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  • fenaddick said:
    Disappointing we won’t get a fee though
    We clearly were asking for more than teams were willing to play.
    Are we not able to lower our price if needed? A fee of 400k is better than a loan.
    Clearly not 
  • wolfgang
    wolfgang Posts: 1,177
    wolfgang said:

    Chatting to Wimbledon’s DOF (who I randomly met on a plane in the US), he said that he started well there but quickly faded, and JJ had no intention of trying to bring him back this year. Their opinion is that he needs a few seasons playing week in week out in the National League or League Two. 
    What the fuck does he know? They are nearly bottom of League Two.  :) 
    Mid table league one
    So they are! What the fuck do I know? 
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 11,252
    wolfgang said:

    Chatting to Wimbledon’s DOF (who I randomly met on a plane in the US), he said that he started well there but quickly faded, and JJ had no intention of trying to bring him back this year. Their opinion is that he needs a few seasons playing week in week out in the National League or League Two. 
    What the fuck does he know? They are nearly bottom of League Two.  :) 
    For a start, I’m guessing he knows what league they are in!!!
  • grumpyaddick
    grumpyaddick Posts: 6,642
    CAFCsayer said:
    Minnesota United fans on Twitter seem to think McCowatt on his way there 
    Boo
    Snm
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 18,870
    edited August 30
    fenaddick said:
    Disappointing we won’t get a fee though
    We clearly were asking for more than teams were willing to play.
    We were asking a lot for a player who is unproven at L1 level and is also out of contract next summer. 
  • MeerKat
    MeerKat Posts: 147
    Chunes said:
    fenaddick said:
    Disappointing we won’t get a fee though
    We clearly were asking for more than teams were willing to play.
    We were asking a lot for a player who is unproven at L1 level and is also out of contract next summer. 
    Is there no chance we could extend his contract? 2 year deal and let him out on loan again would be ideal imo.
  • RedRobin
    RedRobin Posts: 1,473
    I just have a funny feeling we will end up with Ogbene!! Which will be so meh after the saga we’ve had with JRS. I’m still hoping that happens. 
  • fenaddick said:
    Disappointing we won’t get a fee though
    We clearly were asking for more than teams were willing to play.
    But why not lower the price rather than lose him for free? It’s a market after all. You’d have thought we could make him sign a one year extension as part of agreeing the loan
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,884
    RedRobin said:
    I just have a funny feeling we will end up with Ogbene!! Which will be so meh after the saga we’ve had with JRS. I’m still hoping that happens. 
    Linked with Stoke and given he was at the very best our second choice I suspect we don't care enough to get caught in bidding conflict this close to the end of the window.
    Im very sure a RW comes in this week, but no idea which.
  • RC_CAFC
    RC_CAFC Posts: 2,085
    fenaddick said:
    Disappointing we won’t get a fee though
    We clearly were asking for more than teams were willing to play.
    But why not lower the price rather than lose him for free? It’s a market after all. You’d have thought we could make him sign a one year extension as part of agreeing the loan
    He won’t leave for free as we’ll offer him a new contract so there is a tribunal fee.

    But I suppose the loan has a few benefits, if he’s flying and we’re low on numbers he could be included back in. Equally if he’s doing well we could agree to new contracts on the condition he’s included as a senior squad member next year.

    I think ultimately though. Jones has said he’ll always do what’s best for the player in these circumstances and that for Kanu is to get out and get playing.

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  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 6,434
    Seems like Carey has become the new scapegoat after just a few games trying to fit into a new system of play.
    Without his goals last season we'd probably have been relegated. 
    He was also fine in the first 2 games. He was poor yesterday but it’s 1 half of football. I still think he will probably be starting on Wednesday, a tough away game where we will probably need his work rate 
  • Oligab
    Oligab Posts: 48
    Chunes said:
    fenaddick said:
    Disappointing we won’t get a fee though
    We clearly were asking for more than teams were willing to play.
    We were asking a lot for a player who is unproven at L1 level and is also out of contract next summer. 

  • Southbank
    Southbank Posts: 5,862
    edited August 30
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  • Oligab
    Oligab Posts: 48
    Perhaps  the high price was a red herring to make sure we get him another decent loan instead of a sale to see if he can improve enough to keep him a Charlton player .The coaching staff may really believe in him but needs to develop .
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  • Southbank
    Southbank Posts: 5,862
    edited August 30
    Scoham said:
    All three linked with us, played for us or both at some point.


    I’m amazed Elliot Lee is still at Wrexham. 
    It's really hard shifting L1 level players, when they are on salary levels more akin to a lower Championship club.

