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Spain v Argentina, world cup final 2026

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  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 8,884
    Don’t think we beat that Spain team if we had gotten past the Argies so I’m less upset than I would’ve been.

    England are VERY close but we still need a spot of luck or the team needs to make the final step forward in their collective abilities to truly be the best team in the world and deserve to win these tournaments.

    Hopefully hosting in 2028 can put us over the edge, it almost did in 2021.
    i agree with some of that but not all - we (tuchell) shot ourselves in the foot by having nothing on the counter attack against the cheats - we may still have lost but i think not - we probably would have lost to spain however 
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 24,102
    Spain give a guard of honour to Argentina for them to go up for their medals.

    Argentina's response?



    Classless to the end.
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 12,987
    Laddick01 said:
    Don’t think we beat that Spain team if we had gotten past the Argies so I’m less upset than I would’ve been.

    England are VERY close but we still need a spot of luck or the team needs to make the final step forward in their collective abilities to truly be the best team in the world and deserve to win these tournaments.

    Hopefully hosting in 2028 can put us over the edge, it almost did in 2021.
    I agree with all of that really.

    We need a little more quality in a couple of areas and I hope that emerges before the Euros. With Ngumoha and Dowman coming through those wing positions will get much needed quality. 

    2027 Nations League games will be great practice against Spain.

    I think it’s fair to say that England are definitely one of the best 4 sides in the world right now.
    I still think Cole Palmer has a big part to play too 
  • Afternoon Delight
    Afternoon Delight Posts: 1,116
    Bad couple of days for Argentina, lost the rugby, lost the football, lost their flag.....
  • KBslittlesis
    KBslittlesis Posts: 9,238
    The right result.
    Well done Spain.

    😎
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 5,038
    Is there a more scummy football team than Argentina? now little Lionel is done I hope they disappear into obscurity.
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 28,021
    Laddick01 said:
    Don’t think we beat that Spain team if we had gotten past the Argies so I’m less upset than I would’ve been.

    England are VERY close but we still need a spot of luck or the team needs to make the final step forward in their collective abilities to truly be the best team in the world and deserve to win these tournaments.

    Hopefully hosting in 2028 can put us over the edge, it almost did in 2021.
    I agree with all of that really.

    We need a little more quality in a couple of areas and I hope that emerges before the Euros. With Ngumoha and Dowman coming through those wing positions will get much needed quality. 

    2027 Nations League games will be great practice against Spain.

    I think it’s fair to say that England are definitely one of the best 4 sides in the world right now.
    I still think Cole Palmer has a big part to play too 
    This summer off will help him massively. 

    not been fully fit all year 
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 28,021
    Couldn’t face watching the Argies winning so this morning we booked tickets for Bruno Mars at Wembley

    was extra time when we got on to the tube and big cheer went up when Spain scored  


    fuck the cheating scummy Argies and their apologists 
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,886
    scum, fuck em filthy cnuts
  • Cloudworm
    Cloudworm Posts: 987
    I wonder if the pro Spain stuff on here will survive when the Gibraltar stuff starts.

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  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 37,634
    Laddick01 said:
    Let’s say Fernandez and Romero earn 200k a week. They’d pay an estimated 9 million in income tax between them each year.

    That 9m is around 15% of the amount the UK use to safeguard the Falklands annually.

    Such a funny stat.
    Fernandez and Romero probably both earn 200k a week each.

    Add in Macallister, Martinez, Senesi who also play here and it's probably around 800k a week combined.
  • Major
    Major Posts: 1,130
    edited July 20
    Cloudworm said:
    I wonder if the pro Spain stuff on here will survive when the Gibraltar stuff starts.
    Doofus. It is anti Argentina stuff. As they deserve. Wise up.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 37,634
    Awful from Argentina, their tactics, the constant fouling, the post-game fighting. Totally embarrassed themselves. Not even sure what their game plan was, although it looked like they basically turned up to play for penalties.

    Personally i don't think we'd have beaten that Spain team, they're a level above, but it'll be interesting to see how we do in the Nations league.

    Rodri at 30 and coming off an ACL is still unbelievable. If Real Madrid don't sign him this summer then City's midfield pivot of him and Anderson is going to be very hard for PL teams to break down next season.
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 16,685
    MrWalker said:
    A bit cruel likening FIFA and Trump to a bunch of 1980s Muppets
    Very rude to the muppets. 
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 16,685
    Is there a more scummy football team than Argentina? now little Lionel is done I hope they disappear into obscurity.
    I was pleased for him they won last time, pleased for the world of football they lost, and showed what scum they are, this time.  Alf Ramsey was right in ‘66. 
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 16,685
    Cloudworm said:
    I wonder if the pro Spain stuff on here will survive when the Gibraltar stuff starts.
    It’s ABA, “Anybody but Argentina”. 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 10,460
    edited July 20
    What's the chances Enzo doesn't play another game over here and cries off to Real Madrid because he can't handle the chants he's deservedly going to get. 

