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2026/27 Season Tickets (Pricing and Message from Gavin Carter, pg.8)

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  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 17,037
    There’s a clue to longevity in Valley Gold numbers if anyone cares to look.
  • doronron
    doronron Posts: 842
    3 times in the last dozen years I have moved and enjoyed all my time at each move,remember, its only your seat to loan for each season,not yours to own 
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 21,481
    doronron said:
    3 times in the last dozen years I have moved and enjoyed all my time at each move,remember, its only your seat to loan for each season,not yours to own 
    Said absolutely nobody on this thread.

  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,393
    edited March 24
    Renewed last week, as someone said I wil always whatever division we are in. I am sure the people around me will be delighted. 

    Maybe conflict with ebbsfleet if we're both in conference south. 
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 8,669
    DOUCHER said:
    Sword65pf said:
    The club really should offer some kind of gesture to those forced to move, it’s how any business should treat its most loyal and valuable “customers”.
    Who decides who the most loyal fans are? and what are the parameters for one fan being more ‘loyal’ than the next? 
    My dad has been going week in week out since he was 9 years old which is 74 years ago and has had a season ticket every year since they were invented. Without getting into the away fan debate, i think the club should know if you've had a season ticket every year since the early 80's? if they don't, they should do, before turfing you out of your seat and maybe adjust the approach to doing that accordingly the same as the regular away game attenders should be looked after when tickets for an away game are hard to come by. People don't go to football to be given accolades for attendance but like any club, be it a ciu, an amateur sports club or whatever, being a loyal and longstanding member should mean something and give you preferential treatment over a pick and mix fairweather boy. 
    They don't and it's hardly their fault. There weren't digital records in the past. Something I did in 2012 was sift and discard a lot of old paper records with people's credit card numbers and other personal data via the confidential waste, but it was all very random and incomplete. No way could you have assembled who had what over 30 years, even if you were minded to do so. I was looking for stuff that had archive value to retain before it was all chucked. Since 1992 there have been multiple changes of ticketing system and they won't have migrated all the historic data each time as it has little value to the club as a business.
    I did wonder but still think it’s something football clubs should take the effort to know 
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 8,669
    Sword65pf said:
    DOUCHER said:
    Sword65pf said:
    The club really should offer some kind of gesture to those forced to move, it’s how any business should treat its most loyal and valuable “customers”.
    Who decides who the most loyal fans are? and what are the parameters for one fan being more ‘loyal’ than the next? 
    My dad has been going week in week out since he was 9 years old which is 74 years ago and has had a season ticket every year since they were invented. Without getting into the away fan debate, i think the club should know if you've had a season ticket every year since the early 80's? if they don't, they should do, before turfing you out of your seat and maybe adjust the approach to doing that accordingly the same as the regular away game attenders should be looked after when tickets for an away game are hard to come by. People don't go to football to be given accolades for attendance but like any club, be it a ciu, an amateur sports club or whatever, being a loyal and longstanding member should mean something and give you preferential treatment over a pick and mix fairweather boy. 
    They don't and it's hardly their fault. There weren't digital records in the past. Something I did in 2012 was sift and discard a lot of old paper records with people's credit card numbers and other personal data via the confidential waste, but it was all very random and incomplete. No way could you have assembled who had what over 30 years, even if you were minded to do so. I was looking for stuff that had archive value to retain before it was all chucked. Since 1992 there have been multiple changes of ticketing system and they won't have migrated all the historic data each time as it has little value to the club as a business.
    That’s not going to go down well with Charlton royalty, not being recognised, how will they ever prove they are top of the loyalty league!!😂
    You joke but in ciu clubs as people die u move down the list - my grandad mate it to Nr.2 at Lee ciu - if they can do it, why not football clubs ? They should as loyalty is a big thing in football support - at least it should be 
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 8,669
    Sword65pf said:
    Sword65pf said:
    DOUCHER said:
    Sword65pf said:
    The club really should offer some kind of gesture to those forced to move, it’s how any business should treat its most loyal and valuable “customers”.
    Who decides who the most loyal fans are? and what are the parameters for one fan being more ‘loyal’ than the next? 
    My dad has been going week in week out since he was 9 years old which is 74 years ago and has had a season ticket every year since they were invented. Without getting into the away fan debate, i think the club should know if you've had a season ticket every year since the early 80's? if they don't, they should do, before turfing you out of your seat and maybe adjust the approach to doing that accordingly the same as the regular away game attenders should be looked after when tickets for an away game are hard to come by. People don't go to football to be given accolades for attendance but like any club, be it a ciu, an amateur sports club or whatever, being a loyal and longstanding member should mean something and give you preferential treatment over a pick and mix fairweather boy. 
    They don't and it's hardly their fault. There weren't digital records in the past. Something I did in 2012 was sift and discard a lot of old paper records with people's credit card numbers and other personal data via the confidential waste, but it was all very random and incomplete. No way could you have assembled who had what over 30 years, even if you were minded to do so. I was looking for stuff that had archive value to retain before it was all chucked. Since 1992 there have been multiple changes of ticketing system and they won't have migrated all the historic data each time as it has little value to the club as a business.
    That’s not going to go down well with Charlton royalty, not being recognised, how will they ever prove they are top of the loyalty league!!😂
    Are you a new troll or have you trolled under a different username previously?  :)
    What’s a troll? I must be a new one whatever it is🤷🏻‍♂️ sounds nasty😂have you always been so sensitive or is it a new thing?

