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Worst five signings since we got back to The Valley

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  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    iaitch said:
    LenGlover said:
    Hard to pick just 5 really.

    1. Bent M

    2. Gray

    3. Traore

    4. Redfearn

    5. Varney L

    I've based my selection on end product against expectation for the money paid. There are a number of others but these are the five that came to mind.
    Can’t argue with this. 
    Luke Varney has a golden pass as he scored winning goals against Palace.

    Same for Rommedahl, Todorov and Kitson. 
    And Matt Spring.
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,245
    Forgot that one but has a golden pass now.
  • Any 5 simply have to be from the early days of the Roland era.

    Mine would be:

    Koc
    Thuram
    Lepoint
    Nego
    Onyewu

    All utterly pointless signings.
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,175
    Rommedahl may have disappointed us. However 110 full caps for Denmark suggests that it might not have been because he was useless.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,148
    1.Polish Pete
    2.Thuram
    3.Lepoint
    4.Vaz Te
    5.Roger Johnson

    Pre-Roland:

    1.Rommedahl
    2.Hasselbaink
    3.Jeffers
    4.Traore
    5.McLeod
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,729
    1.Polish Pete
    2.Thuram
    3.Lepoint
    4.Vaz Te
    5.Roger Johnson

    Pre-Roland:

    1.Rommedahl
    2.Hasselbaink
    3.Jeffers
    4.Traore
    5.McLeod
    Rommedahl was a big disappointment but certainly not in the Top 5 worst signings

  • SheedyCAFC
    SheedyCAFC Posts: 1,253
    edited April 2019
    Salim Kerkar
    Mikel Alonso
    Piotr Parzyszek
    Anil Koc
    Yohann Thuram

    - Edit, forgot about Lepoint & Nego!
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,348
    1.Polish Pete
    2.Thuram
    3.Lepoint
    4.Vaz Te
    5.Roger Johnson

    Pre-Roland:

    1.Rommedahl
    2.Hasselbaink
    3.Jeffers
    4.Traore
    5.McLeod
    Won more penalties for Charlton than any player, other than Colin Powell.
  • 1.Piotr Parzyszek

    2.Yohann Thuram

    3.Roger Johnson

    4.Demba Ba

    5. Jimmy Floyd Hasslebank

  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,245
    Not sure Demba Ba played for us, El Hadji Ba did and has been mentioned.

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  • Quite right my mistake  I did of course mean El Hadji Ba !
  • Sillybilly
    Sillybilly Posts: 9,238
    Chizz said:
    1.Polish Pete
    2.Thuram
    3.Lepoint
    4.Vaz Te
    5.Roger Johnson

    Pre-Roland:

    1.Rommedahl
    2.Hasselbaink
    3.Jeffers
    4.Traore
    5.McLeod
    Won more penalties for Charlton than any player, other than Colin Powell.
    Yup. But he was a truly awful player, especially as he came with such a reputation. Made Ajose look like Messi. 
  • Salim Kerkar
    Mikel Alonso
    Piotr Parzyszek
    Anil Koc
    Yohann Thuram

    - Edit, forgot about Lepoint & Nego!
    Understandable.
  • Rossman92
    Rossman92 Posts: 3,658
    edited April 2019
    Makienok should be nowhere near this list. 
    Brought in to score goals alongside Igor in a season where we were favorites to be promoted (What a thought), and bagged 5 in 37 appearances. Frustrating for me but did score vs Hull and assist for JBG's winner so I'll give him props for that. Only positive from that whole season
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Rossman92 said:
    Makienok should be nowhere near this list. 
    Brought in to score goals alongside Igor in a season where we were favorites to be promoted (What a thought), and bagged 5 in 37 appearances. Frustrating for me but did score vs Hull and assist for JBG's winner so I'll give him props for that. Only positive from that whole season
    Rotherham away?

    Can't find a mention of Super Alan Pardew's super star signing Dean Sinclair? 
  • Rossman92
    Rossman92 Posts: 3,658
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Rossman92 said:
    Makienok should be nowhere near this list. 
    Brought in to score goals alongside Igor in a season where we were favorites to be promoted (What a thought), and bagged 5 in 37 appearances. Frustrating for me but did score vs Hull and assist for JBG's winner so I'll give him props for that. Only positive from that whole season
    Rotherham away?

