[quote][cite]Posted By: jimmymelrose[/cite] I often defend Golfie for example, but how can you criticise the no-smoking ban, on the grounds of democracy?
Blimey, here we go again. It is undemocratic because the Labour party manifesto on which they were elected clearly stated that pubs would have the choice whether to be smoking or non-smoking. They then did what they liked, with no mandate from the electorate whatsoever. That is not democracy JM.
I am a non-smoker, always have been but I hate the smoking ban. It is destroying the pub culture. Have somke free pubs by all means but give people a choice FFS.
Kevin Keegan Students anything Goonerish Students Massive Newcastle(f**k off The lads). Rodney Marsh Students. People with back packs on crowded trains. Ken Livingston and his socialist army.
[cite]Posted By: Curb_It[/cite]what was his gripe with budget airlines?
wish we all could afford to fly BA continually? Wouldnt that be nice eh nige!
It wasn't so much the budget airlines as a whole. He found it infuriating that they were more expensive the later you book as they're hardly budget. he said because of his job, he has to fly places last minute, and thats when the flights are really expensive, so he's sitting next to someone who bought their ticket 5 years ago for a penny, he bought his 5 mins ago for £500.
Keegan himself I have no problem with. He's brutally honest as when he admitted he wasnt up to the Engalnd job. He's a amsuing guy and will at least liven up the post match interviews. It's the hysteria that comes with him I don't get.
When he left Man City did the football world mourn? Were Man City everyone's second club cos they played such great football? Did he win them the league or cup.
He walked out on Newcastle after spending £60m - a huge amount now but even more then - and not winning a thing. Never worked out that you need organisation, tactics and a defence as well as "passion".
Mike Ashley makes money selling replica shirts and he's just sold another few thousand with King Kev on the back. What next? SIgn David Beckham to sell some more shirts. Good idea. Too old for the Prem league now but will keep the club in the headlines and shift some shirts.
[cite]Posted By: Curb_It[/cite]what was his gripe with budget airlines?
wish we all could afford to fly BA continually? Wouldnt that be nice eh nige!
It wasn't so much the budget airlines as a whole. He found it infuriating that they were more expensive the later you book as they're hardly budget. he said because of his job, he has to fly places last minute, and thats when the flights are really expensive, so he's sitting next to someone who bought their ticket 5 years ago for a penny, he bought his 5 mins ago for £500.
'Blimey, here we go again. It is undemocratic because the Labour party manifesto on which they were elected clearly stated that pubs would have the choice whether to be smoking or non-smoking. They then did what they liked, with no mandate from the electorate whatsoever. That is not democracy JM'.
The problem I have with this thread is that people are whinging about stuff that doesn't do them any harm.
My take on life is that people should be able to do what they want as long as it doesn't do any harm to others.
Smoking does harm others and you can not give pubs the choice as that would be discrimination in the workplace.
Frankly it is better to worry / discuss matters that actually matter. For starters on the subject of The Labour Party there were far more bigger and important lies told than that to people who force others to breath their smoke.
(And please don't give the argument that you are not 'forced' to go in a pub)
[cite]Posted By: shirty5[/cite]
Music blaring from Mobile phones on trains and buses
This is interesting because above I use the word 'harm'. What I should have said is lack of consideration. And this definately falls into that category. Although it's less serious of course than others things that actually do harm.
[quote][cite]Posted By: jimmymelrose[/cite]'Blimey, here we go again. It is undemocratic because the Labour party manifesto on which they were elected clearly stated that pubs would have the choice whether to be smoking or non-smoking. They then did what they liked, with no mandate from the electorate whatsoever. That is not democracy JM'.
The problem I have with this thread is that people are whinging about stuff that doesn't do them any harm. My take on life is that people should be able to do what they want as long as it doesn't do any harm to others. Smoking does harm others and you can not give pubs the choice as that would be discrimination in the workplace.
Frankly it is better to worry / discuss matters that actually matter. For starters on the subject of The Labour Party there were far more bigger and important lies told than that to people who force others to breath their smoke. (And please don't give the argument that you are not 'forced' to go in a pub)[/quote]
JM, you challenged golfie over the question of democracy, I answered the question, the correct response is "Thanks for putting me right", not going into another area to support your particular bug-bear.
I have no idea what the "discrimination in the workplace" bit is all about, and why on earth shouldn't I put accross the argument that you are not forced to go in the pub? It's true, so why not use it? Cars harm people through emmissions and by running people over, so I take it they should be banned too, going by your logic?
Harry Hill......whats funny? People who think Fosters and Castlemaine are Aussie Beers People who diss Guinness and then admit to never having tried it Guinness and Champagne.....waste of two good drinks Lager....fizzy gasssyyukky stuff Little Britain....sorry just dont get it South Park....same as above Continually being labelled a "Brit" abroad when the guy next to me is identified as Scottish, Irish or Welsh....Im Fecking English! The after taste of VB Lager and Blackcurrant
And as an aside...Goonerhater.....why do you hate the Gooners so much...did you get a slap up there or something?
