Just got back.....(although I am ranting Andy Gray scores and we win 3 or 4 with ease).
What can you say?. We have lost to a team that I wouldn't even consider to be good enough to be refered to as one dimensional. I'll accept the Wolves game, they are flying and played us off the park. Weds were shite. We weren't much better. Weds had nothing but a hoof it forward and hope for the best mentality and we didn't have an answer.
To say we missed a hatful of chances is wide of the mark.
We had an awful lot of the ball in their half but time and time again the delivery was dire. I have been thinking that Varney looked like he might need a game on the bench, but to be fair to him he was the only one to put in a shift today.
Primus looked ok but a distinct lack of understanding with Hudson - summed up by the "after you, no after you old chap" routine for the first goal. Hudson has his worst game so far. Probably his only stinker to be fair.
Both fullbacks were terrible. Youga is getting worse and worse. I actually rated him quite highly. His distribution is nothing short of criminal. How many times did he hoof the ball into touch when trying to find Bouazza?. His football brain isn't up to much either - ball juggling 20 yards from goal when we are 2-1 down?.
Cranie is nothing special - perhaps he is a CB I don't know. He certainly isn't committed to the cause. Twice he looked like he fancied pulling out of 50/50 challenges. He offers nothing going forward.
Talking of offering nothing - Lloyd Sam.......if he was a race horse surely he would have been shot by now?. I just don't get it with him. No end product, no crossing ability and the strength of a feather. Please Pards drop him for Ambrose.
Talking of Pardew - some baffling tactical moves today. The worst of which saw Youga (who was already having an appalling game) move to RB to accomodate Basey. Why?. If Cranie was injured surely Semedo should be on?.
I am not one for rumours but I really think something is goinbg on with Zheng. Not fit my arse......
Back to 4-5-1 on Tuesday and a backs to the wall 0-0?
Mid table and mediocre this season - if we are lucky.
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Youga i just don't know about, his passing is generally abysmal and in to touch but then occasionally he hits a great ball (like in the first half when he nutmegged one of their players playig the ball to Bouazza).
Who reckons we could move Pardew 'upstairs' as Directof of football? Don't thikn he would accept it but in my opinion he can find great players on the transfer market (i know he has bought some duds but so does every manager), his big problem is that he gets nothing out of them on the pitch and his tactics are baffling, i mean Holland as Centre Back when you have Cranie on the pitch!! We could then bring in an older manager who is tactically astute. Just look at the players...Youga - came back from Scunthorpe looking great, now average at best, Bailey, looked a world beater in his first couple of games, today just passed him buy, Varney - 27 goals in one season for Crewe, now 'a hard worker', Grey - top Championship scorer for Burnley,,,now poor...
LOL! ..... Made me literally laugh out loud...!!!
Poor old Sam, improve your crossing or it's the slaughterhouse for you.
I even feel a bit sorry for him.
He beat some defenders and crossed the ball for a change.
Those are just rumours
What can you say?. We have lost to a team that I wouldn't even consider to be good enough to be refered to as one dimensional. I'll accept the Wolves game, they are flying and played us off the park. Weds were shite. We weren't much better. Weds had nothing but a hoof it forward and hope for the best mentality and we didn't have an answer.
To say we missed a hatful of chances is wide of the mark.
We had an awful lot of the ball in their half but time and time again the delivery was dire. I have been thinking that Varney looked like he might need a game on the bench, but to be fair to him he was the only one to put in a shift today.
Primus looked ok but a distinct lack of understanding with Hudson - summed up by the "after you, no after you old chap" routine for the first goal. Hudson has his worst game so far. Probably his only stinker to be fair.
Both fullbacks were terrible. Youga is getting worse and worse. I actually rated him quite highly. His distribution is nothing short of criminal. How many times did he hoof the ball into touch when trying to find Bouazza?. His football brain isn't up to much either - ball juggling 20 yards from goal when we are 2-1 down?.
Cranie is nothing special - perhaps he is a CB I don't know. He certainly isn't committed to the cause. Twice he looked like he fancied pulling out of 50/50 challenges. He offers nothing going forward.
Talking of offering nothing - Lloyd Sam.......if he was a race horse surely he would have been shot by now?. I just don't get it with him. No end product, no crossing ability and the strength of a feather. Please Pards drop him for Ambrose.
Talking of Pardew - some baffling tactical moves today. The worst of which saw Youga (who was already having an appalling game) move to RB to accomodate Basey. Why?. If Cranie was injured surely Semedo should be on?.
I am not one for rumours but I really think something is goinbg on with Zheng. Not fit my arse......
Back to 4-5-1 on Tuesday and a backs to the wall 0-0?
