Agree- Such as my reusable whale bladder shopping bags.
Prime example - Almond milk. Absolutely awful environmental consequences. Production process is pretty bad when done on a large scale. Yet vegans drink the stuff by the gallon.
Please explain. If it's the water required I think you'll find cow's milk needs an order of magnitude more to be produced.
Agree- Such as my reusable whale bladder shopping bags.
Prime example - Almond milk. Absolutely awful environmental consequences. Production process is pretty bad when done on a large scale. Yet vegans drink the stuff by the gallon.
Please explain. If it's the water required I think you'll find cow's milk needs an order of magnitude more to be produced.
Cows are generally farmed where water is already plentiful. Almond production occurs in some of the worst drought spots in the world.
Agree- Such as my reusable whale bladder shopping bags.
Prime example - Almond milk. Absolutely awful environmental consequences. Production process is pretty bad when done on a large scale. Yet vegans drink the stuff by the gallon.
Please explain. If it's the water required I think you'll find cow's milk needs an order of magnitude more to be produced.
Cows are generally farmed where water is already plentiful. Almond production occurs in some of the worst drought spots in the world.
But California, where most of the world's almonds are farmed, uses way more water for it's dairy industry. By volume almonds use only a small percentage of the water required for cow's milk.
Agree- Such as my reusable whale bladder shopping bags.
Prime example - Almond milk. Absolutely awful environmental consequences. Production process is pretty bad when done on a large scale. Yet vegans drink the stuff by the gallon.
Please explain. If it's the water required I think you'll find cow's milk needs an order of magnitude more to be produced.
Cows are generally farmed where water is already plentiful. Almond production occurs in some of the worst drought spots in the world.
But California, where most of the world's almonds are farmed, uses way more water for it's dairy industry. By volume almonds use only a small percentage of the water required for cow's milk.
But the almond milk you'll find in your local supermarket will most likely have come from California, as opposed to the milk which I hope comes from a British dairy.
It is well documented why this has a much greater environmental impact, if you look at it from a non-biased view as opposed to an anti-dairy view.
I don't suppose that this is the first vote here for them.
I've just come off the telephone to my car insurer (having to change something at the behest of my company) - exasperated isn't the word....
The usual thing at the beginning, press such and such number to go through to another set of number choices and then maybe to the relevant department. Then enter your policy number to speed things up.... First question when someone answers:
"What's your policy number please....?" It deteriorated from there.
Having to take the middle cubicle of three in the work bogs after a long lunch meeting. I'm trying to dump and read CL in peace but I've got the sound of shitting in stereo. No joke, it sounds like I'm entombed in the creaking hull of a sinking warship
Having to take the middle cubicle of three in the work bogs after a long lunch meeting. I'm trying to dump and read CL in peace but I've got the sound of shitting in stereo. No joke, it sounds like I'm entombed in the creaking hull of a sinking warship
We have 3 cubicles for a floor of so many people and no urinals - so a constant queue, and because it's those 'full' cubicles (i.e. no gaps top/bottom) people take so long in there. I'm not sure if it's the anonymity of it or that they're relatively protected from the experience you describe above... but I don't know what they're doing in there; sleeping, doing their tax returns... could be anything. A poop takes <5 mins, maybe 7-8 mins tops if you went out for a ruby the night before. Was turtle-ing pretty badly this morning, a real near-miss.
Having to take the middle cubicle of three in the work bogs after a long lunch meeting. I'm trying to dump and read CL in peace but I've got the sound of shitting in stereo. No joke, it sounds like I'm entombed in the creaking hull of a sinking warship
Hate having a shit in the toilet when someone else is in there... Means I have to wait for them to be done and go before I can leave the cubicle because I dont want someone looking at me thinking "Stinky Bastard"
Having to take the middle cubicle of three in the work bogs after a long lunch meeting. I'm trying to dump and read CL in peace but I've got the sound of shitting in stereo. No joke, it sounds like I'm entombed in the creaking hull of a sinking warship
Hate having a shit in the toilet when someone else is in there... Means I have to wait for them to be done and go before I can leave the cubicle because I dont want someone looking at me thinking "Stinky Bastard"
I'm sure they were waiting for me. Both other cubicles were filled when I went in, and as soon as I sat down it was "bombs away" on either side.
