Goalkeepers: Ben Foster (Birmingham), Joe Hart (Manchester City), Paul Robinson (Blackburn)
Defenders: Wes Brown (Manchester United), Gary Cahill (Bolton), Ashley Cole (Chelsea), Michael Dawson (Tottenham Hotspur), Kieran Gibbs (Arsenal), Phil Jagielka (Everton), Glen Johnson (Liverpool), John Terry (Chelsea)
Midfielders: Gareth Barry (Manchester City), Steven Gerrard (Liverpool), Adam Johnson (Manchester City), Frank Lampard (Chelsea), James Milner (Aston Villa), Ashley Young (Aston Villa), Theo Walcott (Arsenal), Jack Wilshere (Arsenal)
Forwards: Darren Bent (Sunderland), Carlton Cole (West Ham United), Wayne Rooney (Manchester United), Bobby Zamora (Fulham)
England squad for the friendly match against Hungary on Wednesday: Foster (Birmingham), Hart (Manchester City), Robinson (Blackburn); Brown (Manchester United), Cahill (Bolton), A Cole (Chelsea), Dawson (Tottenham), Gibbs (Arsenal), Jagielka (Everton), G Johnson (Liverpool), Terry (Chelsea); Barry (Manchester City), Gerrard (Liverpool), A Johnson (Manchester City), Lampard (Chelsea), Milner (Aston Villa), Young (Aston Villa), Walcott (Arsenal), Wilshere (Arsenal); Bent (Sunderland), C Cole (West Ham), Rooney (Manchester United), Zamora (Fulham).
Same old shit, except for a few new faces - Wilshere, Zamora, Gibbs and Cahill. Johnson in as well. No Joe Cole - good on Capello, choosing him as a scapegoat instead of Lumpalard, Terry or Gerrard. Berk.
Personally,i think it's much more of a punishment to make the flops play in this game.
Make them play the full ninety too and hopefully get a few lumps kicked out of them right before the premier league ( thou shall be obeyed ) kicks off.
It just goes from one extreme to the other. We need to streamline the Under-21 side into the first team (otherwise there's no point in having it). Now we've suddenly got a bunch of players who were deemed not good enough 2 months ago (Bent, Cole, Zamora, Johnson, Cahill, Jagielka), and a bunch of random Arsenal youngsters in the team who have barely played a game for club or country. The selection process just seems random. Admittedly the timing of this friendly is ridiculous, I'm not sure if that has had an effect on the players we're seeing in the squad.
Can completely understand why Robinson has retired. He should've gone to the World Cup as our number 2 behind Hart. It says it all that our WC first choice keeper (or second choice depending on how you look at it) conceded 3 goals at home to Millwall yesterday.
[cite]Posted By: dabos[/cite]Can completely understand why Robinson has retired. He should've gone to the World Cup as our number 2 behind Hart. It says it all that our WC first choice keeper (or second choice depending on how you look at it) conceded 3 goals at home to Millwall yesterday.
James, you mean? Just because he conceded 3 yesterday doesn't mean he personally had a stinker.
But evidently his own team in front of him did.
[cite]Posted By: johnnybev1987[/cite]Just bitter, i think he deserves to be in it on merit and was still a fantastic servant to this club regardless of the circumstances he left in.
I don't believe sulky scumbags should be given one of the highest honors in the land, representing their country. Just my opinion like.
No doubt Bent will start, England will be piss poor, he'll get one half chance which he doesn't take and then be subbed for Bobby 'the new Heskey' Zamora at half-time.
got enough scumbags playing in the past, so why not.
Also scumbag in your eyes but if you had the same choice you would have done the same, he gave 110% when he played for charlton and thats all that matters. yep he did engineer his move but thats all he's done not a bad person grow up its just football no point bearing a grudge for someone wanting to better themselves and get more money
[cite]Posted By: dabos[/cite]Can completely understand why Robinson has retired. He should've gone to the World Cup as our number 2 behind Hart. It says it all that our WC first choice keeper (or second choice depending on how you look at it) conceded 3 goals at home to Millwall yesterday.
James, you mean? Just because he conceded 3 yesterday doesn't mean he personally had a stinker.
But evidently his own team in front of him did.
Oggy, what I meant was that our first/second choice keeper is playing at the same level as Millwall. He's not even playing in the Premiership because nobody wanted him.
[cite]Posted By: johnnybev1987[/cite]got enough scumbags playing in the past, so why not.
Also scumbag in your eyes but if you had the same choice you would have done the same, he gave 110% when he played for charlton and thats all that matters. yep he did engineer his move but thats all he's done not a bad person grow up its just football no point bearing a grudge for someone wanting to better themselves and get more money
I believe what Parker did was the first nail in our current coffin, if Parker had stayed we'd have atleast finished in a UEFA cup spot that year, fact.
It is down to that spotty spoilt little p**** that we find ourselves where we do now, not completely, but partly!