    Can't find a mention of Super Alan Pardew's super star signing Dean Sinclair? 

    Rotherham was a good performance yeah. I still expected more from a 6 foot 7 striker with caps for Denmark
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,148
    1.Polish Pete
    2.Thuram
    3.Lepoint
    4.Vaz Te
    5.Roger Johnson

    Pre-Roland:

    1.Rommedahl
    2.Hasselbaink
    3.Jeffers
    4.Traore
    5.McLeod
    Rommedahl was a big disappointment but certainly not in the Top 5 worst signings

    With the reputation he came with  I think he was. Lazy player too. Wycombe cup game always springs to mind. 
  • MrLargo
    MrLargo Posts: 7,993
    1.Polish Pete
    2.Thuram
    3.Lepoint
    4.Vaz Te
    5.Roger Johnson

    Pre-Roland:

    1.Rommedahl
    2.Hasselbaink
    3.Jeffers
    4.Traore
    5.McLeod
    Rommedahl was a big disappointment but certainly not in the Top 5 worst signings

    With the reputation he came with  I think he was. Lazy player too. Wycombe cup game always springs to mind. 
    How can he possibly feature on a 5 worst signings list ahead of Hasselbaink, Faye, Traore, Spector, Francis, McCormack, Stuart Fleetwood, Dean Sinclair, Martin Cranie, Martin Christenson, McLeod etc, etc, etc, etc. 

    Rommedahl shouldn't be anywhere near this thread. I am bewildered that you think he should be.
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,218
    For me worst signings is different to worst players, so I'm basing mine on the negative effect they had on the club when they signed.

    Amdy Faye - Dowie was right that we needed a combative midfielder. Why he picked just about the worst one going with a proven track record of being crap in the Premier League I will never know. Was a key part of the 'overspend on crap' policy that has ultimately led us to where we are now by crippling our finances while relegating us. Probably the number one in terms of the effect it had on us long-term. Nearly £3m he was!

    Piotr Parzyszek - Ostensibly the replacement for Yann. Yann! The frustrating thing is he came relatively highly recommended because Sporting were apparently in for him, but he wasn't anywhere near capable of playing in the Championship and we barely survived by the skin of our teeth, which he contributed nothing to. One of the first signings that truly encapsulated the Roland method of selling our best players and replacing them with work experience kids.

    Reza - The Champions League level player we were told we would get from our partnership with Standard. Reza was supposedly not quite good enough to be playing regularly at the top of the Belgian first division, but more than good enough to cause some serious damage in the Championship. With players like him signing we would be strolling out of relegation trouble. Not only was he rubbish, he couldn't care less most of the time and threw himself on the floor every time a player looked in his direction. Culminated in him getting sent off once because he felt like it. Bell.

    Roger Johnson (pt.2) - While we were drowning in relegation mire we brought back a player we had decided had been helpful but not quite good enough to stay the previous season, with him a year older and having struggled to look good in India. We ended up bringing in six (SIX!) defenders in that transfer window period because it was clear about 30 seconds into Big Roge's comeback that he wasn't going to cut it. The relegation to League One that followed was unsurprising, so was him swearing at the fans for being unhappy with his soul-destroying performances.

    Martin Cranie - Possibly my least favourite ever Charlton player, epitomised the tail end of the Pardew reign. I despised a lot of defenders we had around that time, but Cranie was everything bad about Pardew's transfer strategy: bring in players with 'potential' (Cranie was 21, is now 32 and has played for 11 different clubs, with no-one willing to pay a fee for him since 2009) on loan who couldn't really care less either way if the club went down or not. We made 11 loan signings that season, which just laid out Pardew's panic stricken inability to man manage once things had started going sideways. He played 19 dreadful times and then buggered off before January leaving us to replace him and too much to do to save ourselves.

