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Owners- Short arms & Long pockets..........or no pockets?

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  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 5,749
    fenaddick said:
    Rothko said:
    Its all gone quiet on the investor/sale stuff 
    I'd much rather these things were done quietly. That isn't to say something is happening though
    We were never for sale … 
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 19,576
    fenaddick said:
    Rothko said:
    Its all gone quiet on the investor/sale stuff 
    I'd much rather these things were done quietly. That isn't to say something is happening though
    We were never for sale … 
    yes we are you weapons grade idiot
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 3,186
    They gave NJ bigger budget then last year .. let’s not forget we were long way down the line in agreeing a deal of up-to 6 mill for our former winger .. wages have  increased massively with us close to having a 30k a week player on our books .. so money been spent and there still some left if needed in January perhaps a cheaper deal for JRS 
    Bullshit Ronnie!!
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 11,278
    fenaddick said:
    Rothko said:
    Its all gone quiet on the investor/sale stuff 
    I'd much rather these things were done quietly. That isn't to say something is happening though
    Think we'll only know anything when a piece about a prospective buyer appears on The Athletic.  Don't think we're at the " who's in the directors box" stage of things yet ;)
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 3,186
    fenaddick said:
    Rothko said:
    Its all gone quiet on the investor/sale stuff 
    I'd much rather these things were done quietly. That isn't to say something is happening though
    We were never for sale … 
    More bullshit Ronnie!!!
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 6,920
    Complete guess but I think they probably want too much money to recoup what they've put in. So this will drag on until they get more realistic about what people are willing to pay for us 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 11,278
    NabySarr said:
    Complete guess but I think they probably want too much money to recoup what they've put in. So this will drag on until they get more realistic about what people are willing to pay for us 
    Matt Slater reckoned they wanted £50m. Which I can't see happening. 
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 5,826
    Is no one reading Rodwells take on our signings? We have spent well apparently 😉😀
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 20,220
    Is no one reading Rodwells take on our signings? We have spent well apparently 😉😀
    Bowlin Warnie 
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 34,753
    They gave NJ bigger budget then last year .. let’s not forget we were long way down the line in agreeing a deal of up-to 6 mill for our former winger .. wages have  increased massively with us close to having a 30k a week player on our books .. so money been spent and there still some left if needed in January perhaps a cheaper deal for JRS 
    I'll bite. Who is this close to 30k PW player? I'm assuming it's Grant or Skipp and if so that's about 27k pw more than either are worth.

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  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 6,920
    They gave NJ bigger budget then last year .. let’s not forget we were long way down the line in agreeing a deal of up-to 6 mill for our former winger .. wages have  increased massively with us close to having a 30k a week player on our books .. so money been spent and there still some left if needed in January perhaps a cheaper deal for JRS 
    I'll bite. Who is this close to 30k PW player? I'm assuming it's Grant or Skipp and if so that's about 27k pw more than either are worth.
    Grant was on 30k at West Brom probably. No chance he is on that now 

    I would guess our top earners are probably on around £15k a week, definitely no one on more than 20k. That will be Grant, Jones, TC and Ramsay all around that ballpark 
  • MarcusH26 said:
    Just think they've got spooked by what's required to be truly competitive at this level. We're well within what can be invested but I don't think the appetite to do it is there. 

    Would not be surprised if we're in new hands by the end of the season. 

    Any new owner would likely want in by end of Jan I would imagine.  That way they can spend and turn our season around.  Buying after then if our form stays poor could be a spectacularly bad investment.
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 3,186
    edited October 24
    Should the owners be getting a bit more heat than they are at the moment? all seems to be directed at NJ and less so the players. Just wondered what people thought. Just feel like a bit of clarity is required about the ambition( if any) they have. It’s the way of football that ultimately the manager will be responsible for things on the pitch, but I really do feel like NJ. Has been thrown under the bus.
  • Cafc451
    Cafc451 Posts: 377
    Friedman wants out.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 24,938
    edited October 24
    Cafc451 said:
    Friedman wants out.
    Good 
    Just sell the club and fuck off 
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 20,106
    Cafc451 said:
    Friedman wants out.
    Good 
    Just sell the club and fuck off 

    Wouldn't really be selling the club though would they?
    Such is this ownership scenario, we've basically got another pub landlord who's had enough/ potless/never really had much interest in the first place.
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 5,826
    Nonsense. They love the project and are here for the long term…😀
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 11,278
    I guess I wonder how attractive we are to potential buyers too beyond being in London. I know every time we come up for sale people within the game talk about what a great opportunity we are for the right owner etc but we always seem to end up back in the same position within a few years with an owner that's wanting rid of the club and back on the merry-go-round of if the next incumbent will be the one that finally pushes us forward into that next tier of Championship clubs. 

