The Duchess Welling , long gone thank god.
The Crown & Cushion Woolwich, could be very nationalistic venue !
The Eardley Arms Belverdere, Travellers
The Five Stars & Red Lion Foots Cray Travellers !
The White Swan Crayford (Crayford Skins)
The Rose Bexleyheath, if the Kent Hells Angels were in
I've never been too inclined to go into The Bargepole, but I have been into The Abbey Arms. I didn't fancy staying there for any period of time, although the carpet kept me there longer than I wanted to be..
Then there is The Greyhound on the Woolwich Road. I've only ever been in there with a large group during the day; I dread to think what that'd be like on a Saturday night. I don't think they even have beer on tap in there anymore. Must be holding on by a thread.
And did anyone ever go into The Harrow(ing) - Abbey Wood?
I only went in those pubs with a few Traveller mates
I did my apprenticeship in Thamesmead, and used to use The Barge Pole, which could be quite lively on a Friday/Saturday Night. Remember a traveller get what for from his Mum, he was like a kitten! Then worked in the OKR and use to use the Canterbury Arms, and a pub down the road who's bar was full of "Pennies" glued to the bar. Had a couple of spanner mates who use to say they "vouch" for me. They liked to be known as the "Zampa St Rowdies" (the knob heads), But that said i did have some fantastic nights out, including the Chinese Elvis in the restaurant just up from Ilderton Rd. We had a Run-in with a Peckham "Yardie" who pulled a machete in the Canterbury over a supposed "debt"...one of the spanners slip out and was back in under 2mins with a bayonet, all this on a Tuesday lunch. Good old days.
Love a rough pub. My favourite was on the Scottish island Islay. Went on a whisky tour with my dad, kiwi uncle and his Turkish brother in law. Stayed in a nice hotel with a really friendly bar, nice staff, friendly customers.
Decided to go to the pub next door.
Clearly this was where the locals who they didn't want tarnishing the tourist image were penned. First thing we saw was an unconscious teenager on a bench, scrawled with swearwords in marker pen. Guy sat at the bar was sat completely unright, arms by his side, and cheeks completely sucked inwards and rotated fully on the seat to stare at us. Only had Tennant's beer, and porn on the telly. Some under developed radge asked Turkish mate for a ciggie who told him he looked 12.... Then had 5 mins of him screaming "I'm nineteen years of age.. nineeeteeeeen yearrrrrs of age" in a threatening falsetto. After he calmed down it was actually alright in there but when we told the barman from the first place we'd been there he was horrified, and surprised we hadn't been
Sounds like Royston Vasey, a "local pub for local people...."
I did my apprenticeship in Thamesmead, and used to use The Barge Pole, which could be quite lively on a Friday/Saturday Night. Remember a traveller get what for from his Mum, he was like a kitten! Then worked in the OKR and use to use the Canterbury Arms, and a pub down the road who's bar was full of "Pennies" glued to the bar. Had a couple of spanner mates who use to say they "vouch" for me. They liked to be known as the "Zampa St Rowdies" (the knob heads), But that said i did have some fantastic nights out, including the Chinese Elvis in the restaurant just up from Ilderton Rd. We had a Run-in with a Peckham "Yardie" who pulled a machete in the Canterbury over a supposed "debt"...one of the spanners slip out and was back in under 2mins with a bayonet, all this on a Tuesday lunch. Good old days.
The Barnaby?
The Canterbury Arms was a piss hole. Drank in there a few times. Well moody.
Gracelands was the Chinese restaurant. Awful food but the entertainment was second to none.
I've never been too inclined to go into The Bargepole, but I have been into The Abbey Arms. I didn't fancy staying there for any period of time, although the carpet kept me there longer than I wanted to be..
Then there is The Greyhound on the Woolwich Road. I've only ever been in there with a large group during the day; I dread to think what that'd be like on a Saturday night. I don't think they even have beer on tap in there anymore. Must be holding on by a thread.
And did anyone ever go into The Harrow(ing) - Abbey Wood?
I only went in those pubs with a few Traveller mates
Jock was given the Harrow as temporary manager and was having trouble with the natives so the whole of the Man of Kent descended on it one Saturday night. Nothing happened but what a shithole.
Looking for some random help on the King & Queen in Mottingham (in the 80s). Mrs is involved in an art project involving Mottingham history and wants to know what was on the sign from the pub in the 80s if anyone remembers or can share any photos.
