. We should have been more positive after our last couple of games.
Am I going mad here
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We were very poor yesterday but the nature of football is you win some you don’t expect to and lose some you don’t expect. We are still 7 points clear of relegation which is realistically exceeding expectations. Leicester and West Brom are in worse form than us. Yesterday was crap and disappointing but sometimes perspective is needed. Jones keeping us up would be a successful season.
For whatever reason, every now and then we seem to have an absolute stinker in us where everything we do is wrong and we can’t even string together 2 passes. Even in our excellent run second half of last season Wrexham and a poor Peterborough side turned us over.I thought Dykes was the only one who could hold his head high yesterday. He’s a limited player but never gave up and got himself another assist. Was frustrating seeing him get up well a few times from long balls winning a flick on but no one bothering to gamble on it. Seems a pointless tactic lumping it up if no one is chasing the flick ons.I have faith in the team and manager we can bounce back.10 -
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Do you honestly believe that Nathan Jones, with his personality and directness, would not get into the players and stamp out complacency. We can blame him for boring tactics, but being complacent is not something you will see in Jones team. We got the tactics wrong last night, Pompey got them right, the ref played a significant part and Kaminksi had a bad game.DONVANVLIET said:One thing is for certain and that is if we continue to put in performances like last night's for the rest of the season we will be relegated, of that I have no doubt. My biggest fear before last night's game was complacency - thinking we had already cracked it and that we are essentially safe. Pompey, driven by a fear of failure (relegation), were much, much hungrier than us and deserved their win despite the referee being a genetic waste of space. A dismal night with the daunting prospect of two away games looming large. Failure to pick up any points in those two fixtures will put us firmly back in the mire.
As curbs said, don't get too high with the highs, or too low with the lows.7 -
This post is spot on. Pompey were nothing special.Pelling1993 said:
The difference between last night & The Millwall & Southampton games is that those 2 teams are actually good. Pompey were bang average and we were still 2nd bestse9addick said:That was back to how we were playing in January, as bad as it’s been all season (possibly Millwall away excepted).0 -
That is based on the belief that Leicester will not go a run of wins, their squad is too good not to get it wright.ForeverAddickted said:_MrDick said:Still fuming with that performance. We’re right back in the relegation dogfight.. sometimes I wonder what I’ve done wrong in a previous life to be inflicted with the love of this football club. One step forward, two steps back. And we have 2 away matches to look forward to. Oh, deep joy Think I’ll stick with the rugby on Saturday😮💨Did we ever leave it? - Do you genuinely think we'll ever leave it this season?We're still 9-pts from the Play-Offs / 7-pts from Relegation, this Division is so f**king tight its unrealistic to think that'll ever changeEven with Portsmouth winning last night, they've closed the gap, but our gap to 22nd remains what it did at 7:44pm last night
Where as we do not have a strong squad.3 -
That's my assumption too. They certainly knew how to get the ref to book nearly the whole team.Weegie Addick said:Difference seems to be that Portsmouth did their homework on us and the ref far better than we did on them - despite Jones saying he went to watch them at the weekend.1 -
I didn't think Portsmouth were bang average, they looked a level above us, with quick incisive passing which we seem to never do.7
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msomerton said:
That is based on the belief that Leicester will not go a run of wins, their squad is too good not to get it wright.ForeverAddickted said:_MrDick said:Still fuming with that performance. We’re right back in the relegation dogfight.. sometimes I wonder what I’ve done wrong in a previous life to be inflicted with the love of this football club. One step forward, two steps back. And we have 2 away matches to look forward to. Oh, deep joy Think I’ll stick with the rugby on Saturday😮💨Did we ever leave it? - Do you genuinely think we'll ever leave it this season?We're still 9-pts from the Play-Offs / 7-pts from Relegation, this Division is so f**king tight its unrealistic to think that'll ever changeEven with Portsmouth winning last night, they've closed the gap, but our gap to 22nd remains what it did at 7:44pm last night
Where as we do not have a strong squad.So why are they a point behind us (ignoring the deduction)They've got a strong attack, but its clearly not enough, as they cant defend for their lives, evidence shown against us and recently when they threw away a three goal lead - We struggle for goals, but we still know how to score and grind out results, but worst case, we're damned good at keeping a clean sheet, and have returned to doing that now we've got a balanced defence... So on past weeks, last night was the exception rather than the norm.1 -
Your comment got me thinking....... so thanks for that as it has stopped me feeling miserable, at least for a while........BigDiddy said:
He did a great job to get us up, but does that mean he is right for the longer term ? And I think tonight’s selection, tactics and subs were clueless as evidenced by the shambolic display we witnessed.Danny Addick said:
The posts are always so basic and black and white as well. “Clueless”, like the man didn’t get us up. Like Karen Fraeye. Add something to the conversationcafcnick1992 said:
The problem with posts like that is that you never set out what your expectations are.BigDiddy said:
No - I don’t accept any of that.cafcnick1992 said:The first few pages of these threads are always angry posts with little longer term perspective.
We're at 7 points from 12 since the Millwall performance - not terrible for a relegation-fighting team. We're also 7 points from the relegation spots and have shown real fight Vs Stoke and QPR.
I thought a few things went against us today early in the game and it was enough to rock us.
1. The ref simply wouldn't allow any contact between players which goes against our playing style.
2. Kiminski gifting Pompey a goal
3. A terrible decision by the ref to award a penalty
It's disappointing we couldn't recover but that's life in the Championship. Those whining and moaning about where we are in the table would be happier if we were 4th in League One. We're a new championship team - these results will happen.
