Some horrible memories here, Cranie was one I particularly remember, people just seemed to run through him, no physical presence at all. I had an old goals video, and Brazils goal against us in 1970 was on it, the commentator said "....and Banks was but a lace curtain in the path of Jairzinhos bullet" Cranie was our lace curtain.....
We have had many poor players with most mentioned on this thread already. However many gave 100% and just were not up to it, or it was bad timing etc so i struggle to really call them out. For me, those i reserve special ire for
1. By a country mile has to be Amady Faye - my most hated Charlton player of all time. Still vividly remember the Quarter Final v Wycombe at The Valley when we were losing and he kicked the ball into touch on a pass and just shrugged his shoulders.
2. Thuram was undoubtedly the worst player i have ever seen play for my team.
3. McLeod was a huge disappointment for the money and totally un-Charlton in his constant Palace like diving for pens.
4. Guy Luzon - when Roland was still interested enough to pay transfer fees he bought in a manager who had failed at mediocre levels previously and been seen on camera saying he did not know who we were and laughing. The worst Charlton manager bar none for me.
5. Faeye - so bad i cant even remember his first name! Massively out of his depth, added nothing, sealed our relegation
Haven't bothered with this thread after somebody included Sean Bartlett FFS! And then you get XXXXX apart from when he .......... What a load of tosh!!!!!
If they only scored 1 goal or 1 assist then I can’t see how they would be in the worst 5 ever. I know people don’t like the likes of Marcus Bent, Hasselbaink etc but they are nowhere near the worst 5. Even they had 1-2 good games that keep them off the list.
Yohann Thuram has to be number 1 for me. A player that was so pointless, the manager didn’t even want to play him.
That game against QPR....The only time I’ve seen a goalkeeper have an absolute mare whilst the opposing team recorded zero shots on target. Not sure how that is even possible, but he did it.
Dont think he was a bad signing... Just unfortunate really as wasnt that at a time when International games were played all over the place with some Confederations rather than there being set breaks - Meant that Bagheri was having to go and play for Iran when we had games
1. Roland 2. Katrien Meire 3. Amdy Faye 4. Losing the atmosphere of the old covered end 5. Simon Francis (then leaving and captaining Bournemouth in the Prem)
Re Nouble, didn't he come from Wet Spam? If so, you have to wonder what they were doing signing him in the first place. Similarly, early years back at The Valley, we had a guy from Spurs who was pretty bad for us so what the hell did he do at WHL, make the teas?
Re Nouble, didn't he come from Wet Spam? If so, you have to wonder what they were doing signing him in the first place. Similarly, early years back at The Valley, we had a guy from Spurs who was pretty bad for us so what the hell did he do at WHL, make the teas?
Yeah he came from there but came through their youth team
If they only scored 1 goal or 1 assist then I can’t see how they would be in the worst 5 ever. I know people don’t like the likes of Marcus Bent, Hasselbaink etc but they are nowhere near the worst 5. Even they had 1-2 good games that keep them off the list.
Yohann Thuram has to be number 1 for me. A player that was so pointless, the manager didn’t even want to play him.
That game against QPR....The only time I’ve seen a goalkeeper have an absolute mare whilst the opposing team recorded zero shots on target. Not sure how that is even possible, but he did it.
Depends on your perception of a bad signing really. Thuram would have been number one for me if we hadn't already had two (then one) first team ready goalkeepers to make him an irrelevance. Alnwick and Hamer were there and didn't get injured, so Thuram only played four games, and despite his best efforts didn't even cost us the QPR win. Hasselbaink cost us loads on his high wages and played 25 Premier League games, scoring 2 goals in a season where we desperately needed goals and ultimately lost our PL status, which we've never got back. Definitely a worse signing for the effect it had. Goes to perception in the end
The thing about Thuram is that he made 44 appearances for Standard Liege, 28 for Le Havre and has 2 French U21 caps.
Not many appearances, but enough and at a high enough level to suggest he shouldn't have been as bad as he was when he played for us.
Powell being forced to play him didn't do anyone any good, least of all the player. If he had just come over and trained here for a few months, maybe when he did play he would have been more convincing.
Surprised at some of the players listed here - some seem to have forgotten the division we were in when certain players were signed.
Never understood why McCormack is included - seems to be more about personal dislike? He was certainly average but didn't stand out as particularly bad.
Faye stood out given what we paid for him and his continued poor performances.
Thuram is certainly one of the worst keepers I've seen - I remember watching him warm up at the Valley and he seemed incapable of catching the ball.
The Parzysek signing was bizarre - seems to have scored goals elsewhere but wasn't even deemed good enough to start at Charlton.
Surprised at some of the players listed here - some seem to have forgotten the division we were in when certain players were signed.
Never understood why McCormack is included - seems to be more about personal dislike? He was certainly average but didn't stand out as particularly bad.
Faye stood out given what we paid for him and his continued poor performances.
Thuram is certainly one of the worst keepers I've seen - I remember watching him warm up at the Valley and he seemed incapable of catching the ball.
The Parzysek signing was bizarre - seems to have scored goals elsewhere but wasn't even deemed good enough to start at Charlton.
Could be playing Champions League Football next season
His Polish club are currently four points off top (currently in a Europa League position) in the Championship round of the Polish Premier Division
Only has seven goals this season but think his issue (going by reports from those who attend) was the fact that he struggled to adapt to the English game and didnt show much about him for our U23s - I'll always remain convinced that he should have been loaned to English clubs to help him adjust, the fact he kept being farmed out to Belgium and Denmark was never going to help him get used to the level here
Anybody who includes Dennis Rommedahl in this needs their fecking head examined.
