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POST-MATCH THREAD: Charlton Athletic v Ipswich Town: Wednesday 22nd April 2026: KO 19:45
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After reading the posts and having been at the match and having seen the full recording of the game against Ipswich I think I need to cheer myself up before Saturday’s home game at The Valley by treating myself to the 1985 Christmas Special Episode of the above. I’m sure if we start off well and keep the momentum going and not do anything silly in and around the box and keep the ball and don’t lose possession in key areas and play as a team we will get the result to stay up.Obviously this is conditional on not having a shit referee , which has been a problem for us throughout the season as has been pointed out in previous posts.3 -
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Happy for visitors to The Valley but FFS why can’t they manage more than 20 minutes between loo or refreshment breaks. At least the covered the loads of missing regulars around us in the West StandSimonsen said:Home fans were missing because some might not have been confident in the tube being back up and running after the strike and because for the most part, the home games have been shit to watch. W
But there were quite a few foreign visitors in the East Stand....Americans, Dutch, Italians and Germans all in attendance and no doubt others too.1 -
Burke and Gillesphey on either side, crikey.peterreeves said:If Bell, TC and Godden are out on Saturday are we thinking Burke and Gilly playing with Clarke and Chambers in front and Jones with Collins
Terrifying if Burke and Gilly play but do we have any other options?
I'm presuming midfield will be Doc, Cov Carey and Fev with Kelman and Dykes up front....
I think theres no point in defending we need to bust a gut from the word go...2 -
Maybe we've not seen the best of Knibbs, as all he's been generally used for this season is as a Chuks style lump in the box. At least Carey is quite mobile, does run forward with the ball and can take (adequate) set pieces, but Knibbs hasn't shown any of that for us, and has looked quite lumbering at times.golfaddick said:
The more I read on here & think about it the subs bench baffles me. There was no replacement for TC, no wide man or pace. But we had Berry, Knibbs & Carey all sitting there - all very similar in so much as they are midfielders who could nick a goal when coming on but aren't going to be an outlet or run at defences with the ball.killerandflash said:Losing to Ipswich is no disgrace. They have a massive budget, and a squad full of quality. Indeed I'd argue that they've slightly underperformed this season, considering their resources and stability.
I'd suggest that there's a slight similarity between last night and Arsenal's lose at City. In both cases the biggest issue isn't the performance in the defeat which was an improvement, it's the performances in the previous games. For all the jokes about Arsenal choking, are we any different? Six games after Boro, none of them against top six sides, and we failed to win any of them. 3 home games before last night that we lost by a single goal.
The draw at Wednesday was such a limp performance, if we had started like we did last night on Saturday, I don't think their defence would have coped. For 30 minutes, we looked like a decent football team.
Injuries badly affected us last night, but NJ really needs to look against at his Plan B, and his bench selection. For the last 25 minutes, we endlessly just lumped it into the box from the half way line, but those balls are so easy for decent defenders to clear. We never changed it up, passing it wide to find a better angle to cross the ball in, which might have dragged defenders out.
Carey was busy when he came on, but was having to play deep or out wide, so well away from the goal. Knibbs is a presence in the box, but do we need Dykes, Knibbs and Lloyd Jones all as targets in the box?
Surely you would only need 2 out of those 3 with the 3rd place going to a Fullah or a Dixon or a......I don't know, but something different !!
That's where we missed someone a bit different. We have a desperate lack of pace in the squad, of players who can run with the ball. Neither were great for us, but Tanto and Apter would have offered more than Knibbs last night.
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AFKABartram said:Personally I feel Gillesphey has been getting some very OTT comments on the penalty. You’d think he had made a career defining howler from some of the comments. I don’t think Bell barely registered a comment for his similar / worse one at Leicester with Fatawu that could have gone on to cost us the game.
Ipswich proved all through the game they were extremely ‘professional’ in knowing how to win free kicks. Probably the most this season. The guy cross Gillesphey deliberately seeking contact then instantly kicked one foot against the next. It’s easy in hindsight saying Gillesphey should have gone nowhere near, but if he hadn’t and they went on to score from it he would have got rinsed for that as well.
Can we call this what it really is?
Cheating.
I hate it.
I hate it when the oppo does it (obviously) and I hate it even more when our players do it because then the moral high ground becomes more of a molehill.