Dangerous/drink driving, not fast driving is the killer. Speed cameras don't yet have the facility to carry out a breath test on dangerous/drunk drivers
A third of fatal accidents involve drunken drivers, which still leaves leaves 2000 deaths per year.
It is still the case that if you don't break the speed limit, then you are less likely to kill or maim others, and you don't get fined - as you are not breaking the law.
I agree but the less patrol cars people see the more likely they are to chance their arm at the more exciting* road skills like driving whilst pissed and to attempt rally crossing.
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I must be turning into Nigel Havers in my middle age then. Spot on list although I quite like Ken's attitude if not his politics or tactics.
wish we all could afford to fly BA continually? Wouldnt that be nice eh nige!
Blimey, here we go again. It is undemocratic because the Labour party manifesto on which they were elected clearly stated that pubs would have the choice whether to be smoking or non-smoking. They then did what they liked, with no mandate from the electorate whatsoever. That is not democracy JM.
Students
anything Goonerish
Students
Massive Newcastle(f**k off The lads).
Rodney Marsh
Students.
People with back packs on crowded trains.
Ken Livingston and his socialist army.
Honestly, with affection and admiration.
It wasn't so much the budget airlines as a whole. He found it infuriating that they were more expensive the later you book as they're hardly budget. he said because of his job, he has to fly places last minute, and thats when the flights are really expensive, so he's sitting next to someone who bought their ticket 5 years ago for a penny, he bought his 5 mins ago for £500.
When he left Man City did the football world mourn? Were Man City everyone's second club cos they played such great football? Did he win them the league or cup.
He walked out on Newcastle after spending £60m - a huge amount now but even more then - and not winning a thing. Never worked out that you need organisation, tactics and a defence as well as "passion".
Mike Ashley makes money selling replica shirts and he's just sold another few thousand with King Kev on the back. What next? SIgn David Beckham to sell some more shirts. Good idea. Too old for the Prem league now but will keep the club in the headlines and shift some shirts.
WORLD EXCLUSIVE:NEWCASTLE IN FOR BECKHAM.
he has a good point there.
LOL hadn't seen that honest.
As if I'd read the Daily Sport!!! Not as if I'm Paul Harley ; -)
Why, does it have lots of pictures then?
The problem I have with this thread is that people are whinging about stuff that doesn't do them any harm.
My take on life is that people should be able to do what they want as long as it doesn't do any harm to others.
Smoking does harm others and you can not give pubs the choice as that would be discrimination in the workplace.
Frankly it is better to worry / discuss matters that actually matter. For starters on the subject of The Labour Party there were far more bigger and important lies told than that to people who force others to breath their smoke.
(And please don't give the argument that you are not 'forced' to go in a pub)
Music blaring from Mobile phones on trains and buses
East Enders
The JW's at the Charlton Br Stn after home games
This is interesting because above I use the word 'harm'. What I should have said is lack of consideration. And this definately falls into that category. Although it's less serious of course than others things that actually do harm.
The problem I have with this thread is that people are whinging about stuff that doesn't do them any harm.
My take on life is that people should be able to do what they want as long as it doesn't do any harm to others.
Smoking does harm others and you can not give pubs the choice as that would be discrimination in the workplace.
Frankly it is better to worry / discuss matters that actually matter. For starters on the subject of The Labour Party there were far more bigger and important lies told than that to people who force others to breath their smoke.
(And please don't give the argument that you are not 'forced' to go in a pub)[/quote]
JM, you challenged golfie over the question of democracy, I answered the question, the correct response is "Thanks for putting me right", not going into another area to support your particular bug-bear.
I have no idea what the "discrimination in the workplace" bit is all about, and why on earth shouldn't I put accross the argument that you are not forced to go in the pub? It's true, so why not use it? Cars harm people through emmissions and by running people over, so I take it they should be banned too, going by your logic?
Harry Hill......whats funny?
People who think Fosters and Castlemaine are Aussie Beers
People who diss Guinness and then admit to never having tried it
Guinness and Champagne.....waste of two good drinks
Lager....fizzy gasssyyukky stuff
Little Britain....sorry just dont get it
South Park....same as above
Continually being labelled a "Brit" abroad when the guy next to me is identified as Scottish, Irish or Welsh....Im Fecking English!
The after taste of VB
Lager and Blackcurrant
And as an aside...Goonerhater.....why do you hate the Gooners so much...did you get a slap up there or something?
10 people a week are killed by motorists in this country.
If you don't break the speed limit, not only are you less likely to kill or maim others, you don't get fined either.
What he said.
It is still the case that if you don't break the speed limit, then you are less likely to kill or maim others, and you don't get fined - as you are not breaking the law.
*Sarcastic
Are you telling me they are not?
It says so on the adverts