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Bag Policy- Update

Folks

An update on the club's Bag Policy -in contacting the club I was pleased to see there is to be a relaxation of the rules - I got the below response to a query I raised with them:

"I can confirm that the policy will be changing slightly to suit small rucksacks, this is after consultation with supporters' groups and after fan feedback. The backpack you bought in the club shop falls within the newer policy so you will be able to enter The Valley with this bag. Better communication will be provided to fans and for stewards/matchday staff to relay to fans attending games here for the rest of the season."

I know that fans' groups have worked hard on this so this is good news that they and we have been listened to!

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  • Sorry to be pedantic, but do we have the size that is considered a small rucksack? 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 36,889
    Sorry to be pedantic, but do we have the size that is considered a small rucksack? 
    Probably the size of small rucksack that only the club shop sells.
  • HRBryan
    HRBryan Posts: 64
    Yes- they said the one they sell (£15) is acceptable-it is 2" bigger than A4 size but it is now within the rules...
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 25,910
    Regardless of bag size , the whole concept is uncalled for and strikes me as being pathetic.
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 5,758
    ‘Newer’ ?

    That (to me at least) is such poor language. 
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 22,133
    edited October 1
    ‘Newer’ ?

    That (to me at least) is such poor language. 

    Me too - 'revised' , 'updated' or 'amended' would be so much better.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 73,410
    HRBryan said:
    No measurements on this, which doesn't help!
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 30,150
    bobmunro said:
    ‘Newer’ ?

    That (to me at least) is such poor language. 

    Me too - 'revised' , 'updated' or 'amended' would be so much better.
    Or, put some spin on it with 'enhanced' 😉.
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 10,546
    I think the terminology is all wrong here.
    The bag in the link above is really a knapsack.

    There is no such thing as a ’small rucksack’ because a rucksack is by definition larger than a knapsack or backback. Indeed, I seem to remember back in the 70s and 80s that a rucksack specifically meant a backback with a metal frame.

    Rucksacks are larger and feature more compartments and pockets to carry significantly heavier loads. They also feature hip belts and chest belts to help wearers carry them for the long run without stressing their backs. In essence, the answer to the "what is a rucksack" question is this: a rucksack is a more rugged, larger backpack built for outdoor endurance.

    The term "rucksack" comes from German, and it means a sack you carry on your back. Now the word is the American equivalent of "backpack" in Europe. Countries like Germany, the Netherlands, Romania, Sweden, and even Russia use the word "rucksack" to describe a sizeable and resilient bag people carry on their backs for daily use or travel.

    In the United States, the rucksack is a bag worn by the U.S. military, hikers, campers, globetrotters, etc.

    https://totebagfactory.com/blogs/news/what-is-a-rucksack-rucksack-vs-backpack-vs-knapsack



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  • redman
    redman Posts: 5,518
    Most backpacks you buy don't get sold by dimensions.  They are usually sold by what they hold. The ones we have are x litre size. 
  • Macronate
    Macronate Posts: 13,195
    So is this ok?

    Image result for man with loads of suitcases
  • cblock
    cblock Posts: 2,095
    Do away fans have to comply with the bag policy rules? just wondering where they have to leave their bags if they are oversized.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 31,199
    cblock said:
    Do away fans have to comply with the bag policy rules? just wondering where they have to leave their bags if they are oversized.

    That's a very good point, I bet they do not have to, and rightly so.
    The whole thing is a nonsense.
  • I only asked about size on behalf of my son who attends night games straight from the office ... He thinks he can make it work.


