Addicks Players - The Valiant 1001 - V1001 Kai ENSLIN (p42)

Brownie12

aliwibble said:

Last season we went number order by the looks of it, which would make it:

V989

Alex MITCHELL
10/08/2024 v Wigan Athletic (A)
League 1
Nathan Jones

V990

Ghassan AHADME
10/08/2024 v Wigan Athletic (A)
League 1
Nathan Jones

V991

Greg DOCHERTY
10/08/2024 v Wigan Athletic (A)
League 1
Nathan Jones

V992

Josh EDWARDS
10/08/2024 v Wigan Athletic (A)
League 1
Nathan Jones

Don’t forget mannion !

aliwibble

Whoops! Ta, done now

Stig

sam3110 said:

So how do we determine who's the first when there's multiple debutants? Number order, alphabetical order, order in which they step onto the turf when coming out of the tunnel, or order in which they touch the ball in the game?

Position on team sheet  

Henry Irving

Stig said:

sam3110 said:

So how do we determine who's the first when there's multiple debutants? Number order, alphabetical order, order in which they step onto the turf when coming out of the tunnel, or order in which they touch the ball in the game?

Position on team sheet  

Is the correct answer

Henry Irving

Brownie12 said:

aliwibble said:

Last season we went number order by the looks of it, which would make it:

V989

Alex MITCHELL
10/08/2024 v Wigan Athletic (A)
League 1
Nathan Jones

V990

Ghassan AHADME
10/08/2024 v Wigan Athletic (A)
League 1
Nathan Jones

V991

Greg DOCHERTY
10/08/2024 v Wigan Athletic (A)
League 1
Nathan Jones

V992

Josh EDWARDS
10/08/2024 v Wigan Athletic (A)
League 1
Nathan Jones

Don’t forget mannion !

Stewards enquiry on this.

Mannion is 989.

Berry also played.

shirty5

Henry Irving said:

Brownie12 said:

aliwibble said:

Last season we went number order by the looks of it, which would make it:

V989

Alex MITCHELL
10/08/2024 v Wigan Athletic (A)
League 1
Nathan Jones

V990

Ghassan AHADME
10/08/2024 v Wigan Athletic (A)
League 1
Nathan Jones

V991

Greg DOCHERTY
10/08/2024 v Wigan Athletic (A)
League 1
Nathan Jones

V992

Josh EDWARDS
10/08/2024 v Wigan Athletic (A)
League 1
Nathan Jones

Don’t forget mannion !

Stewards enquiry on this.

Mannion is 989.

Berry also played.

Keeper first then Squad Numbers if more than on debut in the starting eleven

sam3110

Mannion is 989
Mitchell 990
Ahadme 991
Docherty 992
Edwards 993
Berry 994

Right?

LenGlover

My earliest is V245, John Hewie, but he'd been playing a good few years before I saw him play.

shirty5

Stig said:

sam3110 said:

So how do we determine who's the first when there's multiple debutants? Number order, alphabetical order, order in which they step onto the turf when coming out of the tunnel, or order in which they touch the ball in the game?

Position on team sheet  

If position on team sheet is the way to go, then I then I would suggest having a look through the list as there would be an issue with the numbers allocated for the Bristol Rovers back in August 2017.

Amos, Fosu and Clarke would need amending

There possibly could be more hence why best to take a look

Masterbrew

LenGlover said:

My earliest is V245, John Hewie, but he'd been playing a good few years before I saw him play.

Same for me! First game April 1964

Alex Wright

So, I'm V0161 😁

Stuart_the_Red

Absolutely mental that Keith Peacock first played for the Addicks 3 months after I was born!
I first saw him play on the ‘69-‘70 and he’s still atnthe club today!

thai malaysia addick

LenGlover said:

My earliest is V245, John Hewie, but he'd been playing a good few years before I saw him play.

