‘Be Ready’ campaign - just in case

Karim_myBagheri

Chizz said:

T_C_E said:

Chizz said:

T_C_E said:

I thought we were ok for many a month with a variety of supplies including chicken, beef, lamb, pork minces, with a supplemental helping of pork and beef ribs and chicken drumsticks, only when I saw the tripe chunks I realised I was in the dogs freezer.
Ours consisted of a pizza and two packs of burgers, so I guess we’re fecked! 🤷‍♂️

Your dogs are going to feast like champions for the first few days. Until it all thaws out, of course! 

It takes on average two days to defrost a 2 kilo block of minced meat so stored in the quantities we buy it they should be good for a month, I’ll have wasted away by then so will need someone to pop by and feed them. 😉

So, on day three, with no power, all the chicken, beef, lamb, etc is thawed 🤔

Let us eat, drink and be merry for tomorrow we die.. 

Chizz

Karim_myBagheri said:

Chizz said:

T_C_E said:

Chizz said:

T_C_E said:

I thought we were ok for many a month with a variety of supplies including chicken, beef, lamb, pork minces, with a supplemental helping of pork and beef ribs and chicken drumsticks, only when I saw the tripe chunks I realised I was in the dogs freezer.
Ours consisted of a pizza and two packs of burgers, so I guess we’re fecked! 🤷‍♂️

Your dogs are going to feast like champions for the first few days. Until it all thaws out, of course! 

It takes on average two days to defrost a 2 kilo block of minced meat so stored in the quantities we buy it they should be good for a month, I’ll have wasted away by then so will need someone to pop by and feed them. 😉

So, on day three, with no power, all the chicken, beef, lamb, etc is thawed 🤔

Let us eat, drink and be merry for tomorrow we die.. 

Maybe the day after tomorrow, if the meat stays ok

oohaahmortimer

AFKABartram said:

@oohaahmortimer bog roll stocks

1-3 days 0%

3-7 days 10%

7-14 days 70%

14 days + 20%

I have about 600+ bog  rolls in the household currently, stocked in my office where I can keep track of them.
I’ve been doing this for years pre covid etc 
25 years or so ago when living in a flat on my own I ran out of bog rolls,  that is never happening again!!

you might be able to see I’ve saved an old purple packet of Andrex (bottom right next to the Kleenex) no longer produced, that’s about 3 years old 🤪 vintage bog rolls.
I’m clearly off my rocker .

Leroy Ambrose

This is all utter nonsense. If the US, Russia or China attack us, it will have got to the point where it's a nuclear exchange and you'll wish you'd died in the first attack anyway. 

Miserableoldgit

Leroy Ambrose said:

This is all utter nonsense. If the US, Russia or China attack us, it will have got to the point where it's a nuclear exchange and you'll wish you'd died in the first attack anyway. 

And today's "Mr Cheerful" award goes to.....

Alwaysneil

Leroy Ambrose said:

This is all utter nonsense. If the US, Russia or China attack us, it will have got to the point where it's a nuclear exchange and you'll wish you'd died in the first attack anyway. 

Buy a couple of rolls of tin foil and a kilo of crack to be placed in a safe which opens in the event of nuclear war. If the tin foil doesnt work on the windows, you can use it to smoke yourself to death. 

ME14addick

Leroy Ambrose said:

This is all utter nonsense. If the US, Russia or China attack us, it will have got to the point where it's a nuclear exchange and you'll wish you'd died in the first attack anyway. 

Recommend watching The War Game which was broadcast on Sky last month. A nuclear attack wouldn't necessarily wipe out the whole country, there are degrees of damage depending on the size of the bomb and how far you are from the point of impact, this was explained in the programme which played out a situation where Russia creates a false flag event. 

There are many reasons why normal life might be suspended, including cyber attacks, biological warfare, extreme weather events causing power cuts, flooding, wildfires and a war such as the one we are seeing in Ukraine where drones are employed. 

Over the last year we've seen in the south east, that water supplies are often disrupted so keeping a supply of bottled water is a good idea.

Keeping a good stock of items like loo rolls is a sensible idea and would prevent the panic buying that we've seen in the past.  When you've built up a supply, all you need to do is buy normal quantities when you do your shopping. 

We live in turbulent times and a changing climate, being prepared for all eventualities is a good idea.