Can't quite make out the pub sign.
Could be a King ... or a Queen maybe?
I spent a lot of my teenage years in or around the King & Queen on the Mottingham Estate. Unfortunately I don’t have any photos, nor did I ever look up at the pub sign.
For a year or so around 1973 I even had a job at the King & Queen working as a bar man. This was the time that new owners came in who also ran a pub in the Old Kent Road. I think that Jim Davison was a regular comedian at their pub in the Old Kent Road, but I cannot ever recall him at the King & Queen.
The regular house comedian/compere at the King & Queen was a guy called Mike Kemp. I saw Mike a couple of times on Only Fools and Horses (he was the guy who Uncle Albert had been living with, and then Mike dumped Uncle Albert onto Del Boy and then drove off with no forwarding address) The King and Queen had a few top acts appear. I recall either Billy Fury or Billy J Kramer (I cannot remember which one) appeared there one evening, and also recall “Fluff” Alan Freeman presented a couple of shows there. For 2 or 3 years it was run along the lines of the Northern Club’s.
Finally in the years I frequented the King and Queen it was never a Millwall pub. It was definitely a Charlton pub. A big group of us from Middle Park estate, Coldharbour Estate , Mottingham Estate and Mottingham Village often met up there before traveling to watch Charlton play away.
Looking for some random help on the King & Queen in Mottingham (in the 80s). Mrs is involved in an art project involving Mottingham history and wants to know what was on the sign from the pub in the 80s if anyone remembers or can share any photos.
Can't quite make out the pub sign.
Could be a King ... or a Queen maybe?
I spent a lot of my teenage years in or around the King & Queen on the Mottingham Estate. Unfortunately I don’t have any photos, nor did I ever look up at the pub sign.
For a year or so around 1973 I even had a job at the King & Queen working as a bar man. This was the time that new owners came in who also ran a pub in the Old Kent Road. I think that Jim Davison was a regular comedian at their pub in the Old Kent Road, but I cannot ever recall him at the King & Queen.
The regular house comedian/compere at the King & Queen was a guy called Mike Kemp. I saw Mike a couple of times on Only Fools and Horses (he was the guy who Uncle Albert had been living with, and then Mike dumped Uncle Albert onto Del Boy and then drove off with no forwarding address) The King and Queen had a few top acts appear. I recall either Billy Fury or Billy J Kramer (I cannot remember which one) appeared there one evening, and also recall “Fluff” Alan Freeman presented a couple of shows there. For 2 or 3 years it was run along the lines of the Northern Club’s.
Finally in the years I frequented the King and Queen it was never a Millwall pub. It was definitely a Charlton pub. A big group of us from Middle Park estate, Coldharbour Estate , Mottingham Estate and Mottingham Village often met up there before traveling to watch Charlton play away.
Think the Jim Davidson pub was the Montague Arms, don’t think it was on the OKR, or might have him confused with Jimmy Jones
Looking for some random help on the King & Queen in Mottingham (in the 80s). Mrs is involved in an art project involving Mottingham history and wants to know what was on the sign from the pub in the 80s if anyone remembers or can share any photos.
Can't quite make out the pub sign.
Could be a King ... or a Queen maybe?
I spent a lot of my teenage years in or around the King & Queen on the Mottingham Estate. Unfortunately I don’t have any photos, nor did I ever look up at the pub sign.
For a year or so around 1973 I even had a job at the King & Queen working as a bar man. This was the time that new owners came in who also ran a pub in the Old Kent Road. I think that Jim Davison was a regular comedian at their pub in the Old Kent Road, but I cannot ever recall him at the King & Queen.
The regular house comedian/compere at the King & Queen was a guy called Mike Kemp. I saw Mike a couple of times on Only Fools and Horses (he was the guy who Uncle Albert had been living with, and then Mike dumped Uncle Albert onto Del Boy and then drove off with no forwarding address) The King and Queen had a few top acts appear. I recall either Billy Fury or Billy J Kramer (I cannot remember which one) appeared there one evening, and also recall “Fluff” Alan Freeman presented a couple of shows there. For 2 or 3 years it was run along the lines of the Northern Club’s.
Finally in the years I frequented the King and Queen it was never a Millwall pub. It was definitely a Charlton pub. A big group of us from Middle Park estate, Coldharbour Estate , Mottingham Estate and Mottingham Village often met up there before traveling to watch Charlton play away.