    Which is exactly the problem we are having with likes of Tanto, Apter and Knibbs. All on long contracts, and all on better wages than all L1 clubs (other than presumably Leicester and Wednesday) are able to pay.
    For all the good recruiting we've done this summer the final pieces are are being hampered by the signings made last summer.

    I can understand making 1 or 2 poor signings but currently we have Ahadme & Tanto out on loan, with Apter, Knibbs Carey & JRC not really part of our plans going forwards. 

    As you say, you can't make players leave & even if you could  there doesn't seem to be the appetite out there to take them....even on loan. 

    .you can remove Carey and JRC from that, they clearly have a part to play and have been doing what they need to do. 

    JRC plays some excellent passes one which allowed Coventry to play in Leaburn the other week 
    You can pick out moments, and its always possible to be surprised about players improving.
    But I think there is a growing concensus that for differing reasons Carey, Knibbs, Costello and Burke are not really making the grade.
    Shame, but there it is.
  • Southbank
    Southbank Posts: 5,862
    Seems like Carey has become the new scapegoat after just a few games trying to fit into a new system of play.
    Without his goals last season we'd probably have been relegated. 
    Last season is so last season. He is currently not making the grade. If he improves, good. But personally I think with our new set up the 10 is more vital than last season. He is not cutting it.

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  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 28,705
    edited August 30
    Would we get a development fee for Kanu at the end of the season if he goes somewhere?
  • Southbank said:
    Scoham said:
    All three linked with us, played for us or both at some point.


    I’m amazed Elliot Lee is still at Wrexham. 
    It's really hard shifting L1 level players, when they are on salary levels more akin to a lower Championship club.

    Which is exactly the problem we are having with likes of Tanto, Apter and Knibbs. All on long contracts, and all on better wages than all L1 clubs (other than presumably Leicester and Wednesday) are able to pay.
    For all the good recruiting we've done this summer the final pieces are are being hampered by the signings made last summer.

    I can understand making 1 or 2 poor signings but currently we have Ahadme & Tanto out on loan, with Apter, Knibbs Carey & JRC not really part of our plans going forwards. 

    As you say, you can't make players leave & even if you could  there doesn't seem to be the appetite out there to take them....even on loan. 

    .you can remove Carey and JRC from that, they clearly have a part to play and have been doing what they need to do. 

    JRC plays some excellent passes one which allowed Coventry to play in Leaburn the other week 
    You can pick out moments, and its always possible to be surprised about players improving.
    But I think there is a growing concensus that for differing reasons Carey, Knibbs, Costello and Burke are not really making the grade.
    Shame, but there it is.
    There what is? 

    Carey and JRC are contributing to the team and contributing effectively. They aid in how we play when they are called on. 

    JRC is used a bench option which is perfectly fine. 

    There’s no rush to get rid of a sensible bench option because who’s going to take his place? 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 22,080
    Would we get a development fee for Kanu at the end of the season if he goes somewhere?
    I think so. I suspect it’s why we set a high fee and why we’re willing to let him go on loan. If he does well the compensation could be higher than anything we’d get this summer 
  • ns9
    ns9 Posts: 142
    Southbank said:
    Scoham said:
    All three linked with us, played for us or both at some point.


    I’m amazed Elliot Lee is still at Wrexham. 
    It's really hard shifting L1 level players, when they are on salary levels more akin to a lower Championship club.

    Which is exactly the problem we are having with likes of Tanto, Apter and Knibbs. All on long contracts, and all on better wages than all L1 clubs (other than presumably Leicester and Wednesday) are able to pay.
    For all the good recruiting we've done this summer the final pieces are are being hampered by the signings made last summer.

    I can understand making 1 or 2 poor signings but currently we have Ahadme & Tanto out on loan, with Apter, Knibbs Carey & JRC not really part of our plans going forwards. 

    As you say, you can't make players leave & even if you could  there doesn't seem to be the appetite out there to take them....even on loan. 

    .you can remove Carey and JRC from that, they clearly have a part to play and have been doing what they need to do. 

    JRC plays some excellent passes one which allowed Coventry to play in Leaburn the other week 
    You can pick out moments, and its always possible to be surprised about players improving.
    But I think there is a growing concensus that for differing reasons Carey, Knibbs, Costello and Burke are not really making the grade.
    Shame, but there it is.
    Sonny Carey not making the grade? And being grouped in with those 3 others?

