Ive really enjoyed watching Lee Martin play and like most posters feel that if he is used right could be a huge plus. I always think of Lee Marvin When I hear his name. I m sure we used to have a song to go with 'I was born under a wondering star' ......
I've not been a fan of Martin since he joined, I can see why a lot of people like him because he is skillful and looks good when running with the ball. but his decision making is poor, his final ball/crossing has been shocking. I think he would be ok to bring on off the bench because his skill might be able to unsettle defenders in the last 20 minutes when everyone else is getting tired. If you read most of the ratings after each game on here you seem to get the same response "worked hard then faded in second half". I'm not having a dig at the lad I hope he comes good and proves me wrong. I just think were begining to see why Roy Keane doesn't rate him.
[cite]Posted By: Nicholas[/cite]I've not been a fan of Martin since he joined, I can see why a lot of people like him because he is skillful and looks good when running with the ball. but his decision making is poor, his final ball/crossing has been shocking. I think he would be ok to bring on off the bench because his skill might be able to unsettle defenders in the last 20 minutes when everyone else is getting tired. If you read most of the ratings after each game on here you seem to get the same response "worked hard then faded in second half". I'm not having a dig at the lad I hope he comes good and proves me wrong. I just think were begining to see why Roy Keane doesn't rate him.
Agree to an extent. I think there is a good player in there, but as you say he needs to improve his decision making. At times last night there was a simple ball on but he would try a little flick or turn which never came off. He needs to play a percentage game a lot more - tricks aren't going to work if you do them constantly.
"Martin was increasingly used by Ole Gunnar Solskjær in the Manchester United Reserve team as an attacking midfielder and makeshift striker, scoring five goals in the latter half of the season. He was also named as a substitute for the first team's home match against Aston Villa on 5 April 2009"
So perhaps sticking him out on the wing isn't his best position. Less than 18 months ago he was good enough for Man Utd's bench so there's obviously a player in there somewhere. I think we need to play him off the front 2, especially in home games.
Very up for it but perhaps a bit too much, tearing around the field when sometimes a bit of thought might be the better option, so maybe he's a bit too direct at the moment, that might be based on hunger to achieve and prove himself - which is no bad thing, but needs to be moulded
[cite]Posted By: razil[/cite]Very up for it but perhaps a bit too much, tearing around the field when sometimes a bit of thought might be the better option, so maybe he's a bit too direct at the moment, that might be based on hunger to achieve and prove himself - which is no bad thing, but needs to be moulded
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Question is should we playing 3-5-2, 4-5-1 or a diamond midfield just to fit Martin in?
Didn't go last night but seems to get more space when playing out wide. Wasn't great when playing behind Abbott in other games.
Not sure I'd want him in central midfield in a 4-4-2 from the start of a game.
We're unlikely to start games 3-5-2 or with a diamond midfield just to fit him in behind 2 strikers.
There's not a clear answer is there? Said before I can see both why he was at Man Utd and also why he struggled at Ipswich.
Agree to an extent. I think there is a good player in there, but as you say he needs to improve his decision making. At times last night there was a simple ball on but he would try a little flick or turn which never came off. He needs to play a percentage game a lot more - tricks aren't going to work if you do them constantly.
"Martin was increasingly used by Ole Gunnar Solskjær in the Manchester United Reserve team as an attacking midfielder and makeshift striker, scoring five goals in the latter half of the season. He was also named as a substitute for the first team's home match against Aston Villa on 5 April 2009"
So perhaps sticking him out on the wing isn't his best position. Less than 18 months ago he was good enough for Man Utd's bench so there's obviously a player in there somewhere. I think we need to play him off the front 2, especially in home games.
I think Man Utd used him behind 1 striker.
By George, I think he's got it!
Midfield diamond. Semedo holding, Martin behind the front 2.
Parky did try it in a few games last season, so maybe he will if a winger or two aren't available at some point.