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Why do we have such a relatively poor away support?

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  • Don't start me off on new years eve.
  • So our away support is about the same as Cambridge and Lincoln, two much smaller clubs, neither of which are doing that well either. 
  • We do seem to have played all our northern away games in the first half of the season.
  • So our away support is about the same as Cambridge and Lincoln, two much smaller clubs, neither of which are doing that well either. 
    And two clubs far more central than us
  • Don't forget the average home attendance figure is actually more like 8,000 (not the made up 13,169).
    So 10% go away, putting us mid table.
    Will average a 1000 by the end of the season.
    Excellent away support for us.
  • % away to home is the gauge.

    Fleetwood bringing 200 to us is relative to us taking 1000 there.

    Our away following exploded at Portsmouth in Bowyer's first? game, since then it has been very good.   

    Prior to this for MANY seasons it was shocking.
  • edited January 2023
    Wycombe

    Away fans are mostly located at one end of the ground in the Dreams Stand, where just over 2,000 supporters can be accommodated. For teams with a larger following than 350 seats are also made available in the Main Stand, increasing the total allocation to 2,350.

    Att: 6,139 (1,638).

    Stevenage 

    Away fans visiting the Lamex Stadium are located in the South Stand, with a typical allocation of around 1,400 though this can be increased to around 2,000 if part of the Main Stand is used.

    Attendance: 3,515 inc. 1,137 away.

    🤷‍♂️
  • We haven't got a local derby away day to boost our numbers
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  • Average attendance 13,169? Thought it was New Year’s Day, not April fools day!
  • edited January 2023

    That’s a thing of beauty 😍

    average miles per game come in to it and also clubs like Wednesday would have sold out a lot and taken more if possible 

    plymouth have more fans than us in London and all northern towns for their short trips !

    On a par with cambridge and below big clubs like Oxford 

    yes our numbers are better in recent times, all things considered,  for us but they’re still not off the wrist stuff for me 

  • And obviously our home numbers are abysmal and not the bullshit that’s put out there and you have to take away fans off that to get a true home number before you can then get a true percentage 
    so if we could just shrink our home numbers appropriately we’ll be flying up that table 
  • edited January 2023
    We buy season tickets in a burst of summer optimism. Then we see a crap team at home and decide not to bother going to watch after a few games, but attendance figure doesn't reflect the no shows. Why fork out fortnightly to watch the same piss poor team away when you can barely be arsed to watch them at the Valley.
  • dont get the population metric.  why not use number of other clubs with 10 miles as a metric for showing how much competition the club has to attract fans
  • greenwich, bexley and kent is our catchment area (ignore gillingham) - i don't know but id guess we have as many fans in bexley as in greenwich  
  • If you want to rig that table in our favour, then about 18,000 people live in Charlton itself. 
  • If you want to rig that table in our favour, then about 18,000 people live in Charlton itself. 
    Wonder how many ST holders we have that actually live in Charlton, very few I would guess. 
  • DOUCHER said:
    greenwich, bexley and kent is our catchment area (ignore gillingham) - i don't know but id guess we have as many fans in bexley as in greenwich  
    Nothing between them.
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  • Because it's hard to keep the drink in the flask hot over an extended period.

    Also, it's easier to spot trains when you stay at the station.
  • I like visiting different away grounds although most league 1 are crap for pubs before hand etc as they aren’t used to big away followings, for me personally most of the grounds I’ve visited in recent years I wouldn’t go back so that eliminates some 
  • I went to Northampton v Orient today and although orient numbers about the same, they created zero atmosphere.
  • Went away to WBA, couple of years ago. We score, one of our supporters thinks, "i know what i will do to celebrate, i'll lob a bottle in the WBA fans", then a half time another couple decide to have a punch up with the Police. 
    Now when we leave instead of being able to go into Birmingham and have meal and a drink, we are herded onto a train down to Marylebone to wait while we have to give our names to BTP. 

    Didn't travel after that until Sunderland and the 1-0 win, even now we have the usual coked up herberts who don't know where the line is. Perhaps thats why some don't travel.
  • On the above I managed to go back to brum new street after the game and had a few pints in the spoons and got the train back at my allotted time. The punch up at ht was due to very ott policing by the West Midlands police which they are known for being a tad heavy handed. 

    Said it before the more fans you have going the higher rate of active lads or knobheads when they have had a drink. 

    United will be similar it’s an early start for most 6/7 hours on the beers, a lot of non regular away goers and people play up 
  • On the above I managed to go back to brum new street after the game and had a few pints in the spoons and got the train back at my allotted time. The punch up at ht was due to very ott policing by the West Midlands police which they are known for being a tad heavy handed. 

    Said it before the more fans you have going the higher rate of active lads or knobheads when they have had a drink. 

    United will be similar it’s an early start for most 6/7 hours on the beers, a lot of non regular away goers and people play up 
    Are we going in the Stretford End?
  • Our away support is better now than it was. Generally a good atmosphere. The drummer adds to that. Imo our away support has been good for a few seasons now. Been to a few this year. Fleetwood, Barnsley, Shrewsbury, Lincoln. Fleetwood was a bit sparse (understandable) but the others were all pretty good as far as I can remember. Often quite feisty which I like. 
  • Went away to WBA, couple of years ago. We score, one of our supporters thinks, "i know what i will do to celebrate, i'll lob a bottle in the WBA fans", then a half time another couple decide to have a punch up with the Police. 
    Now when we leave instead of being able to go into Birmingham and have meal and a drink, we are herded onto a train down to Marylebone to wait while we have to give our names to BTP. 

    Didn't travel after that until Sunderland and the 1-0 win, even now we have the usual coked up herberts who don't know where the line is. Perhaps thats why some don't travel.

    If that's the case how comes we will be taking 5000+  to united?
    And I should think that game will be worse as some will be on it all day.

  • On the above I managed to go back to brum new street after the game and had a few pints in the spoons and got the train back at my allotted time. The punch up at ht was due to very ott policing by the West Midlands police which they are known for being a tad heavy handed. 

    Said it before the more fans you have going the higher rate of active lads or knobheads when they have had a drink. 

    United will be similar it’s an early start for most 6/7 hours on the beers, a lot of non regular away goers and people play up 
    I managed to escape at New Street, helped by not looking like a football fan... I'd been in a hotel the night before, so needed to get my bag anyway!

    It's a mystery, people on the piss all day before a game, and you get more trouble...
  • Rob said:
    Our away support is better now than it was. Generally a good atmosphere. The drummer adds to that. Imo our away support has been good for a few seasons now. Been to a few this year. Fleetwood, Barnsley, Shrewsbury, Lincoln. Fleetwood was a bit sparse (understandable) but the others were all pretty good as far as I can remember. Often quite feisty which I like. 
    The numbers aren't great though, especially for the nearer games like Wycombe and Oxford.

    Of course both suffer for not being that near or that attractive, when compared to London clubs or indeed Pompey.
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