Agree back in the mid to late 80’s few Charlton around Middlepark. But a lot of Millwall in Coldharbour & Chinbrook Estate
Looking for some random help on the King & Queen in Mottingham (in the 80s). Mrs is involved in an art project involving Mottingham history and wants to know what was on the sign from the pub in the 80s if anyone remembers or can share any photos.
Can't quite make out the pub sign.
Could be a King ... or a Queen maybe?
I spent a lot of my teenage years in or around the King & Queen on the Mottingham Estate. Unfortunately I don’t have any photos, nor did I ever look up at the pub sign.
For a year or so around 1973 I even had a job at the King & Queen working as a bar man. This was the time that new owners came in who also ran a pub in the Old Kent Road. I think that Jim Davison was a regular comedian at their pub in the Old Kent Road, but I cannot ever recall him at the King & Queen.
The regular house comedian/compere at the King & Queen was a guy called Mike Kemp. I saw Mike a couple of times on Only Fools and Horses (he was the guy who Uncle Albert had been living with, and then Mike dumped Uncle Albert onto Del Boy and then drove off with no forwarding address) The King and Queen had a few top acts appear. I recall either Billy Fury or Billy J Kramer (I cannot remember which one) appeared there one evening, and also recall “Fluff” Alan Freeman presented a couple of shows there. For 2 or 3 years it was run along the lines of the Northern Club’s.
Finally in the years I frequented the King and Queen it was never a Millwall pub. It was definitely a Charlton pub. A big group of us from Middle Park estate, Coldharbour Estate , Mottingham Estate and Mottingham Village often met up there before traveling to watch Charlton play away.
Think the Jim Davidson pub was the Montague Arms, don’t think it was on the OKR, or might have him confused with Jimmy Jones
The Montague Arms is on the corner of Queen's Road/Kender St about 200 yds off the OKR, Jimmy Jones & Jim Davidson both performed there, as well as The Dun Cow & Green Man down the OKR.
Looking for some random help on the King & Queen in Mottingham (in the 80s). Mrs is involved in an art project involving Mottingham history and wants to know what was on the sign from the pub in the 80s if anyone remembers or can share any photos.
Can't quite make out the pub sign.
Could be a King ... or a Queen maybe?
I spent a lot of my teenage years in or around the King & Queen on the Mottingham Estate. Unfortunately I don’t have any photos, nor did I ever look up at the pub sign.
For a year or so around 1973 I even had a job at the King & Queen working as a bar man. This was the time that new owners came in who also ran a pub in the Old Kent Road. I think that Jim Davison was a regular comedian at their pub in the Old Kent Road, but I cannot ever recall him at the King & Queen.
The regular house comedian/compere at the King & Queen was a guy called Mike Kemp. I saw Mike a couple of times on Only Fools and Horses (he was the guy who Uncle Albert had been living with, and then Mike dumped Uncle Albert onto Del Boy and then drove off with no forwarding address) The King and Queen had a few top acts appear. I recall either Billy Fury or Billy J Kramer (I cannot remember which one) appeared there one evening, and also recall “Fluff” Alan Freeman presented a couple of shows there. For 2 or 3 years it was run along the lines of the Northern Club’s.
Finally in the years I frequented the King and Queen it was never a Millwall pub. It was definitely a Charlton pub. A big group of us from Middle Park estate, Coldharbour Estate , Mottingham Estate and Mottingham Village often met up there before traveling to watch Charlton play away.
Think the Jim Davidson pub was the Montague Arms, don’t think it was on the OKR, or might have him confused with Jimmy Jones
My Dad remembers seeing what was possibly Jim Davidsons first gig at The Black Bull (now The Fox and Firkin) in Lewisham.
Back in the day, the bar in the Europa Hotel in Belfast was a bit scary. In fact the whole hotel was. But that was because you never knew whether you were going to be blown up or not. I assume it retains its title as the World's most bombed hotel?
I've never been too inclined to go into The Bargepole, but I have been into The Abbey Arms. I didn't fancy staying there for any period of time, although the carpet kept me there longer than I wanted to be..
Then there is The Greyhound on the Woolwich Road. I've only ever been in there with a large group during the day; I dread to think what that'd be like on a Saturday night. I don't think they even have beer on tap in there anymore. Must be holding on by a thread.
And did anyone ever go into The Harrow(ing) - Abbey Wood?