Agree- Such as my reusable whale bladder shopping bags.
Prime example - Almond milk. Absolutely awful environmental consequences. Production process is pretty bad when done on a large scale. Yet vegans drink the stuff by the gallon.
Please explain. If it's the water required I think you'll find cow's milk needs an order of magnitude more to be produced.
Cows are generally farmed where water is already plentiful. Almond production occurs in some of the worst drought spots in the world.
But California, where most of the world's almonds are farmed, uses way more water for it's dairy industry. By volume almonds use only a small percentage of the water required for cow's milk.
But the almond milk you'll find in your local supermarket will most likely have come from California, as opposed to the milk which I hope comes from a British dairy.
It is well documented why this has a much greater environmental impact, if you look at it from a non-biased view as opposed to an anti-dairy view.
I'm sure there's an impact but in terms of water it's not anywhere near the impact of cow's milk. Out of interest do you only consume locally produced foods? Or just local dairy products?
Agree- Such as my reusable whale bladder shopping bags.
Prime example - Almond milk. Absolutely awful environmental consequences. Production process is pretty bad when done on a large scale. Yet vegans drink the stuff by the gallon.
Please explain. If it's the water required I think you'll find cow's milk needs an order of magnitude more to be produced.
Cows are generally farmed where water is already plentiful. Almond production occurs in some of the worst drought spots in the world.
But California, where most of the world's almonds are farmed, uses way more water for it's dairy industry. By volume almonds use only a small percentage of the water required for cow's milk.
But the almond milk you'll find in your local supermarket will most likely have come from California, as opposed to the milk which I hope comes from a British dairy.
It is well documented why this has a much greater environmental impact, if you look at it from a non-biased view as opposed to an anti-dairy view.
I'm sure there's an impact but in terms of water it's not anywhere near the impact of cow's milk. Out of interest do you only consume locally produced foods? Or just local dairy products?
I try to only buy British produce. I understand certain ingredients in certain products have to come from abroad but those products are not intended to be a costly substitute for a natural product.
As I said there is plenty of evidence why the local impact of almond produce is far more damaging than the general case of milk production.
Having to take the middle cubicle of three in the work bogs after a long lunch meeting. I'm trying to dump and read CL in peace but I've got the sound of shitting in stereo. No joke, it sounds like I'm entombed in the creaking hull of a sinking warship
Hate having a shit in the toilet when someone else is in there... Means I have to wait for them to be done and go before I can leave the cubicle because I dont want someone looking at me thinking "Stinky Bastard"
Same here.
One of the only times I thought that I'd go for it with someone else having a pee at the urinal, I expelled the loudest guff down the pan that you can imagine before the Richard emerged. It was like a car backfiring. I sat there in silence just praying for whoever it was to leave the toilet but it seemed like an eternity before he did. Once I had finished, I came back into the office with my mobile phone clearly on display on the pretence that I had been on a call and not that Mount Etna had just erupted.
Booking train tickets last thing yesterday for a meeting in Reading today then getting to the station this morning and realising I'd booked them for tomorrow by mistake. Dick.
Booking train tickets last thing yesterday for a meeting in Reading today then getting to the station this morning and realising I'd booked them for tomorrow by mistake. Dick.
People making broad assumptions about other people because of the car they drive. I drive an Audi and I don't think you could hope to meet a nicer person that also displays exemplary driving skills.
Agree- Such as my reusable whale bladder shopping bags.
Prime example - Almond milk. Absolutely awful environmental consequences. Production process is pretty bad when done on a large scale. Yet vegans drink the stuff by the gallon.
