Hi there, I'm a Tractorboy in peace. Lee Martin was a bit of a flop for us, after a being bought for a fairly high sum. Apparently he is doing well for you boys? I'd love to hear your opinions of him, I'd guess there's a decent chance you could get him permanently if you wanted.
I always though he was a bit lightweight and was lacking a real footballing brain. Although, he did look good in spells when he looked to beat his man but his crossing was also poor. Is he always on the wing for you?
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He has had a fair start, he has obvious ability, works hard and links up well with strikers. That being said I think he drifts in and out of games far too much for my liking but I suppose that happens with 'creative' players.
Think he will come good, would like to see him get on the scoresheet. Also needs to play a killer pass more often rather than a trick. Mainly because he seems like the only type of player in our squad that has the potential to do it.
Not yet convinced there's a real end product we can rely on though. In the league the goals he set up we found a bit of space to work in after the opposition had pushed up.
Just can't see him picking out good crosses and passes he doesn't have that space. Hopefully he does in time.
I suppose if he had a better end product you wouldn't have loaned him out. There is something there and he's doing well at times but I'd like to see more from him, but that can be said for most of our attacking players.
Good luck for the season
I think he's had moments which show why he was at Man Utd as a youngster, but also others that show why he wasn't good enough for Ipswich last season.
Can't imagine the big price (£2m?) and expectations has helped him, especially when he's not yet played a full season of first team football anywhere.
Good analogy with Johnny Robinson. Although possibly mnore talent than Robbo, but less finished product.
In that case, sowester anyone?
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I'd go for Martin, Waggy is more of a Rommedahl - game based on pace, rather than effort and ability to cross, although waggy must have outscored Romm by now, definetly at the Valley
Martin was showing all the signs at the end of the Notts County game - having a go at the lino when already on a yellow...never seen Waggy lose it like that.
Martin is the new Mark Robson. Flatters to deceive so far.
Is a goal and 3 or 4 assists in under 10 appearances really faltering to deceive?
I don't have the stats but I would think he's our leading assister so far this season. The 'lots of promise little end product' tag would probably be more fairly pinned on Reidy so far this season.
Football league stats give martin the lead for assists but only 2 compared to others only 1. http://www.football-league.co.uk/page/Assists/0,,10794~201010267~25,00.html if link does not show up fully then cut and paste
Cheers Kap, he's definitely got more than 2 though - one at Shrewsbury (Abbot scored), one vs Orient (Waggy scored) and one vs Notts County (Anyinsah scored), plus he scored himself vs Shrewbury.
I do agree that the jury is still out a bit on him as I think we're all waiting for that one big game from him where he puts in an 8 or 9 out 10 performance and really drives us to give someone a pasting, but he's made a decent start in terms of direct involvment with our goalscoring so we've got to be careful he doesn't turn into this season's Lloyd Sam and end up saddled with the pressure of unrealistic expectations.
I thought Racon provided the assist for Anyinsah? I get confused easily!!
How sad am I? I have trawled the match report on the OS and they give it to Martin
Pretty certain it was Martin from my view from NU. Easy players to confuse - not ;-)
In the papers it was quoted as Racon but it definitely wasn't him. Akpo was battling down the line, he squeezed it through to Martin, who squared it to Anyinsah and Joe boshed it in. And that sentence is why I'm not a journalist.
Don't see why you couldn't be a Journo - getting you're facts right is more important than being poetic in your writing imo.
Anyway, 'bosh' is definitely a word you don't hear often enough these days.
Like Ambrose he will need to be played in midfield just behind the front two to really get the best out of him.
Unfortunately Parky couldn't see that with Ambrose and I doubt he will with Martin either. We don't want to create anything for the strikers now do we!
Funnily enough it wasn't just Parkie that wouldn't, a succession of charlton managers from Curbs onwards, its, dare I say it, Warnock that played Ambrose in his best position and prospered from it.