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It's only 2½ hours earlier than normal - it's not like our fixture has been brought forward by a couple of days which would really hamper recovery and training.ross1 said:
Yes but it is the early kick off Saturday after playing Wednesday that I am moaning aboutBriston_Addick said:
All midweek matches (apart from the bizarrely-labelled "displaced 3pm Saturday matches we had over Christmas/New Year) are shown live on Sky in some way. The issue is the splitting of the twelve fixtures across Tuesday and Wednesday so that Sky have games to show both days.ross1 said:Sky does not help us by making us play Wednesday night instead of Tuesday so we could be live and then put us on Saturday midday. No chance for players to recover properly especially those with slight injuries
Clubs are supposed to have an equal split of Tuesday and Wednesday games which is what happened in the original fixture list - and this was one of our Wednesdays.
(Unless, of course, you're concerned about my own travel plans in which case carry you on!
It'll be leaving home about 6:55am to pick up grandson for the 3+ hour drive down - with a stop for breakfast - and hopefully be parked OK) 5 -
He was off to get his Ed Sheeran album signed.The Equaliser said:
He looked very pleased with himself as he walked off at full timeWSS said:You're assuming the ref had a clue last night.6 -
Would 100% agree as he totally fucked up on who we signed (Albeit possibly wage structure meant we may have missed out on some of his intended targets) but who else is there to make those decisions on who we are signing ?The Red Robin said:
Jones shouldn’t be given that much influence again.LittleAddick said:
Not like we just got one signing wrong though is it? We wasted the thick end of £10 million.ForeverAddickted said:
Show me a team that gets every signing right each summer?AberystwythAddick said:
My point is we signed apter. Then let him out on loanForeverAddickted said:
If only my Auntie had balls, she'd be my UncleAberystwythAddick said:
If only we had signed a winger in the summer…sammy391 said:
A complete lack of anyone from the bench to play wide/winger and bomb along was poor.ForeverAddickted said:sammy391 said:Diabolical substitutions, and lack of energy from the bench…
NJ at fault.
extremely poor. We rely on other teams yet againSo what were the correct Substitutions...Am seeing this a lot already, but who do you replace TC with, to match his pace and energy at HT?The lack of energy has to be down to the individual coming on, rather than Jones... The fact that grown adults on here, find a way to excuse Footballers from understanding what they themselves need to do, when they become involved is just ludicrous... Do you think Jones needs to stand outside the loo as well going: "Right you see that white paper... you use that to wipe your arse" seeing they need such help to cope in life?Not sure if TC was injured, but don’t think he should have been taken off. Equally don’t think kelman for dykes was wise, but hardly a shock anymore.A sub bench of OAP Berry, a freshly fit Godden, a freshly fit knibbs , and then target man dykes has given us only one dimension from the bench.Would have loved to have had Fullah to bring on0 -
Ronnie?charltonbob said:who else is there to make those decisions on who we are signing ?2 -
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Gillesphey literally grabbed his shoulder and yanked him over.AFKABartram said:Personally I feel Gillesphey has been getting some very OTT comments on the penalty. You’d think he had made a career defining howler from some of the comments. I don’t think Bell barely registered a comment for his similar / worse one at Leicester with Fatawu that could have gone on to cost us the game.
Ipswich proved all through the game they were extremely ‘professional’ in knowing how to win free kicks. Probably the most this season. The guy cross Gillesphey deliberately seeking contact then instantly kicked one foot against the next. It’s easy in hindsight saying Gillesphey should have gone nowhere near, but if he hadn’t and they went on to score from it he would have got rinsed for that as well.2 -
When you put it like that it’s even more fucking idiotic than I thought, he’s usually too slow to get his hands on anyone!!Dazzler21 said:
Gillesphey literally grabbed his shoulder and yanked him over.AFKABartram said:Personally I feel Gillesphey has been getting some very OTT comments on the penalty. You’d think he had made a career defining howler from some of the comments. I don’t think Bell barely registered a comment for his similar / worse one at Leicester with Fatawu that could have gone on to cost us the game.
Ipswich proved all through the game they were extremely ‘professional’ in knowing how to win free kicks. Probably the most this season. The guy cross Gillesphey deliberately seeking contact then instantly kicked one foot against the next. It’s easy in hindsight saying Gillesphey should have gone nowhere near, but if he hadn’t and they went on to score from it he would have got rinsed for that as well.3 -
He's decent enough in League 1, but simply doesn't have the pace or ability at this level. He's been key in us losing points several times this season. He's probably also won us some points, but I just can't be bothered these days to look into the stats that much.Sword65pf said:
When you put it like that it’s even more fucking idiotic than I thought, he’s usually too slow to get his hands on anyone!!Dazzler21 said:
Gillesphey literally grabbed his shoulder and yanked him over.AFKABartram said:Personally I feel Gillesphey has been getting some very OTT comments on the penalty. You’d think he had made a career defining howler from some of the comments. I don’t think Bell barely registered a comment for his similar / worse one at Leicester with Fatawu that could have gone on to cost us the game.