Please explain. If it's the water required I think you'll find cow's milk needs an order of magnitude more to be produced.
Cows are generally farmed where water is already plentiful. Almond production occurs in some of the worst drought spots in the world.
But California, where most of the world's almonds are farmed, uses way more water for it's dairy industry. By volume almonds use only a small percentage of the water required for cow's milk.
But the almond milk you'll find in your local supermarket will most likely have come from California, as opposed to the milk which I hope comes from a British dairy.
It is well documented why this has a much greater environmental impact, if you look at it from a non-biased view as opposed to an anti-dairy view.
I'm sure there's an impact but in terms of water it's not anywhere near the impact of cow's milk. Out of interest do you only consume locally produced foods? Or just local dairy products?
I try to only buy British produce. I understand certain ingredients in certain products have to come from abroad but those products are not intended to be a costly substitute for a natural product.
As I said there is plenty of evidence why the local impact of almond produce is far more damaging than the general case of milk production.
That's just not true. The environmental impact of dairy production is immense. Apart from water there is the leeching of vaccines and antibiotics into the aquifer. There is the problem of disposing of dead dairy cattle. There is more but I'm supposed to be working and my boss is giving me her stare at the moment. So back to kpi's.
Booking train tickets last thing yesterday for a meeting in Reading today then getting to the station this morning and realising I'd booked them for tomorrow by mistake. Dick.
Yesterday, today was tomorrow.
Think he means that he booked them yesterday (Tues) to travel today (Weds) but has actually booked them for tomorrow (Thurs)
Having to take the middle cubicle of three in the work bogs after a long lunch meeting. I'm trying to dump and read CL in peace but I've got the sound of shitting in stereo. No joke, it sounds like I'm entombed in the creaking hull of a sinking warship
Hate having a shit in the toilet when someone else is in there... Means I have to wait for them to be done and go before I can leave the cubicle because I dont want someone looking at me thinking "Stinky Bastard"
Same here.
One of the only times I thought that I'd go for it with someone else having a pee at the urinal, I expelled the loudest guff down the pan that you can imagine before the Richard emerged. It was like a car backfiring. I sat there in silence just praying for whoever it was to leave the toilet but it seemed like an eternity before he did. Once I had finished, I came back into the office with my mobile phone clearly on display on the pretence that I had been on a call and not that Mount Etna had just erupted.
The worst thing is when someone follows me into the toilet OR when someone is already in the toilet that I know... Usually I'll have to try and clench my arse to try and stop the shit until they've gone else they'll know its me thats done the stench
Motorway service stations that aren't actually on the motorway (e.g. Banbury Services on the M40). I have wasted literally minutes of my life because of this nonsense.
Having to take the middle cubicle of three in the work bogs after a long lunch meeting. I'm trying to dump and read CL in peace but I've got the sound of shitting in stereo. No joke, it sounds like I'm entombed in the creaking hull of a sinking warship
Hate having a shit in the toilet when someone else is in there... Means I have to wait for them to be done and go before I can leave the cubicle because I dont want someone looking at me thinking "Stinky Bastard"
Same here.
One of the only times I thought that I'd go for it with someone else having a pee at the urinal, I expelled the loudest guff down the pan that you can imagine before the Richard emerged. It was like a car backfiring. I sat there in silence just praying for whoever it was to leave the toilet but it seemed like an eternity before he did. Once I had finished, I came back into the office with my mobile phone clearly on display on the pretence that I had been on a call and not that Mount Etna had just erupted.
The worst thing is when someone follows me into the toilet OR when someone is already in the toilet that I know... Usually I'll have to try and clench my arse to try and stop the shit until they've gone else they'll know its me thats done the stench
Nothing worse than being robbed of toilet anonymity, sometimes you realise that you're accidentally the 'follow-er' on the way to the bogs and they don't know about it. You're robbed them of that right to poop anonymously... and they don't even know it!