For what's it worth, I thought the Portsmouth players were a credit to their badge tonight. Fought really hard and deserved the win.
We were shite tonight and NJ is clueless when things go wrong.
Do you think we should be comfortably mid table?
NJ is not a long term solution, in my view.
At some stage it's highly likely that NJ will either be shown the door or will leave because of a better offer, that's just football. Either way it's a tricky one for the owners as I imagine they won't be able to identify and front up the recruitment of a new manager, never mind being able to judge in good time when to pull the trigger. Is there currently anyone in the club who can do that for them? I don't think so.
As successful business people you'd imagine and hope they have identified knowledgeable people they can trust to help them when the time comes.
Reflecting on last night a few things have popped into my head:-
Do we set up to not worry about conceding possession when we're defending a long ball and when we're punting a long ball to the front? Relying more on being able to press and win it back afterwards? In these situations we do seem to 'lose' the ball on more occasions more than most teams. Or maybe our midfield are not good at positioning and anticipating? I don't know what it is tbh but it can be very frustrating...... and it flipping well was last night.
I thought Pompey were much better than us at playing out and through from the back. Their players seemed good at coming back into the middle 3rd to receive the ball and play it around and (sometimes) through our back line. It seemed they could play it out with some confidence that the ball wouldn't be lost easily or quickly. When our back 3 have the ball neither they nor us in the crowd have much confidence in our ability to play it through. Too often, when we do try to we seem too slow and we lose the ball or give away a throw in. With the players we have, what's the answer? I wish I knew. I don't think it's Doc, he doesn't have the keep and carry ball skills, although he does have decent ball winning and closing down abilities. I don't think dropping Sonny back into the middle solves it as he's kind of the opposite of Doc....... he can keep and carry but isn't the best ball winner and closer down by any means....... and who would go in the 10 role anyway? Is it JR-C? NJ doesn't seem to think so. Maybe the answer isn't in the current squad? Maybe we just have to limp along and over the 50 point line and solve it in the summer?
My last thought came as I was watching the post-match NJ interview. I was glad in his opening comments to hear him say the midfield were poor last night but I didn't hear him say much else about that. Is that because we don't currently have a midfield 'solution' and we weren't able to solve it last summer or in January? After last season ended I think all of us knew central midfield needed an upgrade.
Lastly, in his interview, NJ mentioned TCs effort over the bar a few times. I know it's goals that win games and all that but to so publicly mention it several times, knowing TC is a confidence player, was a couple of times too many in my opinion. TC didn't deserve being singled out like that. And if TCs performance was his yardstick then maybe there were others NJ should have called out too....... although he did do it to Kaminski.....1 -
This roller coaster season continues on its ups and downs.
The big difference between the Stoke and Pompey home games were Stoke were useless on the night and we scored from a long kick from Kaminski which was headed on by Dykes and TC fresh from the bench rounded the statuette keeper and hit the net which made fans upgrade the quality of our football which had gone before.
I have said this after we have won matches not just when fed up after a loss that we need an extra dimension to our football like the ability to pass and move and keep the ball on the ground. Obviously if you play two big forward you will play balls to their head but aimless balls forwards from our own half reminds me when we did that to Stockley and I really want CAFC to evolve from those days of hoofball.
We will continue to play 3-5-2 which will be successful at times when Clarke and Chambers can get forward but if the other coach strangles their supply by forcing Harry and Luke back by close marking we will see more matches like last night when we will just be bereft of the ability to adapt.
As a previous poster has stated we made Pompey look like a promotion team or even Brazil said Nug ! not a side that were behind us in the table and were the lowest away scorer in the Championship before last night.
One game at a time and we still have to look down and not up after that abject 1st half performance.
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What about the fact he's lost the dressing room which was an accurate reflection of events as a Light house keeper in Stornaway confirmed it .ForeverAddickted said:
Yes you are going mad... Thankfully you're not the only one... If we stay up, then the question over Jones as Manager should never even be consideredcafcnick1992 said:
Well of course he'll stay. He'll stay because the club is progressing under his watch.KingKinsella said:
Only problem if we stay up is NJ will stay as well. Its like a recurring nightmare "what the hell am I doing here"Nug said:Dreadful performance. So negative at home against one of the bottom teams. We made them look like Brazil. We ain’t winning many games till the end of the season playing like that. Hopefully we can scrape enough to stay up. Very despondent after that, they out fought and outplayed us. We should have been more positive after our last couple of games.
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I thought last night was a clear reflection that he's obviously lost the team againBailey said:
What about the fact he's lost the dressing room which was an accurate reflection of events as a Light house keeper in Stornaway confirmed it .ForeverAddickted said:
Yes you are going mad... Thankfully you're not the only one... If we stay up, then the question over Jones as Manager should never even be consideredcafcnick1992 said:
Well of course he'll stay. He'll stay because the club is progressing under his watch.KingKinsella said:
Only problem if we stay up is NJ will stay as well. Its like a recurring nightmare "what the hell am I doing here"Nug said:Dreadful performance. So negative at home against one of the bottom teams. We made them look like Brazil. We ain’t winning many games till the end of the season playing like that. Hopefully we can scrape enough to stay up. Very despondent after that, they out fought and outplayed us. We should have been more positive after our last couple of games.
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