Ipswich proved all through the game they were extremely ‘professional’ in knowing how to win free kicks. Probably the most this season. The guy cross Gillesphey deliberately seeking contact then instantly kicked one foot against the next. It’s easy in hindsight saying Gillesphey should have gone nowhere near, but if he hadn’t and they went on to score from it he would have got rinsed for that as well.3 -
Lot of worry crept onto this board today from posters previously convinced we were staying up, and all seems to stem from one loss against Ipswich, who are second in the Championship.
What did people genuinely expect?10 -
Yes unfortunately there have been more negatives than positives to his season, at home to Blackburn being his highlight.Dazzler21 said:
He's decent enough in League 1, but simply doesn't have the pace or ability at this level. He's been key in us losing points several times this season. He's probably also won us some points, but I just can't be bothered these days to look into the stats that much.Sword65pf said:
When you put it like that it’s even more fucking idiotic than I thought, he’s usually too slow to get his hands on anyone!!Dazzler21 said:
Gillesphey literally grabbed his shoulder and yanked him over.AFKABartram said:Personally I feel Gillesphey has been getting some very OTT comments on the penalty. You’d think he had made a career defining howler from some of the comments. I don’t think Bell barely registered a comment for his similar / worse one at Leicester with Fatawu that could have gone on to cost us the game.
Ipswich proved all through the game they were extremely ‘professional’ in knowing how to win free kicks. Probably the most this season. The guy cross Gillesphey deliberately seeking contact then instantly kicked one foot against the next. It’s easy in hindsight saying Gillesphey should have gone nowhere near, but if he hadn’t and they went on to score from it he would have got rinsed for that as well.0 -
A shot on goal at home in the 2nd half🤷🏻♂️Athletico Charlton said:Lot of worry crept onto this board today from posters previously convinced we were staying up, and all seems to stem from one loss against Ipswich, who are second in the Championship.
What did people genuinely expect?4 -
I think Blackburn's away win against Sheff Utd didn't help either, and leaves us one step ahead of the drop in 21st...Athletico Charlton said:Lot of worry crept onto this board today from posters previously convinced we were staying up, and all seems to stem from one loss against Ipswich, who are second in the Championship.
What did people genuinely expect?2 -
I honestly think some of our players knew they were off at the end of the season and have eased off. I reckoned NJ has even eased off as he thought we had enough points on the board.DamoNorthStand said:ns9 said:
100% this. Millwall will likely make wholesale changes and Oxford will need to win. If we don’t settle it on Saturday then we are in a horrible predicamentBig C said:
They might not need to get anything last day. If Middlesbrough don't win Saturday, and Ipswich beat West Brom Saturday and then their game in hand against Southampton Tuesday, then Ipswich will be guaranteed 2nd and Millwall guaranteed 3rd going into the last day (Ipswich will be too far clear on GD and Millwall wouldn't be able to be caught).ForeverAddickted said:IR94 said:If Ipswich win their game in hand and the other, then the last game of the season will be a nothing match for Millwall, as they won't be able to better their goal difference. We are in trouble.Millwall are only three points ahead of Southampton and Middlesbrough, both of whom have better Goal DifferenceThey're going to want to beat Leicester, and then get a result against Oxford to surely cement 3rd at the very least?
Millwall will rest their entire first team against Oxford on the last day in that scenario you'd think.
We need to get the point Saturday, otherwise we're in trouble.This really sums up where my minds been for weeks. It feels like we have been sleepwalking into this situation with the players on the beach post Boro.
It just feels like the whole club was in safe mode whilst the others around us were fighting.
And we haven’t been able to readjust to a relegation battle2 -
It seems the only person who doesn't see that is Nathan Fucking Jonesllama_child_21cws said:How many more times has Bell got to get injured playing wing back, its pointless playing him there as he can only last 10 mins.3 -
I think Clarke back will be much needed. He’s a strong defender and will help stabilize the right side. Hope Ramsay can return otherwise I’d go for the same back 3 as we had last night. Chambers back in at LWB and Coady, Doc and Carey to start in midfield with Dykes and Kelman up top. If Godden and TC are injured we’re pretty screwed for attacking options when Dykes and Kelman run out of legs. I’d have Fevrier at sub purely on the basis he could come on later and help inject a bit of pace.EugenesAxe said:
Burke and Gillesphey on either side, crikey.peterreeves said:If Bell, TC and Godden are out on Saturday are we thinking Burke and Gilly playing with Clarke and Chambers in front and Jones with Collins
Terrifying if Burke and Gilly play but do we have any other options?
