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West Ham [A] Tickets (3,001 sold out)

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  • JoshrewCAFC
    JoshrewCAFC Posts: 949
    So there were still several hundred available when it went to VG mark (phase 7), and they all went in about 15 mins.

    It’s never going to be perfect for sell outs, but I think this is fair and it could be a lot worse system. 
    It is an extremely fair system until you get to Phase 7. Someone paying £60 for half a year of Valley Gold membership being ahead of thousands of fans who have spent £1,000+ over two seasons is mind-blowing.
    The trouble with West Ham being the first away game as well is that you only have one season's worth of ticket history. I'm on 565 pts being a season ticket holder, going to Chelsea, 50 ST bonus pts and 5 out of 23 possible away games (Bristol City, Hull, Coventry, Southampton, Sheff Weds) and this got trumped by 5 pts for phase 7

    I find it mildly embarrassing my VG membership is worth more than my efforts last season especially given I didn't go to any local away games but equally I guess VG also needs to be able to offer the opportunity to get tickets, of which i've used to get my tickets today and floating it further down the order may have meant missing out on tickets.

    I always thought just immediately wiping out the season before's points was always a bit harsh, maybe a rolling two year's history would be good to have but then we all know the rules and it's the same for everyone.
    I believe it is a rolling 2 year system. That's what it looks like based on my points anyway!
  • MartinCAFC
    MartinCAFC Posts: 3,460
    So there were still several hundred available when it went to VG mark (phase 7), and they all went in about 15 mins.

    It’s never going to be perfect for sell outs, but I think this is fair and it could be a lot worse system. 
    It is an extremely fair system until you get to Phase 7. Someone paying £60 for half a year of Valley Gold membership being ahead of thousands of fans who have spent £1,000+ over two seasons is mind-blowing.
    The trouble with West Ham being the first away game as well is that you only have one season's worth of ticket history. I'm on 565 pts being a season ticket holder, going to Chelsea, 50 ST bonus pts and 5 out of 23 possible away games (Bristol City, Hull, Coventry, Southampton, Sheff Weds) and this got trumped by 5 pts for phase 7

    I find it mildly embarrassing my VG membership is worth more than my efforts last season especially given I didn't go to any local away games but equally I guess VG also needs to be able to offer the opportunity to get tickets, of which i've used to get my tickets today and floating it further down the order may have meant missing out on tickets.

    I always thought just immediately wiping out the season before's points was always a bit harsh, maybe a rolling two year's history would be good to have but then we all know the rules and it's the same for everyone.
    I believe it is a rolling 2 year system. That's what it looks like based on my points anyway!
    It's a complete reset so the 2 years being counted is now only last season and this season - of which no away points have been able to have been generated yet. I must have gone to about 7 or 8 aways in the promotion season but those points are all wiped now.
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 30,892
    So there were still several hundred available when it went to VG mark (phase 7), and they all went in about 15 mins.

    It’s never going to be perfect for sell outs, but I think this is fair and it could be a lot worse system. 
    It is an extremely fair system until you get to Phase 7. Someone paying £60 for half a year of Valley Gold membership being ahead of thousands of fans who have spent £1,000+ over two seasons is mind-blowing.
    The trouble with West Ham being the first away game as well is that you only have one season's worth of ticket history. I'm on 565 pts being a season ticket holder, going to Chelsea, 50 ST bonus pts and 5 out of 23 possible away games (Bristol City, Hull, Coventry, Southampton, Sheff Weds) and this got trumped by 5 pts for phase 7

    I find it mildly embarrassing my VG membership is worth more than my efforts last season especially given I didn't go to any local away games but equally I guess VG also needs to be able to offer the opportunity to get tickets, of which i've used to get my tickets today and floating it further down the order may have meant missing out on tickets.

    I always thought just immediately wiping out the season before's points was always a bit harsh, maybe a rolling two year's history would be good to have but then we all know the rules and it's the same for everyone.
    I believe it is a rolling 2 year system. That's what it looks like based on my points anyway!
    Not this season, looking at my points, it only includes last season.
  • JoshrewCAFC
    JoshrewCAFC Posts: 949
    So there were still several hundred available when it went to VG mark (phase 7), and they all went in about 15 mins.

    It’s never going to be perfect for sell outs, but I think this is fair and it could be a lot worse system. 
    It is an extremely fair system until you get to Phase 7. Someone paying £60 for half a year of Valley Gold membership being ahead of thousands of fans who have spent £1,000+ over two seasons is mind-blowing.
    If they spent thousands then they'd have more loyalty points to buy in earlier phases
    Two years of season tickets in most areas of the ground would be just under £1000, if not more. That gets you 460 loyalty points, or 510 with the early bird bonus. Still beneath valley gold.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 72,816
    This is THE away game that everyone wanted to go to, it just happens to be the first one of the season .

    I suspect that West Brom and Stoke,  the next two, will go to general sale  :D
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 36,372
    I agree with others saying it should be 1 per person. 

    If it was a big Cup match at Old Trafford & we had 8k tickets (or whatever it was in 1994) then 2 per person is fine.

    For a local Derby, at a new ground, 1st away game of the season then imo 1 per person is fair. If it then goes onto general sale then 2 per person is reasonable.

  • letthegoodtimesroll
    letthegoodtimesroll Posts: 11,500
    edited August 6
    Without VG, there probably wouldn’t have been a club or team to get to this stage in the first place because all those youngsters coming through to the youth set up have collectively been filling a lot of positions on the team sheets. The only fans  this really impacts are those who clearly don’t really go to that many away games anyway  (otherwise they would have points to spare). 