My old man used to run a Country Music club at The Harrow Inn, Abbey Wood back in the 70's, I think Harry Starbuck had the boozer then, it had a right name but I can only remember trouble once.
The King's Arms, Eltham, always had trouble. Particularly in the bar it became (late 80s can't remember the name?) But not as much trouble as the New X Inn. Never seen things kick off so regularly as there. Monday lunchtime, Friday and Saturday nights, the hour just after work ~ grim.
Miss the Man of Kent & Welcome Inn. Neither scarey. But perhaps the fact I miss them is scarey!
The Wat Tyler and The Castle and the boozer on the barnfield were desperate holes. I remember a bloke at the bar leaning over and telling me if I as much as look in his direction ever again he'd glass me. It began my fascination with pub carpeting designs!
The Duchess Welling , long gone thank god.
The Crown & Cushion Woolwich, could be very nationalistic venue !
The Eardley Arms Belverdere, Travellers
The Five Stars & Red Lion Foots Cray Travellers !
The White Swan Crayford (Crayford Skins)
The Rose Bexleyheath, if the Kent Hells Angels were in
Add the Plough in Welling to that list.
And the Glenmore Arms Plumstead/Welling
I thought the Glenmore was ok - maybe it's me who's rough!
The Rose Inn in Brewery Road was a bit tasty at times!
The King's Arms, Eltham, always had trouble. Particularly in the bar it became (late 80s can't remember the name?) But not as much trouble as the New X Inn. Never seen things kick off so regularly as there. Monday lunchtime, Friday and Saturday nights, the hour just after work ~ grim.
Miss the Man of Kent & Welcome Inn. Neither scarey. But perhaps the fact I miss them is scarey!
The Wat Tyler and The Castle and the boozer on the barnfield were desperate holes. I remember a bloke at the bar leaning over and telling me if I as much as look in his direction ever again he'd glass me. It began my fascination with pub carpeting designs!
When Percy had the kings arms late 80s/early 90s think it was known as knights at the kings arms. Always a ‘youngsters’ pub but never really thought it scary. Probably because I drank in the Grey.
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I think the Grange and Grange Road is still standing
Then worked in the OKR and use to use the Canterbury Arms, and a pub down the road who's bar was full of "Pennies" glued to the bar.
Had a couple of spanner mates who use to say they "vouch" for me. They liked to be known as the
"Zampa St Rowdies" (the knob heads), But that said i did have some fantastic nights out, including the Chinese Elvis in the restaurant just up from Ilderton Rd.
We had a Run-in with a Peckham "Yardie" who pulled a machete in the Canterbury over a supposed "debt"...one of the spanners slip out and was back in under 2mins with a bayonet, all this on a Tuesday lunch.
Good old days.
For a year or so around 1973 I even had a job at the King & Queen working as a bar man.
This was the time that new owners came in who also ran a pub in the Old Kent Road. I think that Jim Davison was a regular comedian at their pub in the Old Kent Road, but I cannot ever recall him at the King & Queen.
The regular house comedian/compere at the King & Queen was a guy called Mike Kemp.
I saw Mike a couple of times on Only Fools and Horses (he was the guy who Uncle Albert had been living with, and then Mike dumped Uncle Albert onto Del Boy and then drove off with no forwarding address)
The King and Queen had a few top acts appear. I recall either Billy Fury or Billy J Kramer (I cannot remember which one) appeared there one evening, and also recall “Fluff” Alan Freeman presented a couple of shows there.
For 2 or 3 years it was run along the lines of the Northern Club’s.
Finally in the years I frequented the King and Queen it was never a Millwall pub. It was definitely a Charlton pub.
A big group of us from Middle Park estate, Coldharbour Estate , Mottingham Estate and Mottingham Village often met up there before traveling to watch Charlton play away.
few Charlton around Middlepark.
But a lot of Millwall in Coldharbour
& Chinbrook Estate
Felt like Hyacinth Bucket in there, it was like something out of a Mike Leigh film.
Miss the Man of Kent & Welcome Inn. Neither scarey. But perhaps the fact I miss them is scarey!
The Wat Tyler and The Castle and the boozer on the barnfield were desperate holes. I remember a bloke at the bar leaning over and telling me if I as much as look in his direction ever again he'd glass me. It began my fascination with pub carpeting designs!
Always a ‘youngsters’ pub but never really thought it scary. Probably because I drank in the Grey.