I'm presuming midfield will be Doc, Cov Carey and Fev with Kelman and Dykes up front....
I think theres no point in defending we need to bust a gut from the word go...
Can only hope TC is able to play a part, otherwise we’re gambling on something from a Fullah.
I expect Godden to miss out completely
It’s going to be a big ask2 -
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Thought I was the only one, looked like he just threw himself to the floor to me. Difficult for the ref but if you're not 100% sure you shouldn't be giving itJamesSeed said:Horrible match. Ipswich are a league above us in terms of both budget and quality, admittedly, but they injured our two best attacking threats with poor challenges - and we desperately need them fit to stay up.They also had a player booked for simulation. One camera angle showed that the penalty was also simulation. Macca foolishly laid a hand on him, but not enough to anything like bring him down; but, just like Jack Clarke, it looked on the replay that he did the old ‘stiff leg’ trick. I’d have to see it again to be sure, but I think VAR would have overruled it and given him a booking.Naive of Macca though, either way.
Can’t stand Ipswich. Hope they stay down.
I don't think Oxford have anything like enough to win both their remaining matches, but with all the injuries I’m not expecting us to even pinch a draw from ours. It’s very worrying that we’ll probably have to rely on another team not winning to stay up.0 -
Absoute rubbish what is being said about Macca. Yes he was caught the wrong side for the penalty. Bell, Mannion, Kaminski, Ramsey have all made errors that have led to goals in games and has indeed Lloyd Jones but I don't see the pelters aimed at them. He is consistantly the better passer of a ball than all the defenders and midfield. The frustration for me is not such mistakes that players make as they are expected in football but the style that we constantly play. We will never win a game 4 - 3 but consistently lose 1 -2. The angst of supporters should be against NJ who sets up to defend first and foremost.Firstly last night how many shots on goal by our team ? Probably 2 maybe 3 so we are always on the back foot. One mistake costs us and whilst teams should try to eradicate them you are never going to overcome one if the style you play doesn't allow.Sword65pf said:
Yes unfortunately there have been more negatives than positives to his season, at home to Blackburn being his highlight.Dazzler21 said:
He's decent enough in League 1, but simply doesn't have the pace or ability at this level. He's been key in us losing points several times this season. He's probably also won us some points, but I just can't be bothered these days to look into the stats that much.Sword65pf said:
When you put it like that it’s even more fucking idiotic than I thought, he’s usually too slow to get his hands on anyone!!Dazzler21 said:
Gillesphey literally grabbed his shoulder and yanked him over.AFKABartram said:Personally I feel Gillesphey has been getting some very OTT comments on the penalty. You’d think he had made a career defining howler from some of the comments. I don’t think Bell barely registered a comment for his similar / worse one at Leicester with Fatawu that could have gone on to cost us the game.
Ipswich proved all through the game they were extremely ‘professional’ in knowing how to win free kicks. Probably the most this season. The guy cross Gillesphey deliberately seeking contact then instantly kicked one foot against the next. It’s easy in hindsight saying Gillesphey should have gone nowhere near, but if he hadn’t and they went on to score from it he would have got rinsed for that as well.1 -
Is Leaburn injured? I have not read anything about him0
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Everytime our game is on Sky, our attendance is lower? I presume our early kick off on Saturday will be on Sky as well so be lucky to get 15,000ct_addick said:Lame looking attendance as well…I know midweek games are tough but would expect fans to show up for a big game…let’s hope they show up and support the team Saturday0 -
You would keep and be starting him in the championship then?Treacey1969 said:
Absoute rubbish what is being said about Macca. Yes he was caught the wrong side for the penalty. Bell, Mannion, Kaminski, Ramsey have all made errors that have led to goals in games and has indeed Lloyd Jones but I don't see the pelters aimed at them. He is consistantly the better passer of a ball than all the defenders and midfield. The frustration for me is not such mistakes that players make as they are expected in football but the style that we constantly play. We will never win a game 4 - 3 but consistently lose 1 -2. The angst of supporters should be against NJ who sets up to defend first and foremost.Firstly last night how many shots on goal by our team ? Probably 2 maybe 3 so we are always on the back foot. One mistake costs us and whilst teams should try to eradicate them you are never going to overcome one if the style you play doesn't allow.Sword65pf said:
Yes unfortunately there have been more negatives than positives to his season, at home to Blackburn being his highlight.Dazzler21 said:
He's decent enough in League 1, but simply doesn't have the pace or ability at this level. He's been key in us losing points several times this season. He's probably also won us some points, but I just can't be bothered these days to look into the stats that much.Sword65pf said:
When you put it like that it’s even more fucking idiotic than I thought, he’s usually too slow to get his hands on anyone!!Dazzler21 said:
Gillesphey literally grabbed his shoulder and yanked him over.AFKABartram said:Personally I feel Gillesphey has been getting some very OTT comments on the penalty. You’d think he had made a career defining howler from some of the comments. I don’t think Bell barely registered a comment for his similar / worse one at Leicester with Fatawu that could have gone on to cost us the game.