    just for clarity I’m being flippant with the loyalty thing, as far as I’m concerned everyone is welcome at Charlton, Day trippers or super loyal fans, I’ve  been going a long time and have never expected anything other than watching football at the club I love and am loyal too, I don’t need to prove or rely on trying to be more loyal than the next person. Others seem to think they deserve stuff because they are really loyal!! the only time any loyalty recompense I would question is if somehow we had over 20,000 season ticket holders and I suddenly ended up on a waiting list after attending for 49years.That’s not happening and so there is enough space for all that want to go at the moment, as far as I’m concerned the more the merrier. I know young lads that go home and away and have for a few years, you try telling them they are less loyal than me for example. 
    Everyone’s welcome but loyalty does and should count at football clubs 
  • DOUCHER said:
    DOUCHER said:
    Sword65pf said:
    The club really should offer some kind of gesture to those forced to move, it’s how any business should treat its most loyal and valuable “customers”.
    Who decides who the most loyal fans are? and what are the parameters for one fan being more ‘loyal’ than the next? 
    My dad has been going week in week out since he was 9 years old which is 74 years ago and has had a season ticket every year since they were invented. Without getting into the away fan debate, i think the club should know if you've had a season ticket every year since the early 80's? if they don't, they should do, before turfing you out of your seat and maybe adjust the approach to doing that accordingly the same as the regular away game attenders should be looked after when tickets for an away game are hard to come by. People don't go to football to be given accolades for attendance but like any club, be it a ciu, an amateur sports club or whatever, being a loyal and longstanding member should mean something and give you preferential treatment over a pick and mix fairweather boy. 
    They don't and it's hardly their fault. There weren't digital records in the past. Something I did in 2012 was sift and discard a lot of old paper records with people's credit card numbers and other personal data via the confidential waste, but it was all very random and incomplete. No way could you have assembled who had what over 30 years, even if you were minded to do so. I was looking for stuff that had archive value to retain before it was all chucked. Since 1992 there have been multiple changes of ticketing system and they won't have migrated all the historic data each time as it has little value to the club as a business.
    I did wonder but still think it’s something football clubs should take the effort to know 
    Was out with a Palace mate at the weekend. He is deliberating going to the Fiorentina away game as he has enough points.  Blew my mind as he probably does one away game every 10 years.
    Their points system doesn't get scrubbed every 2 yrs and he has had a season ticket for probably 20 or so and hence qualifies for a ticket ahead of younger fans who have been going 5 or so and go to every away game!
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 1,563
    DOUCHER said:
    Sword65pf said:
    Sword65pf said:
    DOUCHER said:
    Sword65pf said:
    The club really should offer some kind of gesture to those forced to move, it’s how any business should treat its most loyal and valuable “customers”.
    Who decides who the most loyal fans are? and what are the parameters for one fan being more ‘loyal’ than the next? 
    My dad has been going week in week out since he was 9 years old which is 74 years ago and has had a season ticket every year since they were invented. Without getting into the away fan debate, i think the club should know if you've had a season ticket every year since the early 80's? if they don't, they should do, before turfing you out of your seat and maybe adjust the approach to doing that accordingly the same as the regular away game attenders should be looked after when tickets for an away game are hard to come by. People don't go to football to be given accolades for attendance but like any club, be it a ciu, an amateur sports club or whatever, being a loyal and longstanding member should mean something and give you preferential treatment over a pick and mix fairweather boy. 
    They don't and it's hardly their fault. There weren't digital records in the past. Something I did in 2012 was sift and discard a lot of old paper records with people's credit card numbers and other personal data via the confidential waste, but it was all very random and incomplete. No way could you have assembled who had what over 30 years, even if you were minded to do so. I was looking for stuff that had archive value to retain before it was all chucked. Since 1992 there have been multiple changes of ticketing system and they won't have migrated all the historic data each time as it has little value to the club as a business.
    That’s not going to go down well with Charlton royalty, not being recognised, how will they ever prove they are top of the loyalty league!!😂
    Are you a new troll or have you trolled under a different username previously?  :)
    What’s a troll? I must be a new one whatever it is🤷🏻‍♂️ sounds nasty😂have you always been so sensitive or is it a new thing?

