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England vs Uruguay

This has got to be one of the worst Refereeing performances I've ever seen

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  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 16,268
    One of the worst punditry performances from Lee Dixon as well 
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 38,448
    What the actual fuck have I just seen

    two yellows and no sending off then that decision hahaha
  • Cafctekkers
    Cafctekkers Posts: 1,315
    He's had a shocker, thankfully it's only a friendly but you can't be giving two yellows to a player and not send him off in an international level game
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 98,807
    What the actual fuck have I just seen

    two yellows and no sending off then that decision hahaha
    Could argue that Maguire should have had a penalty for a shirt pull that was similar to the one that Jones won vs. Oxford
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 16,268
    How did VAR not intervene on the Foden tackle 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 98,807
    How did VAR not intervene on the Foden tackle 
    I think they forgot to switch it on before we scored.
  • IdleHans
    IdleHans Posts: 11,283
    edited March 27
    One of the worst punditry performances from Lee Dixon as well 
    Matterface worse in my opinion. Used the word incommunicado to mean the exact opposite of what it actually means, at least twice. Idiot.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 29,240
    VAR doesn't get involved with the dodgy tackle on Foden, the bloke trying to take off McGuire's shirt or the bloke who got two bookings.

    But a 50/50 in the box which the ref had a clear view of ? Yeah, we'll have some of that!
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 38,448
    A friendly but the most pointless game of football ever. That’s a quota filler and a complete waste of time.
  • Clem_Snide
    Clem_Snide Posts: 11,982
    Referee has passed his interview/trial for a job in the Championship with flying colours. 

    The tackle on Foden was a proper leg breaker and Foden was lucky to walk away from it.

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  • Addictedoldgit
    Addictedoldgit Posts: 1,877
    Really incompetent referee.

    Plus, a poor game to watch.
  • Starinnaddick
    Starinnaddick Posts: 4,487
    Don't forget that Graham Poll issued 2 yellows to a player in the World Cup and failed to send him off. 
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 13,283
    Very poor performance. Not sure any of the fringe players staked a decent claim for a spot on the plane
  • I don't really see the point of booking an International match at Wembley to play a load of fringe players - with a view to bring on a further seven fringe players.  Isn't that a training session? 

    Surely assess those most likely at the training camp, slot them into the first team and see if they can bring something to the party.
  • rina
    rina Posts: 2,352
    Don't forget that Graham Poll issued 2 yellows to a player in the World Cup and failed to send him off. 
    to be fair he did actually send him off, just not until the 3rd yellow card
  • thickandthin63
    thickandthin63 Posts: 3,065
    What a farcial evenings entertainment.Had I paid to watch that I would have been fuming,80000plus people paid to watch an England team but saw none of the regulars who usually start,just a load of fringe players who may or may not make the squad.
    Now on to the officialdom,words actually fail me on the level of incompetence last night.
    1)The guy who done Foden just had to go,that was a terrible lunge,did he even get booked.
    2)2 Yellow cards ,not sent off,a FIFA level official ,dear oh dear.
    3)Maguire dragged to the ground,so blatant ,VAR not really needed,nope,sod all,no review,anywhere else a pull back is a booking.
    4)50-50 ball,in our box,White a fraction late,player goes down as if been shot,VAR all over it,ref a quick glance,cant wait to give penalty.
    If this standard of officialdom is not improved at the world cup,it is going to be a farce.
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,677
    England v Uruguay, sets my teeth on edge.  Just reminds me of Omar Pouso and Dowie.
  • BalladMan
    BalladMan Posts: 1,326
    What a farcial evenings entertainment.Had I paid to watch that I would have been fuming,80000plus people paid to watch an England team but saw none of the regulars who usually start,just a load of fringe players who may or may not make the squad.
    Now on to the officialdom,words actually fail me on the level of incompetence last night.
    1)The guy who done Foden just had to go,that was a terrible lunge,did he even get booked.
    2)2 Yellow cards ,not sent off,a FIFA level official ,dear oh dear.
    3)Maguire dragged to the ground,so blatant ,VAR not really needed,nope,sod all,no review,anywhere else a pull back is a booking.
    4)50-50 ball,in our box,White a fraction late,player goes down as if been shot,VAR all over it,ref a quick glance,cant wait to give penalty.
    If this standard of officialdom is not improved at the world cup,it is going to be a farce.
    I did go and it was a disappointing game and atmosphere. 

    Playing England C team is a piss take to the 80k who turned up and bought tickets weeks ago. 

    To your points 
    1. No he didn’t even get a yellow or VAR check, shocking 
    2. No more needs to be said, should never happen and the backtracking by the ref now is making it worse 
    3.  The wrestling that goes on in the box now is ruining the chance of any decent football. Maguire was as bad as the Uruguay player 
    4. Was a pen. We got one similar in the last euros, they will always be given when slow mo and VAR kick in. 


  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 17,254
    We'd all be furious if a defender made that challenge against Dykes or Leaburn in the box and we didn't get a pen
  • Hartleypete
    Hartleypete Posts: 4,776
    edited March 28
    Ref was a wanker!

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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 71,422
    In a game versus a really solid and physical Uruguay team, I can't help thinking that Trent AA would have made us a lot more dangerous going forward, as he's direct and whips in early crosses, when so many of the other England players prefer cutting in, and getting swamped by the mass of Uruguay players blocking the goal.