Mid table and mediocre this season - if we are lucky.[/quote]
I really didn't think we played that badly. Weds had 3 shots all game. We should have battered them. Hudson had a shocker and cost us the game, along with the wayward finishing. Why he escorted Small into the area to score rather than putting in a tackle, I'll never know.
I thought Primus was excellent in the first half and to describe Youga as terrible today baffles me. He combined well with Bouzza several times. I think you're harsh on Sam too, who had a great shot well saved.
I know we lost but I still think that we're going in the right direction.
I actually think we should drop the wingers and put in a diamond midfield. ZZ and Bailey inside. Wow look at me the next Terry Venables.
My team for Tues :
Weaver
Semedo/Crainie Hudson Primus Youga
Basey
Bailey ZZ
Ambrose
Varney Todorov
1. First goal, the lack of a decison between Hudson and Youga was horrible, just dump the bloke and take a card if needs be, but nothing done, and 1-1
2. Bailey 10 seconds before the second goal trying to do something clever when something simple was needed, he'll learn
3. Hudson deciding not to tackle or go to Tudgay, nothing done 2-1.
and as for Gray miss, jesus, take a touch
To me basically, it was 'one of those days'. The painfully frustrating thing though was it was 'yet ANOTHER one of those days'.
Good call on the team, although would have Moo2 rather than Semedo.
Not a fan of Sam but thought he was excellent today. Primus was good and was not involved in the first goal conceded that was Youga, also thought Holland played well, although his cameo at CB was bizarre, slow, short and can't tackle =ideal CB
We've got no given right to beat anyone. You have to go out and do a shift and earn it. What disheartens me is i really do think they put it in today.
I just hope we go into Tuesday with the same attitude, but also show there is a bit more about us at the same time.
I thought Sam had one of his better games today. Always an outlet, troubled their full back and got some good crosses over.
Gray for me doesn't do enough, yes he's the top scorer but he's terrible. Not sure we'll get 90 out of Todorov on tuesday but he'd be a better bet. Where was Dickson today? Sub all season then suddenly Todorov has jumped ahead of him.
However all that said on another day i think we could've won 2 or 3-0. We hit the post twice and could've been out of sight before they scored. In fact if we'd got a 2nd they may well have folded like they did at Reading the other week. Unfortunately for us, they got the 2nd goal and gained confidence and belief.
I know Wednesday were bad but i'd feel a whole lot worse going to Palace on tuesday if we'd been played off the park and thumped 4-0. I'd like to think today was just one of those days and i'm sure we'll be fired up and ready to go on Tuesday night.
One other thing i'd like to add is if you're either of the 2 complete idiots who sit in the north upper, H block, row HH (i think), don't bother turning up next week. These 2 morons never get behind the team, didn't even stand up or cheer when we scored, actually seemed happier when Wednesday scored as it meant they could moan and boo, and shouted a load of abuse at Pardew after their goals (when as i've already said, we can hardly blame him for basic defensive errors). If you want quality attacking football and to see your team win every week then f*ck off to Man Utd or Chelsea because quite frankly your 'support' isn't needed at the Valley.
it happens. the team were working hard and SW stuck everything in a blue/white shirt behind the ball in the second half and they did their job well.
Yes I am a bit annoyed that we didn't win, but it wasn't for lack of effort.
Games like that happen (arsenal lost in similar circumstances today), that is why football is such a great game.
The sun was shining, the football was entertaining if not ultimately satisfying, life really isn't that bad.
agree with you there nss.
we haven't got a decent full back in our squad, the wide players decide to turn up once a month, some people on here were saying fortune shouldn't play (well you've got your wish for another 5 weeks, lets see if you feel the same then), even if varney and gray get 25 goals between them where are the other 30 gonna come from to keep us out of a relegation scrap?
we haven't taken a single point off any team that was in this division last year, with that in mind are we any better prepared than this time last year.
but we are still 5th 14th.
I agree with all of that. On another day, without playing any better or worse we would have beaten them easily. I wondered about the sun factor in the first half, I think it made us somewhat tentative.
Hudson did have a poor game but lets go after him too much because he has been brilliant so far. I think we missed Fortune and the indecisiveness when it mattered, showed. Youga played well, maybe he was part of the collective mistake for the first goal but that aside and three wayward passes, he had a good game.
Sheff Weds - not a pretty team to watch but it goes to show what can happen if you get given a few opportunities and convert them.
The booing at the half time whistle was uncalled for - we don't have a divine right to winning (as Smudge said).
There are 38 games left so thats plenty of time to either make a decent stab at it or completely fecking it up.
The customary win at Palace will lift the gloom for a few hours :)
At the moment we are not very good but it certainly does not stop me from enjoying the day which I certainly did.
Manc