Motorway service stations that aren't actually on the motorway (e.g. Banbury Services on the M40). I have wasted literally minutes of my life because of this nonsense.
There are a lot of Service Stations like that now... Lakeside | Folkestone | Cobham and one along the M6 Toll Road have you coming off the Motorway, round a half-dozen roundabouts before you finally get into the car park!!
Then you have to do it all over again on the way out!!
Motorway service stations that aren't actually on the motorway (e.g. Banbury Services on the M40). I have wasted literally minutes of my life because of this nonsense.
There are a lot of Service Stations like that now... Lakeside | Folkestone | Cobham and one along the M6 Toll Road have you coming off the Motorway, round a half-dozen roundabouts before you finally get into the car park!!
Then you have to do it all over again on the way out!!
And then you miss the food bit and end up in the petrol station before the exit. Fuck. Wild Bean it is.
Agree- Such as my reusable whale bladder shopping bags.
Prime example - Almond milk. Absolutely awful environmental consequences. Production process is pretty bad when done on a large scale. Yet vegans drink the stuff by the gallon.
Please explain. If it's the water required I think you'll find cow's milk needs an order of magnitude more to be produced.
Cows are generally farmed where water is already plentiful. Almond production occurs in some of the worst drought spots in the world.
But California, where most of the world's almonds are farmed, uses way more water for it's dairy industry. By volume almonds use only a small percentage of the water required for cow's milk.
But the almond milk you'll find in your local supermarket will most likely have come from California, as opposed to the milk which I hope comes from a British dairy.
It is well documented why this has a much greater environmental impact, if you look at it from a non-biased view as opposed to an anti-dairy view.
I'm sure there's an impact but in terms of water it's not anywhere near the impact of cow's milk. Out of interest do you only consume locally produced foods? Or just local dairy products?
I try to only buy British produce. I understand certain ingredients in certain products have to come from abroad but those products are not intended to be a costly substitute for a natural product.
As I said there is plenty of evidence why the local impact of almond produce is far more damaging than the general case of milk production.
That's just not true. The environmental impact of dairy production is immense. Apart from water there is the leeching of vaccines and antibiotics into the aquifer. There is the problem of disposing of dead dairy cattle. There is more but I'm supposed to be working and my boss is giving me her stare at the moment. So back to kpi's.
Well it is true, I've seen the evidence to prove it.
What do you think the environmental impact is of supplying Californians with enough water because almond production is sapping what little water there is?
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He passed away 16 years ago and she still says it but now it winds me up!
If it's the water required I think you'll find cow's milk needs an order of magnitude more to be produced.
It is well documented why this has a much greater environmental impact, if you look at it from a non-biased view as opposed to an anti-dairy view.
(There are many other things about him but that really stands out)
I don't suppose that this is the first vote here for them.
I've just come off the telephone to my car insurer (having to change something at the behest of my company) - exasperated isn't the word....
The usual thing at the beginning, press such and such number to go through to another set of number choices and then maybe to the relevant department. Then enter your policy number to speed things up.... First question when someone answers:
"What's your policy number please....?" It deteriorated from there.
Out of interest do you only consume locally produced foods? Or just local dairy products?
As I said there is plenty of evidence why the local impact of almond produce is far more damaging than the general case of milk production.
One of the only times I thought that I'd go for it with someone else having a pee at the urinal, I expelled the loudest guff down the pan that you can imagine before the Richard emerged. It was like a car backfiring. I sat there in silence just praying for whoever it was to leave the toilet but it seemed like an eternity before he did. Once I had finished, I came back into the office with my mobile phone clearly on display on the pretence that I had been on a call and not that Mount Etna had just erupted.
Yesterday, today was tomorrow.
I know what you did in there, Julian. I know.
Then you have to do it all over again on the way out!!
What do you think the environmental impact is of supplying Californians with enough water because almond production is sapping what little water there is?