  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,545
    That was like watching charlton
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 27,425
    What a farcial evenings entertainment.Had I paid to watch that I would have been fuming,80000plus people paid to watch an England team but saw none of the regulars who usually start,just a load of fringe players who may or may not make the squad.
    Now on to the officialdom,words actually fail me on the level of incompetence last night.
    1)The guy who done Foden just had to go,that was a terrible lunge,did he even get booked.
    2)2 Yellow cards ,not sent off,a FIFA level official ,dear oh dear.
    3)Maguire dragged to the ground,so blatant ,VAR not really needed,nope,sod all,no review,anywhere else a pull back is a booking.
    4)50-50 ball,in our box,White a fraction late,player goes down as if been shot,VAR all over it,ref a quick glance,cant wait to give penalty.
    If this standard of officialdom is not improved at the world cup,it is going to be a farce.
    When do you suggest he should try out players he is not sure about, other than in a friendly ? 
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 10,082
    edited March 28
    Oops
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 10,082
    edited March 28
    MrOneLung said:
    What a farcial evenings entertainment.Had I paid to watch that I would have been fuming,80000plus people paid to watch an England team but saw none of the regulars who usually start,just a load of fringe players who may or may not make the squad.
    Now on to the officialdom,words actually fail me on the level of incompetence last night.
    1)The guy who done Foden just had to go,that was a terrible lunge,did he even get booked.
    2)2 Yellow cards ,not sent off,a FIFA level official ,dear oh dear.
    3)Maguire dragged to the ground,so blatant ,VAR not really needed,nope,sod all,no review,anywhere else a pull back is a booking.
    4)50-50 ball,in our box,White a fraction late,player goes down as if been shot,VAR all over it,ref a quick glance,cant wait to give penalty.
    If this standard of officialdom is not improved at the world cup,it is going to be a farce.
    When do you suggest he should try out players he is not sure about, other than in a friendly ? 
    He should try them out in two or threes but with the 7 or 8 who are already certain.  Mixing them all up in one fake team teaches you no more than watching them play for their clubs. It’s what Deschamps does, and he’s the master of international football management. 

    I watched a bit of France v Brazil and most of England v Uruguay, and it’s not the refereeing that pisses me off.

    Deschamps, hugely unappreciated by the French public and who would be a god by now if he were English, knows what he’s doing. He knows , with only three more friendlies to go, more or less what his team is. Meanwhile we have a bloody German in charge, who moans about the Wembley crowd, and he’s wasting these friendlies doing some mental masturbation about fringe players. I can’t believe that he’s undecided on Cole Palmer for example. Deschamps would have him straight in the team, behind Kane, getting the team purring in time for the World Cup.

    I reckon that other contenders, if indeed we are one, must be laughing at England.
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 27,425
    Have you seen Cole Palmer play this season ? 
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 10,082
    MrOneLung said:
    Have you seen Cole Palmer play this season ? 
    Yes, I watch all the MOTD highlights and he’s getting back better and better since his injury. He’s an absolute class above all the others in his position imo. 

    The point I made about him is only an example though. As a nation we do too much chopping and changing around all the time. The national team should be like a club team that changes gradually in its personnel. You can take a coupke out, try a coupke of new players in, without changing the whole core of the team all the time. Injuries will force you to do this anyway.
    Then we have this weird habit of bigging up a young player, saying that he’s going to be great, but really he often is a winger with pace and nothing else that special besides. Then a few years later he’s disappeared and there are some other youngsters who then fade in their turn. You don’t need to be always thinking about the future, just deal with the present.  A player’s career last about 15 years so you could theoretically have a core squad of 15, with only 1 in, 1 out per year. Instead we have a 35 man squad: wtf is that for?
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 17,254
    edited March 28
    Cole Palmer plays in the most competitive position in the England squad. What people don’t like about Tuchel (beyond the obvious) is that he doesn’t really pick on name or completely on club form, it’s how you fit into the system. It’s why Morgan Rogers has played so much, he’s the type of 10 that Tuchel likes. It’s also why TAA isn’t in the squad. He knows that later in tournaments the best teams have real threat out wide (Mbappe, Dembele, Yamal, Raphina etc) and so you need your full back to be a solid defender first and foremost which is why converted CBs like White, Quansah and Konsa are preferred. It’s different to what we’re used to in England and so people don’t like it 
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 10,082
    Is that really what people don’t like? I think a manager should have a system and not necessarily pick the ’best’ players, but make a team that functions together.

    If he prefers different players to me, I’ll accept that. Play Rogers instaed of Palmer if that’s what he thinks best. I’m not arrogant and I’ll assume that he can see something I don’t, fits the system better, or has a preference for the other because he compliments another player, or players, better. However, if this is the case, play Rogers. At this stage he should be doing small experiments with his preferred team not treating the match as a training exercise. It bollox preparation and it’s an insult to paying spectators.
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 21,484
    We went to the concourse at half-time for a pint and unanimously decided not to return to our seats. Empty tube back to Kings Cross (although there were crowds gathering behind us on Wembley Way that had the same idea!) and had a serious session in The Rocket on Euston Road until the wee small hours.

    I can't recall such a shit first half watching England and the crowd were not up for it either.