  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 6,112
    cblock said:
    Do away fans have to comply with the bag policy rules? just wondering where they have to leave their bags if they are oversized.
    as if any of them will stay over a night or more whilst down in London and have overnight stuff etc
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 9,179
    HRBryan said:
    Yes- they said the one they sell (£15) is acceptable-it is 2" bigger than A4 size but it is now within the rules...
    thats great - can use an A4 envelope, maybe even an A4 jiffy bag - that'll sort it 
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 22,514
    Finally had an email response from Spurs about my enquiry for a medical exemption for our cup game! Absolute disgrace it's taken this long to reply, apparently they've been working through a large volume of enquiries. 
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 34,651
    Finally had an email response from Spurs about my enquiry for a medical exemption for our cup game! Absolute disgrace it's taken this long to reply, apparently they've been working through a large volume of enquiries. 
    Should have just hidden your stuff up your dress 😁
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 30,150
    I think the terminology is all wrong here.
    The bag in the link above is really a knapsack.

    There is no such thing as a ’small rucksack’ because a rucksack is by definition larger than a knapsack or backback. Indeed, I seem to remember back in the 70s and 80s that a rucksack specifically meant a backback with a metal frame.

    Rucksacks are larger and feature more compartments and pockets to carry significantly heavier loads. They also feature hip belts and chest belts to help wearers carry them for the long run without stressing their backs. In essence, the answer to the "what is a rucksack" question is this: a rucksack is a more rugged, larger backpack built for outdoor endurance.

    The term "rucksack" comes from German, and it means a sack you carry on your back. Now the word is the American equivalent of "backpack" in Europe. Countries like Germany, the Netherlands, Romania, Sweden, and even Russia use the word "rucksack" to describe a sizeable and resilient bag people carry on their backs for daily use or travel.

    In the United States, the rucksack is a bag worn by the U.S. military, hikers, campers, globetrotters, etc.

    https://totebagfactory.com/blogs/news/what-is-a-rucksack-rucksack-vs-backpack-vs-knapsack


    Well, you learn something everyday. I agree with your definition of rucksack, but for some reason I always thought a knapsack was one of these:



    Turns out, this is a bindle. And it's altogether more difficult to get an A4 sized one of these than practically any other bag. Valderee, valderah!

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  • cblock
    cblock Posts: 2,095
    edited October 2
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  • Radostanradical
    Radostanradical Posts: 1,550
    edited October 3
    Will the West Stand fans be allowed to bring in their prawn sandwiches?
  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,911
    Will the West Stand fans be allowed to bring in their prawn sandwiches?
    The sandwiches are fine, as is my bovril, but my quilted blanket might be an issue
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 73,410
    edited October 3
    https://www.wolves.co.uk/media/zohnp5is/v2_away2627_matchdayguide-1.pdf

    Looking up the Wolves rules for away fans, they have something similar. A4 bags only, plus a specific list of banned items


  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 30,150
    I bet there are lots of clubs with A4 bags policies. Not because there's any particular reason for that size to be the limit, but because they all copy the first one, rather than spending much time thinking about what's really necessary and appropriate. After all, if they'd thought it through, they'd know that the standard unit for measuring bag sizes is the litre, not a sheet of paper.
  • addickson
    addickson Posts: 923
    They could make the size clearer, e.g. smaller than the garden of my uncle, but larger than the pen of my aunt
  • Sark99
    Sark99 Posts: 194
    Finally had an email response from Spurs about my enquiry for a medical exemption for our cup game! Absolute disgrace it's taken this long to reply, apparently they've been working through a large volume of enquiries. 
    Yes it is a disgrace. Having a chronic condition and trying to manage it is bad enough.
  • CaptainRobbo
    CaptainRobbo Posts: 2,825
    Finally had an email response from Spurs about my enquiry for a medical exemption for our cup game! Absolute disgrace it's taken this long to reply, apparently they've been working through a large volume of enquiries. 
    Think they have other stuff to worry about....


  • JohnnyH2
    JohnnyH2 Posts: 5,578
    https://x.com/Gavin_Carter/status/2106542224947208696

    The Chairman says something on this issue
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 5,758
    As far as I can see that doesnt stipulate ‘A4’ size. 

    It’s about proportional and appropriate measures. 

    I’d love to know what stewards have been trained to spot in a bag search !