I have a feeling Gordon Hurst (v219) turned out in a testimonial game. I’m sure someone will know.

aliwibble

Have we confirmed which order we're using yet? If we're going team sheet order it's:
V0989
Will MANNION
10/08/2024 v Wigan Athletic (A)
League 1
Nathan Jones

V0990
Alex MITCHELL
10/08/2024 v Wigan Athletic (A)
League 1
Nathan Jones

V0991
Greg DOCHERTY
10/08/2024 v Wigan Athletic (A)
League 1
Nathan Jones

V0992
Josh EDWARDS
10/08/2024 v Wigan Athletic (A)
League 1
Nathan Jones

V0993
Ghassan AHADME
10/08/2024 v Wigan Athletic (A)
League 1
Nathan Jones

V0994
Luke BERRY
10/08/2024 v Wigan Athletic (A)
Substitute for Greg Docherty (90 mins)
League 1
Nathan Jones

If we're going keeper then numerical order it's
V0989
Will MANNION
10/08/2024 v Wigan Athletic (A)
League 1
Nathan Jones

V0990
Alex MITCHELL
10/08/2024 v Wigan Athletic (A)
League 1
Nathan Jones

V0991
Ghassan AHADME
10/08/2024 v Wigan Athletic (A)
League 1
Nathan Jones

V0992
Greg DOCHERTY
10/08/2024 v Wigan Athletic (A)
League 1
Nathan Jones

V0993
Josh EDWARDS
10/08/2024 v Wigan Athletic (A)
League 1
Nathan Jones

V0994
Luke BERRY
10/08/2024 v Wigan Athletic (A)
Substitute for Greg Docherty (90 mins)
League 1
Nathan Jones

ross1

I may be a killjoy, but does it matter which order as long as we have their name and details for future records 🤔

sam3110

Aren't numerical order and team sheet order one and the same? On official team sheets players are listed by squad number and not position are they not? 

aliwibble

I can't speak for previous seasons, but this season it's been positional, which is why Ahadme is lower down the list on the first one than the second one.

sam3110

I meant what one do we base it on? For instance, last season against Port Vale the official teamsheet was this:

Which is in numerical order, whereas the one posted on social media was this:

Which is positional order. So which one is correct? And does it actually matter?

Callumcafc

I assume it’s done by teamsheet order for consistency’s sake.

You can’t always find a teamsheet, especially from back in the day, where the players are given positions or even shirt numbers.

So by moving forward with assigning V-numbers in team sheet order, it means the process of numbering stays consistent across the ~120 year history of the football club.


I am not 100% certain about any of the above so some confirmation from the people that know what they’re doing would be helpful. :-)

Lewis Coaches

Colin Cameron will be looking down having a laugh at this discussion.

Never had this problem back in 1990 when the 500 came into being.

Henry Irving

OK, I'm going with 

V989 Will Mannion
V990 Alex Mitchell
V991 Greg Docherty
V992 Josh Edwards
V993 Gassan Ahadme
V994 Luke Berry  

Chizz

Whoever is granted position number 1,000 on the V-list should be presented (perhaps by @LoOkOuT?) with the Saxman Trophy.  Especially if they disappear without trace soon after taking their place on the list. 

LenGlover

I know next to nothing about the V numbers but given that Ian Wallis has completed two volumes up to and including the 2023/2024 season of the Valley 1000 surely those numbers are set in stone?

MarcusH26

I'd expect 1000 to be an academy player off the bench in a BSM Trophy game. Can't see it being a first team signing unless we get an unexpected amount of signings  

aliwibble

V0995
Matt GODDEN
17/08/2024 v Leyton Orient (H)
Substitute for Gassan Ahadme (76 mins)
League 1
Nathan Jones

killerandflash

MarcusH26 said:

I'd expect 1000 to be an academy player off the bench in a BSM Trophy game. Can't see it being a first team signing unless we get an unexpected amount of signings  

We should hold back on giving debuts in the BSM once we reach 999, so that 1000 can be our star January signing. Mbappe, Messi or Darren Purse.

Callumcafc

Chance for a couple more today with Allan Campbell and Dan Potts both named on the bench.

aliwibble

V0996
Allan CAMPBELL
07/09/2024 v Rotherham (H)
Substitute for  Luke Berry (59 mins)
League 1

Nathan Jones

Scoham

The next four debuts could be crucial. The 1000th could be an u21 off the bench in the pizza cup in the 88th minute who never plays for us again.

Callumcafc

Think we are looking at 1000 being in the Pizza Paint Motors Cup for sure now.

Potts and maybe Hylton still to debut would take us to 998.

Got to pull up a list of youth players who are yet to make their bow. Maybe if Dixon plays in the U21s comp he’ll be 1000…