[quote][cite]Posted By: Stu of HU5[/cite][quote][cite]Posted By: johnnybev1987[/cite]got enough scumbags playing in the past, so why not.
Also scumbag in your eyes but if you had the same choice you would have done the same, he gave 110% when he played for charlton and thats all that matters. yep he did engineer his move but thats all he's done not a bad person grow up its just football no point bearing a grudge for someone wanting to better themselves and get more money[/quote]
I believe what Parker did was the first nail in our current coffin, if Parker had stayed we'd have atleast finished in a UEFA cup spot that year, fact.
It is down to that spotty spoilt little p**** that we find ourselves where we do now, not completely, but partly![/quote]
lets not forget Andy Nelsom and Mike Baileys part in all this
[cite]Posted By: dabos[/cite]Can completely understand why Robinson has retired. He should've gone to the World Cup as our number 2 behind Hart. It says it all that our WC first choice keeper (or second choice depending on how you look at it) conceded 3 goals at home to Millwall yesterday.
James, you mean? Just because he conceded 3 yesterday doesn't mean he personally had a stinker.
But evidently his own team in front of him did.
Oggy, what I meant was that our first/second choice keeper is playing at the same level as Millwall. He's not even playing in the Premiership because nobody wanted him.
They did, James got better offers but has recently got married and wanted a club in that area of the country.
"The decision is predominantly to do with me being happy in a family environment to get the best out of me as a footballer and that wasn't possible staying in the Premier League," said James.
"That's the intention. That's the motivation. Not money. I was offered more money elsewhere. I had opportunities to go to Scotland and I had other Premier League opportunities."
[cite]Posted By: dabos[/cite]Can completely understand why Robinson has retired. He should've gone to the World Cup as our number 2 behind Hart. It says it all that our WC first choice keeper (or second choice depending on how you look at it) conceded 3 goals at home to Millwall yesterday.
James, you mean? Just because he conceded 3 yesterday doesn't mean he personally had a stinker.
But evidently his own team in front of him did.
Oggy, what I meant was that our first/second choice keeper is playing at the same level as Millwall. He's not even playing in the Premiership because nobody wanted him.
They did, James got better offers but has recently got married and wanted a club in that area of the country.
"The decision is predominantly to do with me being happy in a family environment to get the best out of me as a footballer and that wasn't possible staying in the Premier League," said James.
"That's the intention. That's the motivation. Not money. I was offered more money elsewhere. I had opportunities to go to Scotland and I had other Premier League opportunities."
Yeh, just like Sol Campbell and his ambitious Notts County adventure. I'm not suggesting that James will leave after one game, just that I don't believe everything footballers say
[cite]Posted By: CafcAndy[/cite]Do you have anything against Dowie and Pardew by any chance Johnnybev?
Parker disrupted what would have been a good season, thats why i would never support the greedy runt!
Funny you should say that is i cant stand either Dowie or Pardew, fighting a losing battle with scotty p maybe i dont hold it against him as met him a couple of times and was always my fave charlton player. I say no more on this matter :P
Back to the England squad Wes Brown has also retired from England, he'll obviously be missed for his frequent contributions.
Also, while everybody is at it I would like it to be known that I no longer wish to be considered for selection for the English national team. Whilst it would be an honour to be part of Mr Capellos squad I have not received assurance of being first choice, and therefore I regrettably have made this decision. I will make no further comment on this situation and hope you will respect the privacy of myself and my family
[cite]Posted By: Chunes[/cite]Just goes to show exactly how much Capello, like all England managers, are influenced by what the media say.
Tend to agree but the pool he gets to pick from is becoming smaller and smaller. So much so that these are, as far as I can see, the only candidates for the keeper's spot playing in the Premiership:
Green - following his blunder unlikely to play in the forseeable future for England (if ever again)
Forster - series of injuries have blighted his career
Kirkland - ditto but at least started the majority of games for Wigan last season
Hart - the outstanding candidate but will he be first choice at City?
Robinson - retired
Carson - probably not up to International standard
Maximum of four keepers to pick from and with the injury record of Kirkland and Forster and the fact that Hart may well be second choice at City (and they probably won't let him go out on loan either) there could well be a situation where Capello is scratching his head as to where to go to see a viable candidate for the job.
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Defenders: Wes Brown (Manchester United), Gary Cahill (Bolton), Ashley Cole (Chelsea), Michael Dawson (Tottenham Hotspur), Kieran Gibbs (Arsenal), Phil Jagielka (Everton), Glen Johnson (Liverpool), John Terry (Chelsea)
Midfielders: Gareth Barry (Manchester City), Steven Gerrard (Liverpool), Adam Johnson (Manchester City), Frank Lampard (Chelsea), James Milner (Aston Villa), Ashley Young (Aston Villa), Theo Walcott (Arsenal), Jack Wilshere (Arsenal)
Forwards: Darren Bent (Sunderland), Carlton Cole (West Ham United), Wayne Rooney (Manchester United), Bobby Zamora (Fulham)
England squad for the friendly match against Hungary on Wednesday: Foster (Birmingham), Hart (Manchester City), Robinson (Blackburn); Brown (Manchester United), Cahill (Bolton), A Cole (Chelsea), Dawson (Tottenham), Gibbs (Arsenal), Jagielka (Everton), G Johnson (Liverpool), Terry (Chelsea); Barry (Manchester City), Gerrard (Liverpool), A Johnson (Manchester City), Lampard (Chelsea), Milner (Aston Villa), Young (Aston Villa), Walcott (Arsenal), Wilshere (Arsenal); Bent (Sunderland), C Cole (West Ham), Rooney (Manchester United), Zamora (Fulham).
