The original film was great apart from the bit with the baby and the stanley knife.
I think it was 'of the time' though - not sure a remake or prequel is that good an idea.
The orignal was definitely "of the time" MrOneLung - you're right there. Whenever I've seen it in the past 5 or 10 years I can't help thinking it's dated very badly. The "meet" in the (Tower?) hotel is particularly cringeworthy.
Also, would you really want Jim McDonald, Phil Mitchell, Benny from Grange Hill and the fella who says Lilt has a "totally tropical taste" in your "firm" - especially if it was only 8 strong?!
[cite]Posted By: Off_it[/cite]Also, would you really want Jim McDonald, Phil Mitchell, Benny from Grange Hill and the fella who says Lilt has a "totally tropical taste" in your "firm" - especially if it was only 8 strong?!
lol
nice reminder of how you don't see age creeping up on you. Everytime i shake my head at some little whippa snapper who has overdosed on Football Factory and thinks he is the next Danny flipin Dyer mug, I'll try and remember just how much we were all into this 16 years or so ago. Could probably watch the film now and quote every word.
[cite]Posted By: johnnybev1987[/cite]Danny dyer legend actor
At first I thought it was a wind-up...
Then...
[cite]Posted By: johnnybev1987[/cite]not that im going to get into hooliganism but love the thought of it and watching it does get the adrenaline flowing
[cite]Posted By: AFKABartram[/cite]But its true thought Leroy. Otherwise books wouldn't have sold and films wouldn't be made.
Fair point. But then again some people get their kicks from dressing up in womens tackle and bin liners, sticking an orange in their gobs and a noose round their necks.
Doesn't mean you can't call them a f*cking weirdo though!
Also worry that films like this could lead to a revival of some sorts. You only have to look at the teenagers who go to Millwall to understand what I mean.
Steaming In by Colin Ward was the first 'Hoolie' book, the success of which led to the whole genre - which from a publishing point of view has been very successful
I thought the Firm was pretty cheap and tacky when it first came out but maybe I was a bit older.
Clockwork Organge was an anti-violence film but had some people enjoying copying the ultra-violence within it (very good book BTW and brilliant use of made up slang)
The parts of the Firm about the need to belong to a group (the tattoo, etc) and fit in and Gary Oldham as a psychopath concerned about how he appeared to others (the bit in the bedroom when he is acting out a confrontation ala Taxi Driver) were OK but the firm having 9 members and the very silly ending were, well, silly.
Now if you want a real film about hooliganism you should watch Zigger Zagger : - )
Henry thought it was quite good. It seemed a virtually identical story cycled through a lot of mediums at the time; remember the Bill having an awful double header virtually the same but with a much worse realisation.
The Firm was quite good and gritty of it's time, and as it was of it's time/low budget people wore and looked like they did back then. As someone mentioned nowadays everyone is dressed in the shiniest, brightest casual-fest for any football violence film. This to me is bollox because as I remember it, only young at the time, most people at the footy then weren't top price smart 'casuals' that was more say Liverpool. And if you saw most Liverpool fans 99% of them were dressed like average joe's at best. And as for Millwall? Get over they were the worst dressed set of fan's I ever did see in the 80's.
Never seen the original, not really my cup of tea. Perhaps someone could tell me what relivance a remake would be now and isn't is a bit disappointing that there would still be an audiance for it?
There was an element of Clockwork Orange of about how good it feels to be bad and how society fears you if your identified as part of a gang/youth cult or whatever. But it had an underlying message and was in the hands of one of the best directors ever imho. I just dont trust Nick Love with this, but i'll probably go see. Outlaw was an interesting idea but was a bit disappointing. Fashions in The Business? Dont know about that but I probably wasn't the most fashionable guy at the time!
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eurghhhh i want to kick the telly when he comes on it.
Danny Dyer is a plum.
I think it was 'of the time' though - not sure a remake or prequel is that good an idea.
Also, would you really want Jim McDonald, Phil Mitchell, Benny from Grange Hill and the fella who says Lilt has a "totally tropical taste" in your "firm" - especially if it was only 8 strong?!
lol
nice reminder of how you don't see age creeping up on you. Everytime i shake my head at some little whippa snapper who has overdosed on Football Factory and thinks he is the next Danny flipin Dyer mug, I'll try and remember just how much we were all into this 16 years or so ago. Could probably watch the film now and quote every word.
Then... Jesus Wept
Fair point. But then again some people get their kicks from dressing up in womens tackle and bin liners, sticking an orange in their gobs and a noose round their necks.
Doesn't mean you can't call them a f*cking weirdo though!
Muuuuugggg!
"Steaming In" i am sure that was what it was called the bloke kept mentioning Chelsea and Leatherhead i cant rember his name
i am going to try to buy that now this weekend
as a youthful teenager i thought it was an excellent read almost every kid i went to footie with had a copy at home
Clockwork Organge was an anti-violence film but had some people enjoying copying the ultra-violence within it (very good book BTW and brilliant use of made up slang)
The parts of the Firm about the need to belong to a group (the tattoo, etc) and fit in and Gary Oldham as a psychopath concerned about how he appeared to others (the bit in the bedroom when he is acting out a confrontation ala Taxi Driver) were OK but the firm having 9 members and the very silly ending were, well, silly.
Now if you want a real film about hooliganism you should watch Zigger Zagger : - )
The Firm was quite good and gritty of it's time, and as it was of it's time/low budget people wore and looked like they did back then. As someone mentioned nowadays everyone is dressed in the shiniest, brightest casual-fest for any football violence film. This to me is bollox because as I remember it, only young at the time, most people at the footy then weren't top price smart 'casuals' that was more say Liverpool. And if you saw most Liverpool fans 99% of them were dressed like average joe's at best. And as for Millwall? Get over they were the worst dressed set of fan's I ever did see in the 80's.
Fashions in The Business? Dont know about that but I probably wasn't the most fashionable guy at the time!