    just for clarity I’m being flippant with the loyalty thing, as far as I’m concerned everyone is welcome at Charlton, Day trippers or super loyal fans, I’ve  been going a long time and have never expected anything other than watching football at the club I love and am loyal too, I don’t need to prove or rely on trying to be more loyal than the next person. Others seem to think they deserve stuff because they are really loyal!! the only time any loyalty recompense I would question is if somehow we had over 20,000 season ticket holders and I suddenly ended up on a waiting list after attending for 49years.That’s not happening and so there is enough space for all that want to go at the moment, as far as I’m concerned the more the merrier. I know young lads that go home and away and have for a few years, you try telling them they are less loyal than me for example. 
    Everyone’s welcome but loyalty does and should count at football clubs 
    I have no problem with people being loyal, that’s great in fact, but disagree that people should be treated any different / better because they have been going longer because they are older, or more because it is possible within a lifestyle( money/ life in general), probably the usual few people loling my every post earlier in the thread, which is fine,have more respect for you Doucher as you make you’re point, whether we agree or not. but there are other factors contribute to how loyal someone is able to be. My Dad for example went to every game for a long time, hence why I support Charlton, he doesn’t go that much now due to health, is he suddenly not loyal?? As he has probably still racked up more games than a lot on here telling us how super loyal they are and what they deserve for it. As I’ve said I expect nothing in return from the club for my loyalty other than hopefully a good game of football with players showing pride in the shirt, that’s how it’s always been.

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  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 1,542
    clive said:
    Looks like we’re on course to beat the 12.5k for this season then positive 
  • superclive98
    superclive98 Posts: 5,200
    clive said:
    Looks like we’re on course to beat the 12.5k for this season then positive 
    That's far from guaranteed.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 33,551
    clive said:
    Still awaiting news on Valley Express as to whether there are any route changes and any price increases.
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 1,563
    clive said:
    Looks like we’re on course to beat the 12.5k for this season then positive 
    That's far from guaranteed.
    A good end to the season and summer signings will give it a boost hopefully.
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,714
    clive said:
    Looks like we’re on course to beat the 12.5k for this season then positive 
    Good Marketing that. No figures quoted but using previous years/seasons as a guide
  • superclive98
    superclive98 Posts: 5,200
    Sword65pf said:
    clive said:
    Looks like we’re on course to beat the 12.5k for this season then positive 
    That's far from guaranteed.
    A good end to the season and summer signings will give it a boost hopefully.
    That would certainly help but phase one ends on 28 April, before any signings will be made.
    Any existing ST holders would be mad not to renew in phase one if they are going to get one, hence the good take-up thus far.
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 1,563
    Sword65pf said:
    clive said:
    Looks like we’re on course to beat the 12.5k for this season then positive 
    That's far from guaranteed.
    A good end to the season and summer signings will give it a boost hopefully.
    That would certainly help but phase one ends on 28 April, before any signings will be made.
    Any existing ST holders would be mad not to renew in phase one if they are going to get one, hence the good take-up thus far.
    Yes agree, keep the  season ticket holders they have already 1st, it then gets more tricky particularly in the current climate as a football season ticket isn’t the priority, so a bit of clever thinking and the couple of things I mentioned in my last post are needed. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 71,415
    clive said:
    Looks like we’re on course to beat the 12.5k for this season then positive 
    I'm not sure that follows. All it shows is that existing ST ticket holders have renewed slightly earlier than in previous years, mainly because they've gone on sale a bit earlier . If a quick google search is correct, this year they went on sale on the 6th March, last year on the 20th March, so 2 weeks later.

    Personally I think it's odd to renew so early, when the deadline is at the end of April. I'd rather keep my money for another month  :)
     
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,714
    edited March 24
    clive said:
    Looks like we’re on course to beat the 12.5k for this season then positive 
    I'm not sure that follows. All it shows is that existing ST ticket holders have renewed slightly earlier than in previous years, mainly because they've gone on sale a bit earlier . If a quick google search is correct, this year they went on sale on the 6th March, last year on the 20th March, so 2 weeks later.