    Also Messi might be a great player but he did nothing about the racist songs about France a couple of years back and nothing about spending this entire tournament being the most dislikeable team at the tournament. 
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 37,634
    MarcusH26 said:
    What's the chances Enzo doesn't play another game over here and cries off to Real Madrid because he can't handle the chants he's deservedly going to get. 

    Also Messi might be a great player but he did nothing about the racist songs about France a couple of years back and nothing about spending this entire tournament being the most dislikeable team at the tournament. 
    Last i saw, Alonso said he wanted to keep him.

    Madrid don't really need him (who would he play instead of?), and if we assume he'd only want to move to Spain then i'm not sure Atletico/Barca can afford the fee Chelsea would want.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 10,460
    MarcusH26 said:
    What's the chances Enzo doesn't play another game over here and cries off to Real Madrid because he can't handle the chants he's deservedly going to get. 

    Also Messi might be a great player but he did nothing about the racist songs about France a couple of years back and nothing about spending this entire tournament being the most dislikeable team at the tournament. 
    Last i saw, Alonso said he wanted to keep him.

    Madrid don't really need him (who would he play instead of?), and if we assume he'd only want to move to Spain then i'm not sure Atletico/Barca can afford the fee Chelsea would want.
    Shame! 
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 30,862
    What has last night’s game and WW2 got in common?


    The losers end up in Argentina.

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  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 19,425
    Argentina ended up like the 1990 team, going in as champions off the back of playing well the tournament before, and ended up being absolute scum defending the trophy 
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 48,396
    edited July 20
    I think we would have done Argentina a favour if we beat them in the semi as they just got an opportunity to show the World how classless they are. I think most respectable nations, including us, would not put up with their antics. Yes they have some great players but you have to have standards. FIFA must take some of the blame as it appointed refs who let them get away with it. The constant fouling didn't work against England or Spain but it should have been stamped on. As should the disgusting behaviour of Paraguay. FIFA has to accept it is a problem and all it has to do is apply it's rules fairly and laws appropriately and it will fix it. But for some reason it doesn't.

    I think Messi is usually an exception but his antics trying to get a Spain player sent of was horrible to watch. I mean I expect it of others but not him.
  • AllHailTheHen
    AllHailTheHen Posts: 3,283
    The good thing about last night is that showed people that England supporters weren't whining about Argentina's tactics because we lost. They showed themselves up to be anti-football scumbags on the biggest stage there is. Just gutted we didn't get more close ups of their players crying at the end!
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 24,109
    Cloudworm said:
    I wonder if the pro Spain stuff on here will survive when the Gibraltar stuff starts.

    I believe we will be stuck between a rock and a hard place.
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,788
    Obviously there’s a bit of animosity to them from us after the semi defeat and our history, but taking our rivalry aside, surely they’ve got to be up there as the most hated nation in world football?  Messi aside they have no players that are good to watch (Fernandez is a good player but a rat).  That team last night even with Messi in looked awful and hopefully they’re in for a prolonged period of doing nothing 

    abhorrent team and mantra that runs in the blood of their national game 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 24,109
    edited July 20
    Wanting Cucurella to do well last night was a 1st for me.
    The hairy one had a great tournament and the left wing back role continues to evolve as he goes inside and does many runs into central positions as well as out wide.

    38 matches unbeaten and only conceding 1 goal was no fluke and the 0-0 draw against Cape Verde in their 1st match made many of us discount Spain from lifting the trophy.

    Despite not being as clinical as England and many others top sides their control of the football and their game plan were superior to all the other sides and they were deserved winners without having too many super stars other than Rodri who was back to his imperious self and Lamine Yamal who has shown enough for Barcelona to show he is heir apparent to being top trumps one day in international football.
    Cubarsi, Pedri and Olmo has star dust and if they ever find a top finisher again they will be hard to beat in the Euros which they already are !

  • Argentina were a disgrace last night - no attempt to play football. Complete lack of ambition.

    Certainly wasn't the 'beautiful game' last night.

    I wish Spain had taken more of their numerous chances.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 37,634
    cabbles said:
    Obviously there’s a bit of animosity to them from us after the semi defeat and our history, but taking our rivalry aside, surely they’ve got to be up there as the most hated nation in world football?  Messi aside they have no players that are good to watch (Fernandez is a good player but a rat).  That team last night even with Messi in looked awful and hopefully they’re in for a prolonged period of doing nothing 

    abhorrent team and mantra that runs in the blood of their national game 
    They're an average team who rode their luck throughout the entire knockout stage.

    Cape Verde - taken to extra time
    Egypt - should've lost
    Switzerland - probably would've lost if Embolo hadn't stupidly dived
    England - should've lost but we turned into clowns after scoring
    Spain - finally found out

    Now Messi is expected to retire, they're surely in for a period of rebuilding and I wouldn't be surprised if some of their players who are the wrong side of 30 realise this and decide to retire. Martinez, Otamendi, Paredes, De Paul and Tagliafico are all 32+. 
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 12,987
    Has anyone seen the clip of Scaloni leaving the news conference in tears.

    This is absolutely glorious, wonderful stuff.

    What a difference a few days makes. All is well in the world again.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 28,389
    You’d hope FIFA dish out some bans to Parades and co. for the post-match violence.