Ipswich proved all through the game they were extremely ‘professional’ in knowing how to win free kicks. Probably the most this season. The guy cross Gillesphey deliberately seeking contact then instantly kicked one foot against the next. It’s easy in hindsight saying Gillesphey should have gone nowhere near, but if he hadn’t and they went on to score from it he would have got rinsed for that as well.1 -
Middlesboro v Watford is on Sky Sports +, no sign of us being on...CharltonManor1966 said:
Everytime our game is on Sky, our attendance is lower? I presume our early kick off on Saturday will be on Sky as well so be lucky to get 15,000ct_addick said:Lame looking attendance as well…I know midweek games are tough but would expect fans to show up for a big game…let’s hope they show up and support the team Saturday0 -
And Portsmouth at home, West Brom away, Oxford away, Norwich away, etc etc. All of the 'key' games we should be looking at getting wins from are the ones where we haven't turned up, and have been awful.Elthamaddick said:
if we'd gone into the Sheff Wed game with the pressing and intensity we showed in the first 30 mins last night we'd be out of sighteastterrace6168 said:Looking towards our two remaining matches with Hull and Swansea, we need to go into them looking to win, and if we go with the intensity of yesterday then we should be fine, no use going for a draw because we will lose like that, just sitting back and soaking up pressure you can only do for so long before you crack, give a high caliber performance Saturday and there's no reason why we shouldn't be clear come 2.30, and we can all relax for the Swansea game...
Yet we consistently put in much better, intense pressing performances against the better sides where we ultimately lose out on a lack of quality, not effort (yesterday being another example). So, so frustrating.3 -
More importantly, his long throws are way better than anyone else's. Several times we tried long throws last night, and especially before Carey came on, they were hopeless.cabbles said:
I think Clarke back will be much needed. He’s a strong defender and will help stabilize the right side.EugenesAxe said:
Burke and Gillesphey on either side, crikey.peterreeves said:If Bell, TC and Godden are out on Saturday are we thinking Burke and Gilly playing with Clarke and Chambers in front and Jones with Collins
Terrifying if Burke and Gilly play but do we have any other options?
I'm presuming midfield will be Doc, Cov Carey and Fev with Kelman and Dykes up front....
I think theres no point in defending we need to bust a gut from the word go...
When we are having a hoofball half, Clarke's long throws are one of our main attacking weapons at the moment...1 -
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Agreed the second half was just shocking all round. Do think that's mainly about TC coming off but you need to have some kind of plan B and we looked utterly hopeless.golfaddick said:
I wouldn't mind players not putting away chances if we were creating them in the first place. How many chances did we have yesterday ? Apart from the goal I dont think we really created anything else. Fevrier had a shot in the 1st half that went wide and maybe a couple of blocked shots in & around their box.....but 2nd half practically zilch.PeaksAndValleys said:Like others surprised how much that loss hurts given it was always going to be the least likely fixture to pick up points. But even knowing that, when you go from need a point in three games to need a point in two games, it feels so nervy. Add to that the manner of the loss - great start, hampered by injuries, then giving away the world's stupidest pen - plus the frustration at how we've played in recent easier games, and it's just so gutting.
My big concerns for the run in are:
- it looks like we've lost three of our best players at the worst time. After Jones I'd say Bell, Godden and TC are probably the players I'd least want injured.
- the order of the fixtures - we have the harder of our two games first, without knowing if Oxford get what they need, and Oxford have SW first and are most likely to beat them. That brings nerves into it so much more both for Saturday and increasing the chance it goes to the final day, which is a huge problem because...
- we have completely lost our nerve. They look terrified and I think that's why we can't get a result over the line lately, someone panics and gifts them a goal, no one can put away chances (admittedly not entirely new), and we have even less calmness and quality on the ball than usual when chasing - it's hit and hope so early.
I still think we'll get there, maybe just thanks to Oxford dropping points, but this is so unpleasant now
In the first half we didn't have loads but had a few, in particular the Fevs and CK chances they both chose to shoot rather than pull back to well placed team mates. Was more thinking overall though, in recent games we've had the chances to put the games to bed or salvage a point and haven't taken them1