    Personally I think it's odd to renew so early, when the deadline is at the end of April. I'd rather keep my money for another month  :)
     
    Also all those individuals who have been moved from their seats in the Lower West, have more than likely renewed early as of their meetings on the 18th last week and have grabbed what’s available now instead of being moved down the pecking order later on into the end of April
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,853
    clive said:
    Still awaiting news on Valley Express as to whether there are any route changes and any price increases.
    For transparency, there’s a discussion about Valley Express to which I have contributed privately. Not for me to say, but I wouldn’t anticipate it changing in a negative way.

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  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,853
    clive said:
    I can guarantee you that that is completely meaningless in terms of final numbers.
  • Briston_Addick
    Briston_Addick Posts: 13,093
    clive said:
    Still awaiting news on Valley Express as to whether there are any route changes and any price increases.
    I'm looking forward to the North Norfolk route being announced.
  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 6,193
    edited March 24
    clive said:
    I can guarantee you that that is completely meaningless in terms of final numbers.
    Yep, I can image there will be a big drop off in sales momentum once the early bird/renewal period is over and youre relying on selling the full price season tickets to new buyers.

    I hope Im wrong and we finally start to creep up on 15k season tickets sold by August. 
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 33,551
    clive said:
    Still awaiting news on Valley Express as to whether there are any route changes and any price increases.
    For transparency, there’s a discussion about Valley Express to which I have contributed privately. Not for me to say, but I wouldn’t anticipate it changing in a negative way.
    Yes I’d heard there was a meeting with Bayliss last Friday. There have been a few vocal fans on our coach (Bexhill) moaning about the length of time they are on the coach and wanting the route modified. I personally don’t think that’s possible without cutting out a stop or two where most fans actually get on so counterproductive. It’s a shame there are not any feasible places to stop on the A21 without us having to divert into towns to pick up.
  • WrightCharlie
    WrightCharlie Posts: 798
    clive said:
    Still awaiting news on Valley Express as to whether there are any route changes and any price increases.
    I'm looking forward to the North Norfolk route being announced.
    Ooooh, when it is I'd loved to be picked up in Suffolk on your way down please  :)
  • T_C_E
    T_C_E Posts: 16,551
    clive said:
    Still awaiting news on Valley Express as to whether there are any route changes and any price increases.
    I'm looking forward to the North Norfolk route being announced.
    Been added to the Larkfield pickup points. 😉
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 14,270
    CAFCTrev said:
    clive said:
    I can guarantee you that that is completely meaningless in terms of final numbers.
    Yep, I can image there will be a big drop off in sales momentum once the early bird/renewal period is over and youre relying on selling the full price season tickets to new buyers.

    I hope Im wrong and we finally start to creep up on 15k season tickets sold by August. 
    I think 14k would be a realistic goal.
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 5,306
    shine166 said:
    CAFCTrev said:
    clive said:
    I can guarantee you that that is completely meaningless in terms of final numbers.
    Yep, I can image there will be a big drop off in sales momentum once the early bird/renewal period is over and youre relying on selling the full price season tickets to new buyers.

    I hope Im wrong and we finally start to creep up on 15k season tickets sold by August. 
    I think 14k would be a realistic goal.
    I’d be surprised and impressed if they get any increase on last year. 

    To me it’s simply maths for many.

     It’s a no brainer to renew at the cheapest time so yes you  get a large slice there (now).  But for those unsure / less committed you have to overcome the fact that some realise they overpaid when you take out the games you inevitably miss due to holiday/sickness/scheduling  etc.  Then you lose those who were caught up in the excitement of promotion but now know the reality of ‘survival’. Then we lose some to financial pressures in the current climate. And by contrast I don’t see many newbies being attracted by any great incentives not least because paying match by match online  is straightforward. 

    Harsh reality I think. 
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,660
    Renewed last week, as someone said I wil always whatever division we are in. I am sure the people around me will be delighted. 

    Maybe conflict with ebbsfleet if we're both in conference south. 
    Eh?
  • MartinCAFC
    MartinCAFC Posts: 3,330
    clive said:
    Looks like we’re on course to beat the 12.5k for this season then positive 
    I'm not sure that follows. All it shows is that existing ST ticket holders have renewed slightly earlier than in previous years, mainly because they've gone on sale a bit earlier . If a quick google search is correct, this year they went on sale on the 6th March, last year on the 20th March, so 2 weeks later.

    Personally I think it's odd to renew so early, when the deadline is at the end of April. I'd rather keep my money for another month  :)
     
    Sometimes it's a lot easier to just pay for something when you have the money there in your account to do so rather than sitting on it and then potentially getting used for something else if money's tight.