Just an opinion
Where's the logic, Red? You might have grounds for a discussion if it were 5 disappointing signings or 5 that didn't live up to (unrealistic) expectations. But worst 5? Jeez.
Anybody who includes Dennis Rommedahl in this needs their fecking head examined.
Just an opinion
Where's the logic, Red? You might have grounds for a discussion if it were 5 disappointing signings or 5 that didn't live up to (unrealistic) expectations. But worst 5? Jeez.
But it means that, at minimum, at least all-but-four of the players introduced under Driesen were better than Dennis Rommedahl.
I don't think anyone could possibly argue that. Even Mowgli himself.
Anybody who includes Dennis Rommedahl in this needs their fecking head examined.
Just an opinion
Where's the logic, Red? You might have grounds for a discussion if it were 5 disappointing signings or 5 that didn't live up to (unrealistic) expectations. But worst 5? Jeez.
But it means that, at minimum, at least all-but-four of the players introduced under Driesen were better than Dennis Rommedahl.
I don't think anyone could possibly argue that. Even Mowgli himself.
Anybody who includes Dennis Rommedahl in this needs their fecking head examined.
Just an opinion
Where's the logic, Red? You might have grounds for a discussion if it were 5 disappointing signings or 5 that didn't live up to (unrealistic) expectations. But worst 5? Jeez.
But it means that, at minimum, at least all-but-four of the players introduced under Driesen were better than Dennis Rommedahl.
I don't think anyone could possibly argue that. Even Mowgli himself.
You make my head hurt Chizz.
"If Dennis was one of the worst five, then nearly all of Roland's signings must have been better than him".
Anybody who includes Dennis Rommedahl in this needs their fecking head examined.
Just an opinion
Where's the logic, Red? You might have grounds for a discussion if it were 5 disappointing signings or 5 that didn't live up to (unrealistic) expectations. But worst 5? Jeez.
But it means that, at minimum, at least all-but-four of the players introduced under Driesen were better than Dennis Rommedahl.
I don't think anyone could possibly argue that. Even Mowgli himself.
You make my head hurt Chizz.
"If Dennis was one of the worst five, then nearly all of Roland's signings must have been better than him".
Completely understand all the points, and I probably have been harsh on Rommedah,l and maybe he belongs more in disappointing signings, but when I said 'worst' in no way do I think he's the worst player to play for outside of the Roland era. Relatively speaking, he massively under performed compared to the reputation he came with and a lot of his performances.
And to this point:
"If Dennis was one of the worst five, then nearly all of Roland's signings must have been better than him".
I did a separate ranking of the worst five in the Roland era, so that's not what I was saying at all.
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I went to the game and don't even remember some of them playing.
1. By a country mile has to be Amady Faye - my most hated Charlton player of all time. Still vividly remember the Quarter Final v Wycombe at The Valley when we were losing and he kicked the ball into touch on a pass and just shrugged his shoulders.
2. Thuram was undoubtedly the worst player i have ever seen play for my team.
3. McLeod was a huge disappointment for the money and totally un-Charlton in his constant Palace like diving for pens.
4. Guy Luzon - when Roland was still interested enough to pay transfer fees he bought in a manager who had failed at mediocre levels previously and been seen on camera saying he did not know who we were and laughing. The worst Charlton manager bar none for me.
5. Faeye - so bad i cant even remember his first name! Massively out of his depth, added nothing, sealed our relegation
Faye
Redfearn
Jeffers
M.Bent
Seabourne
Lepoint
Cranie
Thuram-Ulien
R Williams
Yohann Thuram has to be number 1 for me. A player that was so pointless, the manager didn’t even want to play him.
That game against QPR....The only time I’ve seen a goalkeeper have an absolute mare whilst the opposing team recorded zero shots on target. Not sure how that is even possible, but he did it.
To be honest I try and forget he played for us
2. Katrien Meire
3. Amdy Faye
4. Losing the atmosphere of the old covered end
5. Simon Francis (then leaving and captaining Bournemouth in the Prem)
Not many appearances, but enough and at a high enough level to suggest he shouldn't have been as bad as he was when he played for us.
Powell being forced to play him didn't do anyone any good, least of all the player. If he had just come over and trained here for a few months, maybe when he did play he would have been more convincing.
Never understood why McCormack is included - seems to be more about personal dislike? He was certainly average but didn't stand out as particularly bad.
Faye stood out given what we paid for him and his continued poor performances.
Thuram is certainly one of the worst keepers I've seen - I remember watching him warm up at the Valley and he seemed incapable of catching the ball.
The Parzysek signing was bizarre - seems to have scored goals elsewhere but wasn't even deemed good enough to start at Charlton.
His Polish club are currently four points off top (currently in a Europa League position) in the Championship round of the Polish Premier Division
Only has seven goals this season but think his issue (going by reports from those who attend) was the fact that he struggled to adapt to the English game and didnt show much about him for our U23s - I'll always remain convinced that he should have been loaned to English clubs to help him adjust, the fact he kept being farmed out to Belgium and Denmark was never going to help him get used to the level here
You might have grounds for a discussion if it were 5 disappointing signings or 5 that didn't live up to (unrealistic) expectations.
But worst 5? Jeez.
I don't think anyone could possibly argue that. Even Mowgli himself.
And to this point:
"If Dennis was one of the worst five, then nearly all of Roland's signings must have been better than him".
I did a separate ranking of the worst five in the Roland era, so that's not what I was saying at all.