    Let’s enjoy being top while it lasts and not digging out our best players for no reason whatsoever. For the avoidance of doubt, Carey is unquestionably one of them 
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 87,012
    Southbank said:
    Scoham said:
    All three linked with us, played for us or both at some point.


    I’m amazed Elliot Lee is still at Wrexham. 
    It's really hard shifting L1 level players, when they are on salary levels more akin to a lower Championship club.

    Which is exactly the problem we are having with likes of Tanto, Apter and Knibbs. All on long contracts, and all on better wages than all L1 clubs (other than presumably Leicester and Wednesday) are able to pay.
    For all the good recruiting we've done this summer the final pieces are are being hampered by the signings made last summer.

    I can understand making 1 or 2 poor signings but currently we have Ahadme & Tanto out on loan, with Apter, Knibbs Carey & JRC not really part of our plans going forwards. 

    As you say, you can't make players leave & even if you could  there doesn't seem to be the appetite out there to take them....even on loan. 

    .you can remove Carey and JRC from that, they clearly have a part to play and have been doing what they need to do. 

    JRC plays some excellent passes one which allowed Coventry to play in Leaburn the other week 
    You can pick out moments, and its always possible to be surprised about players improving.
    But I think there is a growing concensus that for differing reasons Carey, Knibbs, Costello and Burke are not really making the grade.
    Shame, but there it is.
    Consensus among fans, and I'd dispute there is even that, doesn't matter

    At present Jones is selecting Carey and JRC.
  • se9addick said:
    fenaddick said:
    Scoham said:
    All three linked with us, played for us or both at some point.


    I’m amazed Elliot Lee is still at Wrexham. 
    It's really hard shifting L1 level players, when they are on salary levels more akin to a lower Championship club.

    Which is exactly the problem we are having with likes of Tanto, Apter and Knibbs. All on long contracts, and all on better wages than all L1 clubs (other than presumably Leicester and Wednesday) are able to pay.
    For all the good recruiting we've done this summer the final pieces are are being hampered by the signings made last summer.

    I can understand making 1 or 2 poor signings but currently we have Ahadme & Tanto out on loan, with Apter, Knibbs Carey & JRC not really part of our plans going forwards. 

    As you say, you can't make players leave & even if you could  there doesn't seem to be the appetite out there to take them....even on loan. 
    Ahadme wasn’t signed last summer, Carey has played in every game bar Spurs and JRC has played every game other than Cheltenham. I don’t think either are out of our plans. So there are 2/3 poor signings from last summer but we managed to shift 1 out to a team playing in the same division as us so he isn’t really hampering us at all 
    I bet we're playing a decent chunk of Tanto's wages though. Ditto Ahadme. And when we loan out Apter (and maybe Knibbs), we'll have to do the same thing.

    So several million pounds paid out for players not playing for us, and for which we are still paying some wages.

    Of course transfer business will always have some failures, but it's striking how many of our best players have been with us for a while or are from this summer.
    I wonder how much we’ll be paying in total for players to play for someone else by the time the window shuts next week. 

    I guess it’s a consequence of getting promoted and kicking on this season. Some of the players we brought in last year just aren’t at the level that the rest of the squad are, but to get them in we had to give them decent contracts that make it hard to shift them now. 
    Probably less than most of league because we have some of the lowest wages in the league.
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,569
    NabySarr said:
    Carey being written off after 1 poor half of football. Alli was being written off after 1 start against spurs and quickly proved those doubters wrong. Carey will be fine and I’m sure he will pop up with a goal soon and everyone will go back to loving him 
    He had a poor second half of last season and he’s been poor this season. I can’t see him developing the technical abilities needed to be the player we need in that role in this new system. 
  • BigDiddy
    BigDiddy Posts: 1,577
    Seems like Carey has become the new scapegoat after just a few games trying to fit into a new system of play.
    Without his goals last season we'd probably have been relegated. 
    He just looks off the pace. Mwamba at age 19 looks better at this moment.

    Carey is a decent player and surely NJ is entitled to change his formation?

    It’s not about him being scapegoated - more that his skills are somewhat limited compared to what we need now.

    i reckon he will play in games, but after he was subbed yesterday, we improved and eventually won the game.


  • BigDiddy
    BigDiddy Posts: 1,577
    NabySarr said:
    Carey being written off after 1 poor half of football. Alli was being written off after 1 start against spurs and quickly proved those doubters wrong. Carey will be fine and I’m sure he will pop up with a goal soon and everyone will go back to loving him 
    That’s the point. 

    I have [like many others] NOT written him off, but that does not mean he is irreplaceable.