No parker, idiot.
Agree, Barnsey ........what has Crapello got against Sp*tty P*rk*r ?
He can do everything the flatfooted Gareth Barry can do - and more.
Is it just bias .....or becausy Sp*tty has sp*ts?
It's because it isn't Capello's policy to pick players on form....oh wait...
Personally, I'm disappointed not to see Rodwell and Shawcross in that squad, and hope Gibbs and Johnson will be given a good chance on the left.
Make them play the full ninety too and hopefully get a few lumps kicked out of them right before the premier league ( thou shall be obeyed ) kicks off.
Can completely understand why Robinson has retired. He should've gone to the World Cup as our number 2 behind Hart. It says it all that our WC first choice keeper (or second choice depending on how you look at it) conceded 3 goals at home to Millwall yesterday.
James, you mean? Just because he conceded 3 yesterday doesn't mean he personally had a stinker.
But evidently his own team in front of him did.
Good, I hope he never gets to pull an England shirt on again.
Just bitter, i think he deserves to be in it on merit and was still a fantastic servant to this club regardless of the circumstances he left in.
I don't believe sulky scumbags should be given one of the highest honors in the land, representing their country. Just my opinion like.
Also scumbag in your eyes but if you had the same choice you would have done the same, he gave 110% when he played for charlton and thats all that matters. yep he did engineer his move but thats all he's done not a bad person grow up its just football no point bearing a grudge for someone wanting to better themselves and get more money
Oggy, what I meant was that our first/second choice keeper is playing at the same level as Millwall. He's not even playing in the Premiership because nobody wanted him.
However with 2 years to go until the next tournament, there is time for Hart and/or Foster to establish themselves and get the necessary experience.
I believe what Parker did was the first nail in our current coffin, if Parker had stayed we'd have atleast finished in a UEFA cup spot that year, fact.
It is down to that spotty spoilt little p**** that we find ourselves where we do now, not completely, but partly!
Also scumbag in your eyes but if you had the same choice you would have done the same, he gave 110% when he played for charlton and thats all that matters. yep he did engineer his move but thats all he's done not a bad person grow up its just football no point bearing a grudge for someone wanting to better themselves and get more money[/quote]
I believe what Parker did was the first nail in our current coffin, if Parker had stayed we'd have atleast finished in a UEFA cup spot that year, fact.
It is down to that spotty spoilt little p**** that we find ourselves where we do now, not completely, but partly![/quote]
lets not forget Andy Nelsom and Mike Baileys part in all this
"The decision is predominantly to do with me being happy in a family environment to get the best out of me as a footballer and that wasn't possible staying in the Premier League," said James.
"That's the intention. That's the motivation. Not money. I was offered more money elsewhere. I had opportunities to go to Scotland and I had other Premier League opportunities."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1299150/David-James-targets-Premier-League-Bristol-City.html
Yeh, just like Sol Campbell and his ambitious Notts County adventure. I'm not suggesting that James will leave after one game, just that I don't believe everything footballers say
Funny you should say that is i cant stand either Dowie or Pardew, fighting a losing battle with scotty p maybe i dont hold it against him as met him a couple of times and was always my fave charlton player. I say no more on this matter :P
Save your contempt for Chelsea, not the player.
Also, while everybody is at it I would like it to be known that I no longer wish to be considered for selection for the
English national team. Whilst it would be an honour to be part of Mr Capellos squad I have not received assurance of being first choice,
and therefore I regrettably have made this decision.
I will make no further comment on this situation and hope you will respect the privacy of myself and my family
Tend to agree but the pool he gets to pick from is becoming smaller and smaller. So much so that these are, as far as I can see, the only candidates for the keeper's spot playing in the Premiership:
Green - following his blunder unlikely to play in the forseeable future for England (if ever again)
Forster - series of injuries have blighted his career
Kirkland - ditto but at least started the majority of games for Wigan last season
Hart - the outstanding candidate but will he be first choice at City?
Robinson - retired
Carson - probably not up to International standard
Maximum of four keepers to pick from and with the injury record of Kirkland and Forster and the fact that Hart may well be second choice at City (and they probably won't let him go out on loan either) there could well be a situation where Capello is scratching his head as to where to go to see a viable candidate for the job.
Perhaps we might see him at the Valley soon ;-)