Weegie Addick

Not looking for any plaudits here but thought I’d give you a report on an early trial. 

Went to bed at midnight with storm Boelo just building up. At 1.30am the power went off. Fortunately we do have a few bars of 4G. On checking this morning the power company said we’d be back on by 8pm tonight.

We have no mains gas here in our village near the Mull of Kintyre so are totally reliant on electricity for power, heat and light. We also lost our village shop and tearoom two years ago and the pub closed in June. Nearest facilities are now 10-12 miles away in Campbeltown.

We dug out our camping gas stove then realised we didn’t have a canister for it. Fortunately our neighbour had a spare so we could boil up water for a hot drink and make a bacon butty.

Phones had about 30% charge so turned them to lower power mode. 

We have a solar / battery powered digital radio which was still working but our old analogue phone is no longer of use as the landlines have gone. 

Went without a shower and put on our winter clothes / woolly jumpers. Fortunately ambient temperature outside is about 12/13 degrees though will drop to 9/10 overnight. 

Headed the 12 miles into town (where luckily they do have power) and treated ourselves to lunch out. Tried to stock up on gas but the only store open had run out. Charged up our phones on the car trip. 

Got home while still light enough to put torches and candles into every room and move our bedding to the slightly warmer guest bedroom for the night. Then noticed a change on the power company website - now saying we won’t be back on till 8pm on Weds. Suddenly things got serious! We will now lose a freezer full of food. We were due to go away tomorrow for a midweek family wedding and are now concerned re leaving the house without power. Fortunately we still have an open fire which is getting its first use for a couple of years. And we have lots of loo roll and have just cracked open the red wine. We’ll survive. But it has been a wake up call beyond the obvious:

- keep gas canisters in stock
- keep coal, kindling and firelighters in stock
- keep phones and laptops and/or battery pack charged / car well-fuelled
- keep fingers crossed that the 4G network doesn’t crash 
- keep fingers crossed that the power remains on in the local town as otherwise we are a very long way from supplies 

Don’t think I’m particularly cut-out for survival mode!! 

EugenesAxe

.when people say keep phone and laptops charged, does that mean constantly on 100% just in case theres a power cut or charge them when they need charging, in which case what if the power goes off when they are at say 10% when you were keeping them charged but about to charge them?

usetobunkin

ME14addick said:

Leroy Ambrose said:

This is all utter nonsense. If the US, Russia or China attack us, it will have got to the point where it's a nuclear exchange and you'll wish you'd died in the first attack anyway. 

Recommend watching The War Game which was broadcast on Sky last month. A nuclear attack wouldn't necessarily wipe out the whole country, there are degrees of damage depending on the size of the bomb and how far you are from the point of impact, this was explained in the programme which played out a situation where Russia creates a false flag event. 

There are many reasons why normal life might be suspended, including cyber attacks, biological warfare, extreme weather events causing power cuts, flooding, wildfires and a war such as the one we are seeing in Ukraine where drones are employed. 

Over the last year we've seen in the south east, that water supplies are often disrupted so keeping a supply of bottled water is a good idea.

Keeping a good stock of items like loo rolls is a sensible idea and would prevent the panic buying that we've seen in the past.  When you've built up a supply, all you need to do is buy normal quantities when you do your shopping. 

We live in turbulent times and a changing climate, being prepared for all eventualities is a good idea.

Russia has the "Dead Hand" Object 1335, if you want to look it up. 
If a Nuclear Exchange happens to any degree I think you are better off being underneath the first strike.

AFKABartram

Weegie Addick said:

- keep gas canisters in stock

- keep coal, kindling and firelighters in stock
- keep phones and laptops and/or battery pack charged / car well-fuelled
- keep fingers crossed that the 4G network doesn’t crash 
- keep fingers crossed that the power remains on in the local town as otherwise we are a very long way from supplies
- live within driving distance of a good pub offering hearty two course lunches
- maintain a cellar of good quality reds

Don’t think I’m particularly cut-out for survival mode!! 

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Bring it on! 🤣

Weegie Addick

Good additions @AFKABartram! 

EugenesAxe

There's bound to be a Wetherspoons open...

bobmunro

I heard that the sales of wind-up radios has gone through the roof - can't get them anywhere.

Leroy Ambrose

ME14addick said:

Leroy Ambrose said:

This is all utter nonsense. If the US, Russia or China attack us, it will have got to the point where it's a nuclear exchange and you'll wish you'd died in the first attack anyway. 

