Yesterday i was off work. About mid day 5/6 kids started playing footie in the street opposite my hse. There is a front garden. After about the 5th time the ball thumped my wall/ window i freaked out went out and told them to f**k off. Lots of grief gob and lip back. I felt like slapping at least one of these little arseholes. so hears the question to the parents out there "what would you do if i came round your gaff and thumped a football through your f**kin window " or " what would you do in my place with these little barstards?"
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I still do.
BUT I would go and see their parent,s if you know who they are, - be calm tell them your problem and guaranteed they won't give a shit either so chin the dad LOL.
Ok forget the scored a couple bit! :-(
We run like the wind. Backstreets, alleyways, gardens, sprinting like our lives depended on it. When out of breath we stopped in an alley, and my mate said what are we doing, its a only a bloody news of the world. But back then, we were frightened of getting in trouble, even for a poxy paper nick.
Nowadays, i suppose they would of just set fire to all the papers !
you wanted the houses with a decent wall either side of the drive, proper goal those ones.
I have a feeling i know where at least two live so, but im sure as hell aint seen no dad.
The biggest problem with kids today, their parents!!
If it was my boy I would ask him why he wasen't playing in the park in the first place and then ask why mouth of to a complete stranger?
Then clip him round the ear myself!
I have bought up my 2 kids the way my mum and dad brought me up and thats with discpline and respect!
too right mate
Me too mate the only way to go.
OB aint gona turn up if you were inclined to call em
Kids know there is f**k all you can do.
If you had CCTV or took a pic to show their parents they would call you a pedo.
I think a mother and son were fighting on my train this morning. I couldnt get a proper gander but i think the mother must have been young but there were coming close to blows and grown men were telling them off as the train was packed. I nearly had to stand up so i could get a proper nose but didnt want to lose my seat!
KenTread where do u live mate ? thats the answer ill send em round your way.
The bloke got really pissed off one day, got hold of the ball and refused to give it back and gave us dogs abuse. (He liked a beer and this was Sunday afternoon).
Me and my mate decided to go and have a "polite" word with him, (that's how I was brought up). Knocked on his door and after a few more verbals from him, he calmed down. We explained that we would try harder to avoid the ball going into his garden, that we understood it must piss him off. He agreed to give our ball back on the basis that we knock on his door and ask and not climb through his hedge/fence. We shook hands.
After that point we never had any problem with him or he with us. A year or two later, when I drank in the same pub, we became quite friendly and he said that he was most impressed that we had the decency to come round and talk to him face to face.
I was brought up to respect adults plus I would have been in serious grief at home if my parents found out I was being anti-social.
I can't see kids today doing that. I can't see adults being prepared to meet kids either though on that basis. A generational gulf has grown up which makes communication between adults and especially teenage kids almost impossible. The kids know it's very difficult for the adults to make them do anything and the parents of those kids are probably not going to step in and sort them out.
Some kids maybe, some kids certainly but all kids?
The parents on here say they would step in and that their kids would behave.
So is it that Charlton Life are unique amongst parents in giving their kids values and their kids in following them?
Or maybe some kids misbehave even when their parents have brought them up to not to. I'll admit to doing things that my parents would be dismayed to find out about - although I'm not telling you lot either : - )
I'm also having to smile knowing a few of these posters and that they have a less than law abiding past. I'm not judging anyone but would some of CLifers have been described as "yobs, hooligans, thieves" in younger days. Yes, yes I know. The Kray twins loved their mum and you could walk the streets (and as long as you had paid them their protection money they wouldn't burn your corner shop down)
Kids today are mouthy, loud and annoying sometimes. But wasn't it the apprentice boys of London who would regularly riot (I think the Apprentice boys in Derry got involved in violence as well). Isn't hooligan as a noun now over 100 years old? Why is that when kids in the old days were so well behaved?
I saw a kid stabbed outside my flat a few saturdays ago and left for dead by 3 blokes - (he didnt die) that is not what i want to see on my doorstep.. perhaps you in your "best district to live in" Bromley do not have to witness the behaviour that some of us do... so there fore cant see it for what it is. Its scary and we are all worried about it.
These days there seems to be no respect for adults and also kids assemble in far larger numbers than they used to as well. That makes it intimidating for all but the most courageous to confront them and ask them to move on. The police have no interest in any crimes other than persecuting motorists as it is an "easy nick" database etc so frustrations grow until somebody does something stupid.
There's a big leap from kids playing football in the road which is what the thread was originally about and a stabbing by three men.
That's a terrible thing to happen anywhere. That I live in Bromley doesn't mean that I'm not bothered or aware of what happens in Charlton where my elderly parents happen to live.
Do kids today have a different level of anger and attitude towards adults? Some of them maybe but all of them?
As with alot of stuff fine intentions re smaking etc get pulled out of shape and now those kids will have the OB on you in a second if they could. Beleive me OB would turn up then.
You seem to be alittle confused Henry its called LONDONDERRY and the apprentices stopped their city from being raised to the ground by a mob. They wernt hooligans they were heroes. Still you expected that answer didnt you. Thats why you posted what you did.
Patrick Hooligan was an Irishman who was the first man to be arrested for fighting during a football match.
"CLifers have been described as "yobs, hooligans, thieves" in younger days."
Is that a fact or a stab in the dak Henry>
The Kray twins loved their mum and you could walk the streets (and as long as you had paid them their protection money they wouldn't burn your corner shop down) It is a glamourised life style, which sadly has ruined alot of men,women and familes lifes, the only people that tell you they were great were villians themselves.
The reality is its the culture of this country, alot of do gooders, the kids no they can get away with murder, if they get a nicked then the parents a probably as bad as the kids or they will be sent to the local magistrates and told they are naughty young men and dont do it again. Personally there is a solution, a very simple one, for young offenders rather than send to a holiday camp where they can network and intimadate weaker offenders who end harming themselves due to the preasure and bulling they are recieving, why not send them to the army for three years. This would give them discipline, educate them and maybe make them better people. Yes the do gooders will complain about civil rights, but what about the rights of the people whose have had there property damaged, their car stolen, the poor kid who has been mugged for his phone or i pod, and maybe the little thugs may just think twice about commiting such crimes
A mob? surely not in the good old days. All that would have been needed was a clip around the ear from a lone policeman and the mob would have gone home.
And yes of course I expected that answer but the point in made. Some kids in the old days used to get stuck in and liked a row.
However neither tell me how i get these kids away from smashing a ball against my wall or in my front garden. I wonder if i can get them all to move to Bromely ? or i might set the red ants on em.
Happened in your day, happened in my day and hopefully will carry on happening. Rather em be doing that than in some alley sticking a needle in their arm.
Just be glad they're not playing knock down ginger and your door bell is going every ten minutes :-)
yes it is a figure of speech but it is also a lazy generalisation.
There's always been good and bad kids IMHO as well as basically good kids who sometimes act bad when drunk/on holiday/at football/in a crowd and that included some of us on here
Personally I think the bad kids today are allowed too much free rein and there is not enough of a deterrent either of being caught or being punished when they do. Yes, try and get kids to change but if they don't lock 'em up. I don't think going to prison will do them much good but it will get them off the streets and it might deter a few of their mates. Having spent a few weeks in prisons recently it certainly put me off
I don't think there are any easy answers but thinking that this is a new problem and that everything was rosy in the good old days doesn't help find whatever the answers are.