    I'd guess bar a select few for various different reasons most of the league is either up for sale or looking for new investment. 
  • Ferryman
    Ferryman Posts: 3,029
    I'm sure if they wanted to they could put in more money and not be in breach of any financial rules.

    They just don't want to. The "sale" document at least showed that they are looking for additional funding, and that they had hit their own individual limits. 

    But I will say that I don't believe anything Rodwell, Carter or NJ says about what was spent in the summer & how our budget is "bottom 3".  Grant's wages can't be cheap & I expect we are paying a pretty penny towards Skipp's wages too. 

    Long & short - we got away with it last season mainly due to teams having points deducted. Not sure we are going to be so lucky this season. 

    Surely the £4M earmarked for JRS will be available in January?
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 24,938
    Ferryman said:
    I'm sure if they wanted to they could put in more money and not be in breach of any financial rules.

    They just don't want to. The "sale" document at least showed that they are looking for additional funding, and that they had hit their own individual limits. 

    But I will say that I don't believe anything Rodwell, Carter or NJ says about what was spent in the summer & how our budget is "bottom 3".  Grant's wages can't be cheap & I expect we are paying a pretty penny towards Skipp's wages too. 

    Long & short - we got away with it last season mainly due to teams having points deducted. Not sure we are going to be so lucky this season. 

    Surely the £4M earmarked for JRS will be available in January?
    The way our transfer deals go we will probably spent on resigning Docherty 

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  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,616
    MarcusH26 said:
    I guess I wonder how attractive we are to potential buyers too beyond being in London. I know every time we come up for sale people within the game talk about what a great opportunity we are for the right owner etc but we always seem to end up back in the same position within a few years with an owner that's wanting rid of the club and back on the merry-go-round of if the next incumbent will be the one that finally pushes us forward into that next tier of Championship clubs. 

    I'd guess bar a select few for various different reasons most of the league is either up for sale or looking for new investment. 
    I think we’ve had such bad luck with ownership. Ever since the Zabeel deal we’ve had bad owner after bad owner. We are a prime club for investment, location, academy etc but we are in such a mess with Roland still holding the cards and having a number of owners of the club right now. 
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 13,846
    Cafc451 said:
    Friedman wants out.
    As was said about 2 months ago - it’s not exactly new news 
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 35,120
    Can’t wait for the next circus of clowns to turn up (ffs what did these fruits expect , except bigger and bigger losses or someone to come in and offer em £150m for the club who rent a ground and training ground)
    we can then all fawn over the next fruit loops who come in .
    no sane person would touch us with a barge pole .
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,488
    Gabriel Brener and his wife were in attendance today.
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 5,826
    cafcfan said:
    Gabriel Brener and his wife were in attendance today.
    Presumably wondering why no one was buying tickets at £35 a pop. 
  • CafcWest
    CafcWest Posts: 6,516
    cafcfan said:
    Gabriel Brener and his wife were in attendance today.
    Presumably wondering why no one was buying tickets at £35 a pop. 
    In the high price area they were £40 ... madness!
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 29,084
    It’s the same old Charlton. Finally look like we’re progressing and have a chance of stabilising in The Championship and the owners lose interest/run out of cash and we inevitably get relegated. SCP and the crooks all over again. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 37,063
    cafcfan said:
    Gabriel Brener and his wife were in attendance today.
    No-one had the guts to say anything to him I suppose. Instead I imagine there was lots of fawning in the lounges.

    Need to bring back the LIAR banner.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 24,159
    cafcfan said:
    Gabriel Brener and his wife were in attendance today.
    No-one had the guts to say anything to him I suppose. Instead I imagine there was lots of fawning in the lounges.

    Need to bring back the LIAR banner.
    To be fair I don't think he's the problem, he isn't the main money man by a long stretch
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 11,278
    fenaddick said:
    cafcfan said:
    Gabriel Brener and his wife were in attendance today.
    No-one had the guts to say anything to him I suppose. Instead I imagine there was lots of fawning in the lounges.

    Need to bring back the LIAR banner.
    To be fair I don't think he's the problem, he isn't the main money man by a long stretch
    Nope won't be close to being the main money man but does seem to be the main one that's actually at games. 

    I think it was mentioned that he was actually pushing for Friedman to sell his stake as opposed to a full sale.