Recommend watching The War Game which was broadcast on Sky last month. A nuclear attack wouldn't necessarily wipe out the whole country, there are degrees of damage depending on the size of the bomb and how far you are from the point of impact, this was explained in the programme which played out a situation where Russia creates a false flag event. 

There are many reasons why normal life might be suspended, including cyber attacks, biological warfare, extreme weather events causing power cuts, flooding, wildfires and a war such as the one we are seeing in Ukraine where drones are employed. 

Over the last year we've seen in the south east, that water supplies are often disrupted so keeping a supply of bottled water is a good idea.

Keeping a good stock of items like loo rolls is a sensible idea and would prevent the panic buying that we've seen in the past.  When you've built up a supply, all you need to do is buy normal quantities when you do your shopping. 

We live in turbulent times and a changing climate, being prepared for all eventualities is a good idea.

If we've got to the point where countries are firing nuclear weapons at each other matey, we're fucked. I'd rather go instantly than be chased round an dytopian urban hellhole by zombies. Chorley Tesco on a Thursday evening is bad enough. 

Karim_myBagheri

Does tinned food withstand nuclear radiation? 

aliwibble

Karim_myBagheri said:

Does tinned food withstand nuclear radiation? 

I should imagine it depends on distance from the blast and the type of radiation involved. Might end up getting superheated in the tin, a bit like if you microwave it.

man_at_milletts

Karim_myBagheri said:

Does tinned food withstand nuclear radiation? 

Fray Bentos Steak and Kidney pudding I should imagine does.  It bloody well withstands everything else.

Lincsaddick

Don't forget the mini camp/gas stove. No good having soup, beans, water, tea, coffee, rice pudding etc etc if you can't warm them up, unless you like cold tinned food in the winter after civilisation breaks down, or at best if water, gas and electricity supplies are temporarily halted

aliwibble

Leroy Ambrose said:

ME14addick said:

Leroy Ambrose said:

This is all utter nonsense. If the US, Russia or China attack us, it will have got to the point where it's a nuclear exchange and you'll wish you'd died in the first attack anyway. 

Recommend watching The War Game which was broadcast on Sky last month. A nuclear attack wouldn't necessarily wipe out the whole country, there are degrees of damage depending on the size of the bomb and how far you are from the point of impact, this was explained in the programme which played out a situation where Russia creates a false flag event. 

There are many reasons why normal life might be suspended, including cyber attacks, biological warfare, extreme weather events causing power cuts, flooding, wildfires and a war such as the one we are seeing in Ukraine where drones are employed. 

Over the last year we've seen in the south east, that water supplies are often disrupted so keeping a supply of bottled water is a good idea.

Keeping a good stock of items like loo rolls is a sensible idea and would prevent the panic buying that we've seen in the past.  When you've built up a supply, all you need to do is buy normal quantities when you do your shopping. 

We live in turbulent times and a changing climate, being prepared for all eventualities is a good idea.

If we've got to the point where countries are firing nuclear weapons at each other matey, we're fucked. I'd rather go instantly than be chased round an dytopian urban hellhole by zombies. Chorley Tesco on a Thursday evening is bad enough. 

Ah this takes me back to conversations at school in the early 80s, trying to work out if Blackheath was close enough to Westminster for us to get instantly vaporised, or we'd just get a nasty case of radiation sickness for a few weeks before popping our clogs. Not sure if it was War Games or When The Wind Blows that triggered that one.

robinofottershaw

aliwibble said:

aliwibble said:

iainment said:

Miserableoldgit said:

iainment said:

But, isn’t this political?

How so ?

Because it’s connected to climate change, the situation in Palestine, the war in Iran and the war in Ukraine. All of which have been caused by political decisions about the environment, fossil fuels, the rights of Palestinians and national autonomy in Ukraine.

If we veer off into that stuff, it would be. Discussion of useful essentials, helpful hints and possible pitfalls is fine.

One obvious thing, is that if the power goes out, there's no point having food that requires cooking if you've only got a microwave, an air fryer or an electric oven. However, if you've got a gas oven or hob, you may still be out of luck, depending on whether the ignition circuit runs off the mains, a battery or a piezoelectric thingy. It's worth finding out before you're scrabbling around in the dark trying to get the damn thing to light while dealing with hangry family members.