    Honourable mentions to: Patrick McCarthy (cart horse when we should have been looking to bounce back), Andy Gray (mitigating circumstances there, but Jesus..), Hasselbaink (fat useless lump hoovering up money), Rhys Williams (like Roger Johnson but less offensive), Ricardo Vaz Te (skinny Jimmy-Floyd in terms of product, but even Jimmy managed a goal.)
  • IR94
    IR94 Posts: 776
    Hard to make a list for this as we have seen such a differing quality, from prem to league 1, so it can be quite hard to include a prem player as they surely would show something in league 1, so I went with:

    Borrowdale
    Matt Spring
    Frank Nouble
    Pawel Abbott
    all these players even struggled in the dizzy heights of league 1 football and:
    Thuram (how is he a goalkeeper)

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  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,218
    IR94 said:
    Hard to make a list for this as we have seen such a differing quality, from prem to league 1, so it can be quite hard to include a prem player as they surely would show something in league 1, so I went with:

    Borrowdale
    Matt Spring
    Frank Nouble
    Pawel Abbott
    all these players even struggled in the dizzy heights of league 1 football and:
    Thuram (how is he a goalkeeper)
    I feel bad for Borrowdale making these lists. We had no money and we brought in a player, apparently out of Parky's pocket, who filled in the left back spot and gave us a bit of stability. Given the fact that the level of player we could afford was whatever the manager made after tax, he was as good as he could possibly have been, he worked hard and he meant we at least finally had a LB. Just look at the Oxford match to see how much it can hurt not having a specialist player in that position. He wasn't good, but I think he improved us more than he hindered given the circumstances. I'd actually say he was a good signing.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,148
    MrLargo said:
    1.Polish Pete
    2.Thuram
    3.Lepoint
    4.Vaz Te
    5.Roger Johnson

    Pre-Roland:

    1.Rommedahl
    2.Hasselbaink
    3.Jeffers
    4.Traore
    5.McLeod
    Rommedahl was a big disappointment but certainly not in the Top 5 worst signings

    With the reputation he came with  I think he was. Lazy player too. Wycombe cup game always springs to mind. 
    How can he possibly feature on a 5 worst signings list ahead of Hasselbaink, Faye, Traore, Spector, Francis, McCormack, Stuart Fleetwood, Dean Sinclair, Martin Cranie, Martin Christenson, McLeod etc, etc, etc, etc. 

    Rommedahl shouldn't be anywhere near this thread. I am bewildered that you think he should be.
    It's all relative. He came with a big reputation and didn't come close to living up to it. One of the laziest players I've ever seen. 
  • Cardinal Sin
    Cardinal Sin Posts: 5,233
    Terrible memories returning here, many of which my mind had blanked out to ease the pain. I think my worst five are adequately represented  but struggle to see how anyone can include Rommedahl, Spector or Bartlett. Rommedahl was a disappointment but hardly a 'worst' candidate. Spector improved with experience and Bartlett was outstanding. All three competed in the top flight when we have a back catalogue of ineptitude at lower division level. Dowie was guilty of a slew of hurried big money signings of players not capable of Premiership quality but my five worsts would all come from the steaming pile of cack we have been handed under Duchatelet. 

  • cafcnick1992
    cafcnick1992 Posts: 7,446
    Rossman92 said:
    Makienok should be nowhere near this list. 
    Brought in to score goals alongside Igor in a season where we were favorites to be promoted (What a thought), and bagged 5 in 37 appearances. Frustrating for me but did score vs Hull and assist for JBG's winner so I'll give him props for that. Only positive from that whole season
    Had two outstanding games where he was a clear MOTM.

    Home Vs Hull, and away to Rotherham.


  • I still laugh when I think about Christophe LePoint - I remember he came off the bench and just ran about like a loon never getting anywhere near the ball! That was 900K well spent! 
  • Anybody who includes Dennis Rommedahl in this needs their fecking head examined.
  • charltonkeston
    charltonkeston Posts: 7,374
    Whenever anybody doubts if he could have made it as a professional, just think of Thuram. Playing for Charlton when he did was just down to chance, luck and being able to tie bootlaces. (Also having a delusional owner that thinks he’s a reincarnation of Alan Turing helps)
  • I never rated Carl Tiler. 
    The other 4 would probably be post-Curbs.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Didn't Curbs try and sign Faye and Traore in the January but couldn't get the deals over the line? 
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,057
    I never rated Carl Tiler. 
    The other 4 would probably be post-Curbs.
    Given time I feel confident I could come up with at least one hundred players worse than Carl Tiler.