Carabao Cup 26-27 (Tottenham away ole ole)
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Hope we make a better account of ourselves tomorrow than Birmingham are tonight!1
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There is about to be a penalty shoot out at Stoke v Hull 1-1 FT0
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Game I chose to watch ...... At least there will be something worth it now...soapboxsam said:There is about to be a penalty shoot out at Stoke v Hull 1-1 FT0 -
FishCostaFortune said:Hope we make a better account of ourselves tomorrow than Birmingham are tonight!
Championship Watford, Saints and Birmingham have all been thrashed at home tonight.0 -
Dillon Phillips with a save in the shoot out3
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objectivecafc said:
Game I chose to watch ...... At least there will be something worth it now...soapboxsam said:There is about to be a penalty shoot out at Stoke v Hull 1-1 FT
George Hirst with a poor penalty and Dillon Phillips finally manages to save a pen getting a hand to two others attempts.
5-4 Hull with just the Hirst miss for his new club Stoke.
Liam Miller scored 1 of the pens for Hull.0 -
That Birmingham scoreline is a real shocker, as it's not as if their team was full of kids0
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Birmingham losing 1-6 at home to Brentford is objectively very funny2
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Surely got to finally be the end for Chris Davies.Callumcafc said:Birmingham losing 1-6 at home to Brentford is objectively very funny1 -
Extremely impressed with the job Keith Andrews has done there. When Thomas Frank left and they lost a lot of players many thought they would struggle. They're arguably a better team now.Callumcafc said:Birmingham losing 1-6 at home to Brentford is objectively very funny8 -
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I hope not. It's nice to see them keep underperformingBalladMan said:
Surely got to finally be the end for Chris Davies.Callumcafc said:Birmingham losing 1-6 at home to Brentford is objectively very funny4 -
Just been reading there forum and seems like most of their fans wanted him out last year.BalladMan said:
Surely got to finally be the end for Chris Davies.Callumcafc said:Birmingham losing 1-6 at home to Brentford is objectively very funny1 -
Davies I thought would go at the end of last season. Spent absolute fortunes and doesn't seem to have a plan B.2
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Draw for the next round (not of our concern):
Crystal Palace v Middlesbrough
Manchester United v Brighton
Manchester City v Norwich
Sunderland v Hull
Ipswich v Arsenal
Coventry v Aston Villa
Bournemouth v Lincoln
Liverpool v Tottenham
Chelsea/Luton v Leeds
Millwall v Newcastle
Fleetwood v Sheffield United
Everton v Wolves
Leyton Orient v Bradford
Reading v Brentford
Peterborough v Barnsley
West Ham v Fulham/AFC Wimbledon
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Would’ve been Liverpool away if we had managed to spring a surprise then.
Usually the balls in League Cup draws are reorganised in alphabetical order so doesn’t usually work like that but because our tie wasn’t decided until just before the draw, we would’ve been ball no. 29 even if we had won (rather than slotting between Brighton and Coventry to be ball no. 12).1 -
Luton drawing 0-0 at Chelsea at HT. A decent Chelsea team too, including Palmer and Rogers.0
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This item appeared in today's Mirror, written by Andy Dunn, quite depressing really
.News Reporter
YES, it was 60 years ago. Yes, football was a little different back then. But one of my all-time favourite statistics comes from the 1965-66 season, which ended with Bill Shankly’s Liverpool winning the First Division.
The Reds also reached the final of the European Cup Winners’ Cup, where they were beaten 2-1 in extra-time by Borussia Dortmund, at Hampden Park on May 6.
They might have been a bit tired.
In that entire season, Liverpool played 53 matches and Shankly used only 14 players.
Sure, different times, and all that but it is still worth noting an era when managers did not feel compelled – or able – to make wholesale changes for certain games.
For the Carabao Cup tie against Tottenham Hotspur on Wednesday, Nathan Jones made 10 changes to the Charlton Athletic side that won at West Ham United last Saturday.
His team was thrashed 5-1. Spurs had been hammered in their opening game of the Premier League season.
Jones cited the demands of the Championship as one of the reasons why he made so many changes. The Championship season is two games old, for goodness’ sake.
But Jones, whose managerial career has been mixed, also admitted he did not approach the fixture with a great deal of hope.
“We are not going to win this competition,” he said after the defeat at Spurs. “Were we going to win tonight? Was an upset on the cards? It’s very hard to beat Premier League sides now.”
It certainly is. Especially when you send out your reserves.
Jones is far from an outlier when it comes to English Football League managers fielding second- string players in this competition.
On the same night Charlton were thumped by Spurs, Everton cruised past a Preston team whose manager Paul Heckingbottom had made seven changes to his previous line-up.
It has become the norm. But this is the EFL’s property. This should be a flagship competition.
Instead, it is littered with EFL managers running up the white flag.
No, Charlton were almost certainly not going to win the competition but they had a chance of beating Spurs. Instead, they merely contributed to the general mediocrity of this latest round of Carabao Cup fixtures.
Championship and lower division managers KNOW that opposing Premier League managers will make significant changes.
So why not try and capitalise? Keith Andrews made eight changes for the trip to Birmingham City but Chris Davies made six of his own and saw his team battered 6-1 by Brentford.
Davies felt compelled to apologise to supporters. Rightly so.
Charlton’s Jones is right when he says it is very hard to beat Premier League sides. And the fact the last 13 editions of the EFL Cup have been shared between five clubs – Man City, Chelsea, Newcastle United, Liverpool and Man United – tells you something.
It tells you the big question related to the Carabao Cup is not about who is going to win it. It is what is the point?
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And we’ll never get an apology from Jones0
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Just the 10 changes for Lincoln against Bournemouth today.0
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Big crowd at the Den tonight for their 5 year shot at a premier league team
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Macaulay Gillesphey felt sorry for beating Leyton Orient in the playoffs with his free kick so scored an own goal for them tonight.
Bradford still ran out 3-1 winners0 -
14,698 apparently.Southendaddick said:Big crowd at the Den tonight for their 5 year shot at a premier league team
Clearly expected a bigger take up from home fans though, as they only gave Newcastle 2k tickets when they'd have easily sold the whole end.0