We have a gas bbq and also one for charcoal briquettes that we could cook or heat things up on. Would make a change using them in the winter if needed.

EugenesAxe

aliwibble said:

Karim_myBagheri said:

Does tinned food withstand nuclear radiation? 

I should imagine it depends on distance from the blast and the type of radiation involved. Might end up getting superheated in the tin, a bit like if you microwave it.

That'll save having to heat it up tho!

aliwibble

EugenesAxe said:

aliwibble said:

Karim_myBagheri said:

Does tinned food withstand nuclear radiation? 

I should imagine it depends on distance from the blast and the type of radiation involved. Might end up getting superheated in the tin, a bit like if you microwave it.

That'll save having to heat it up tho!

Might make it go bang though

usetobunkin

Leroy Ambrose said:

ME14addick said:

Leroy Ambrose said:

This is all utter nonsense. If the US, Russia or China attack us, it will have got to the point where it's a nuclear exchange and you'll wish you'd died in the first attack anyway. 

Recommend watching The War Game which was broadcast on Sky last month. A nuclear attack wouldn't necessarily wipe out the whole country, there are degrees of damage depending on the size of the bomb and how far you are from the point of impact, this was explained in the programme which played out a situation where Russia creates a false flag event. 

There are many reasons why normal life might be suspended, including cyber attacks, biological warfare, extreme weather events causing power cuts, flooding, wildfires and a war such as the one we are seeing in Ukraine where drones are employed. 

Over the last year we've seen in the south east, that water supplies are often disrupted so keeping a supply of bottled water is a good idea.

Keeping a good stock of items like loo rolls is a sensible idea and would prevent the panic buying that we've seen in the past.  When you've built up a supply, all you need to do is buy normal quantities when you do your shopping. 

We live in turbulent times and a changing climate, being prepared for all eventualities is a good idea.

If we've got to the point where countries are firing nuclear weapons at each other matey, we're fucked. I'd rather go instantly than be chased round an dytopian urban hellhole by zombies. Chorley Tesco on a Thursday evening is bad enough. 

Especially if Leyland has not got a night shift on the go.

KBslittlesis

I can’t believe that so many, who when through the ‘if you hear this sound’ era, have become so blaze about being prepared 😳

We always had a stash in the event of an emergency. And we’ve had to use it a few times when we first moved to West Cork as the electric was always going out. 

There’s always a need to be prepared. Now more than ever as we rely so heavily on electricity for pretty much everything.
I’m looking forward to pouring hot wax on my finger tips to entertain me through the evenings just like in the 70’s 😂😂

Alwaysneil

bobmunro said:

I heard that the sales of wind-up radios has gone through the roof - can't get them anywhere.

Bit of a windup

Weegie Addick

EugenesAxe said:

There's bound to be a Wetherspoons open...

Not round here there isn’t 

Hex

A caller to LBC recently related their experience of living in Portugal during the massive blackout that affected Portugal, Spain and parts of France last year.  He had just dropped his wife at work and was on his way home.  He turned on the car radio - nothing, tried other stations - nothing.  Got home and couldn't open the electric gates to his driveway due to no power.  Decided to phone his wife to see if she knew what was going on - nothing, no mobile signal.  He spent the next few hours wondering what was going on - nobody knew.  
You wonder what it would be like to be in that situation for several days if something 'major' was to happen here.  Hopefully our brand new wind-up radio that arrived yesterday (phew!) would receive something eventually. 

usetobunkin

I doubt Sub Saharan Africa would notice if the World went to war. 

Most of the people live on less then $10 a day.
Seem to be happier than us living in a techno paradise.

Chizz

Hex said:

A caller to LBC recently related their experience of living in Portugal during the massive blackout that affected Portugal, Spain and parts of France last year.  He had just dropped his wife at work and was on his way home.  He turned on the car radio - nothing, tried other stations - nothing.  Got home and couldn't open the electric gates to his driveway due to no power.  Decided to phone his wife to see if she knew what was going on - nothing, no mobile signal.  He spent the next few hours wondering what was going on - nobody knew.  
You wonder what it would be like to be in that situation for several days if something 'major' was to happen here.  Hopefully our brand new wind-up radio that arrived yesterday (phew!) would receive something eventually. 

I thought LBC was wind-up radio