    The real big issue is the club not saying how many fans qualify for each phase they set the points at that justifies having so many phases each time. It can’t be randomly set, surely, and there are some big issues coming as the season progresses. A bit of transparency now could save a lot of aggravation.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 33,117
    What’s the argument for two per person for a match such as this? 
  • Briston_Addick
    Briston_Addick Posts: 13,767
    This is THE away game that everyone wanted to go to, it just happens to be the first one of the season .

    I suspect that West Brom and Stoke,  the next two, will go to general sale  :D
    Helped considerably by Bob utilising his Presidential Suite at the Bet365 thus freeing up a shed-load of tickets for the great unwashed ...

    :wink:
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 30,892
    edited August 6
    There's a few tickets still available.

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  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 21,914
    This is THE away game that everyone wanted to go to, it just happens to be the first one of the season .

    I suspect that West Brom and Stoke,  the next two, will go to general sale  :D
    Helped considerably by Bob utilising his Presidential Suite at the Bet365 thus freeing up a shed-load of tickets for the great unwashed ...

    :wink:

    I aim to please.
  • AS1987
    AS1987 Posts: 174
    edited August 6
    se9addick said:
    What’s the argument for two per person for a match such as this? 
    Two is fair. There are a number of people who regularly travel with kids, where the kids don't have fan IDs. A lot of people also buy 2+ tickets without assigning the ticket to the others because they don't know how.

    It doesn't matter how much effort the club put into making this clear as people will always struggle. Just look at how many people couldn't work out how to buy their own season ticket seat for the Chelsea game last season, despite this being extremely obvious.

    The idea that there are loads of people buying 2+ tickets to bring along neutral mates or to sell for profit is preposterous. I'm not saying that it doesn't happen at all, but very few people do this.

    Notice how these tickets were selling in a reasonable manner until we reached the Valley Gold stage. This is where things get out of hand as there are loads of people that have had Valley Gold subscriptions set up for years, but no longer go to games on a regular basis and are only interested in the big matches. There are also a lot of season ticket holders with Valley Gold that seldom go to away matches and don't even bother turning up to half the home games they have paid for...
  • Er_Be_Ab_Pl_Wo_Wo_Ch
    Er_Be_Ab_Pl_Wo_Wo_Ch Posts: 2,295
    edited August 6
    That was absolutely brutal.

    Not sure of any actual figures but I reckon 1,750 tickets evaporated in no time.

    Had my group's tickets in the basket - all ready to go, all seats together - all kinds of issues with the website, had to release them.

    JUST about managed to salvage the situation before it sold out, but with single tickets.

    Most of the disabled and ambulant disabled tickets remain.
  • 2121
    2121 Posts: 1,684
    How many points do you get for buying an away ticket? 
  • Steven81
    Steven81 Posts: 1,501
    The only sensible option is for 3000 tickets to be sold one per person and if anyone talks to each other in the ground instant eviction imo.
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 19,436
    I had to wait till stage 8 for this, so looks like I’ve got the weekend off 
  • All of that hassle for an inevitable 5-0 defeat. We must all be mad 
  • Briston_Addick
    Briston_Addick Posts: 13,767
    2121 said:
    How many points do you get for buying an away ticket? 

  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 59,072
    Next time it's a likely to sell out match I'd suggest using the choose for me button, every time I tried to choose seats they were gone when trying to pay, hit choose from me, allocated them and checked out fine.

    Good tip 
  • ateamofcorygibbs
    ateamofcorygibbs Posts: 1,274
    Ffs was in a meeting all morning and brother was supposed to buy the tickets but logged in late and they were gone.

    Probably pointless to ask but if anyone has any spares, please message!

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  • boggzy
    boggzy Posts: 3,807
    Been looking at the view from my seat website. We all know it wasn't built as a football stadium, but the views are absolutely appalling both lower and upper tier. Looks utterly soulless. No wonder Wet Sham fans are pissed off.
  • Rothko said:
    I had to wait till stage 8 for this, so looks like I’ve got the weekend off 
    There’s bound to be returns between now and the game 
    .
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 19,436
    Rothko said:
    I had to wait till stage 8 for this, so looks like I’ve got the weekend off 
    There’s bound to be returns between now and the game 
    .
    I can't see three in a row being available, I'll check, but them the breaks
  • 801912601
    801912601 Posts: 669
    Managed to get tickets in block 218
  • cafc-4-life
    cafc-4-life Posts: 1,382
    100% sold out. But what are the black boxes? Potentially to open up for extra seats or?
  • AS1987
    AS1987 Posts: 174
    100% sold out. But what are the black boxes? Potentially to open up for extra seats or?
    Those are seats that will be covered with segregation netting/tarpaulin.
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 21,914
    100% sold out. But what are the black boxes? Potentially to open up for extra seats or?

    There will be no extra seats - I believe the club asked and Wet Spam said a very straight No.
  • This system has been around for a while now but still get the same argument every popular away game, it really is simple, just go to more games and build your points! Then you will climb the list of phases. 

  • bolloxbolder
    bolloxbolder Posts: 8,368
    I only got tickets in the home end as I thought it wouldn't reach those with less than 530, ie me!. Looks like I was right. I'll be close by in Block 225.
  • sm
    sm Posts: 3,054
    bobmunro said:
    100% sold out. But what are the black boxes? Potentially to open up for extra seats or?

    There will be no extra seats - I believe the club asked and Wet Spam said a very straight No.
    Does the same apply to tax payers continuing to provide them with a subsidised stadium?