Saw the poster for this today and had completely forgotten he was remaking this. I hoped he had too because I think its going to be a disaster. Why couldn't he have just left this alone and come up with something else. The original showed that contrary to the media stereotype of the time, hooliganism involved a cross-section of society and not exclusively lower class/skinhead
drunks, and its impact on those nearest and dearest to them, with the final scenes revealing the ultimate futility of what they were engaged in. Judging by the pre publicity this version appears to be a retro eighties fashion show with plenty of tear ups involving a cast of real life hoolie extras to satiate his core audience, with an opportunity for Fila , Nike and co to show off their latest retro ranges. At least it doesnt have Danny Dyer in.
Anybody else looking forward to this?
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would love to know if anybody has a copy of the latter taped off BBC2 as it was never released
BECKSEY!.............OH COME ON...........BOOOOOOM!
Difficult to imagine the character without Gary Oldman anyway. New bloke is not in his class.
it was deffo cos Becks mum and dads house was filmed in my aunt and uncles house , they'd already moved out - they were all demolished afer that
"Tuesday night in east London. Clashes between rival West Ham and Millwall fans break out hours before kick-off. A fan gets stabbed. Several arrests and injuries. Sounds like something from the 1980s, but it happened only a few days ago: a dark return to thug culture, said the papers. But did it ever go away?
I was born a Millwall fan; if you grow up in south London, you learn that West Ham are the enemy before you know what Benson & Hedges are. The hatred that divides the two clubs either side of that silver slip of the Thames is almost biblical. As quickly as I knew which of the players were good, I heard the names of the top boys. Back then Millwall’s “firm” — firms are organised fighting gangs of fans who see themselves as defenders of the club’s honour — had a reputation for being one of the biggest in the country.
You could spot the leaders a mile off: older boys with wedge haircuts and top-end Fila tracksuits or diamond golf jumpers. They were the boys I gravitated towards. My first exposure to violence was at Charlton. I remember the smell of hops from factories and the noise: shouting and glass breaking. I saw my friend punched in the face. Then half a brick came spinning over a messy line of boys and caught me on the head, blood oozing out right away. There was no time to think about it. I was flying, wiping claret from my eyes, my Ellesse ski jacket heading for a hot wash — I didn’t care, I was there. I was one of the boys who could say I stood and had a go, although in reality I wasn’t and I didn’t.
That’s what it became for me; it was all about being there, looking good. Side parting and a sovereign ring, Fila jumper and 10 John Player cigarettes. I never could get my head around the idea of hitting people — sure, I’d carry a rounders bat up my sleeve, look a bit hard, but that didn’t match up with the child inside. Fear stopped me from piling in but I still wanted to be part of the gang. That was my dilemma. Belonging. Looking for a family beyond blood. That’s what gang culture is about. Soft boys wanting to be hard. Lost boys looking for family.
Football violence seemed to vanish towards the end of the 1980s, possibly due to the birth of rave culture, tougher sentences, the advent of CCTV. But the truth is it was never eradicated — it simply moved away from football grounds to attract less attention.
What happened at Upton Park on Tuesday is rarely seen, so it made all the front pages. But look on YouTube and you can see thousands of fights: football fights, ice hockey fights, postcode fights, drug fights, random attacks at bus stops. I didn’t go on Tuesday; not a chance. I’ve battled so much over the years with wanting to be a bad boy, but I’m a film director now and have left all that behind.
I found it ironic that it should flare up again just before the release of my film, The Firm, about football fights in the 1980s and my own struggle with gang culture, the boy who was frightened, who walked away. I hope some of the lads at Upton Park on Tuesday have the chance to see it.
The Firm will be released nationwide on September 18"
Plug that film Nick - The pornography of (football) violence)
Blackheath
Thamesmead
Plumstead
And the changing rooms they used at the beginning of the film looked a lot like Charlton Park?
There is loads of behind the scenes footage on there.
I find all this re-newed interest in football violence quite pathetic.
South of the Border was around then, filmed mainly on the pepys estate.
I agree with Chirpy on both points
Sadly no longer with us.
Well I can't be having that!
The Firm, top film. The Gary Oldman one, the Tom Cruise one, the Nick Lowe one. Green Street, Football Factory, ID etc. Love 'em all!
He is such a tool,but he did get to get onto bed with her though!
I saw that. Truly awful.
I don't know, it had one or two good points in it...
Fave film Football factory love it!!! do like the original firm and have a copy but i think maybe the remake is due, hopefully its good but usually they are not
love all films like that tbh, not that im going to get into hooliganism but love the thought of it and watching it does get the adrenaline flowing, ID i also have but unsure whether i have watched? i think i will have to have a dip into my dvd collection soon and catch up. FF i watch weekly which is bit sad but heyho :-)
let us know if new ones worth watching ppl when you go
No i just mean in the role he played in football factory, not necessarily a great actor just perfect for these sort of films, sorry didnt make very clear
Really?