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North South divide

edited September 2010 in Not Sports Related
Before I came to live in London I didnt really believe the North of the river / South of the river two cities thing. It wasnt until I started to go to the Valley that it became evident that their was a huge difference in mentality. I find that here in North London, there are less academics...of the friends I have here only one went to college, and most of the others didnt even finish school, so I couldnt really see a thread on colleges attended lasting long on the Tottenham forum. The biggest difference is I find more of a community feel here, even with its many creeds and cultures...my husband says and feels the same and although born and lived in Greenwich for 32 years would never want to live south again. Lastly, and this maybe just a Charlton thing...at my first Charlton match I was shocked to see how many overweight people there were...I really dont see this level of obesity in North London so maybe diet and fitness are also factors that divide.
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    can see your back in full flow.
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    Surprised by your findings windscreen, but one thing i am sure of is that Tottenham is one of the most depressing places in London i've been to.
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    [cite]Posted By: Telnotinoz[/cite]It smells north of the Thames and they speak like chavs :-)

    I'm not a Londoner so no axe to grind...but as for speech, I do have trouble understanding the South London drawl...Bermondsey, Peckham being some of the worse.
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    [quote][cite]Posted By: Bexley Dan[/cite]Surprised by your findings windscreen, but one thing i am sure of is that Tottenham is one of the most depressing places in London i've been to.[/quote]

    Absolutely agree, thats why I'm moving...but still cant fault the community spirit.
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    edited September 2010
    [quote][cite]Posted By: Telnotinoz[/cite]It smells north of the Thames and they speak like chavs :-)[/quote]

    Thats because North London doesnt have the parkland like the south...air is definately dirtier and smellier here...sometimes so bad that I cant face going out...so there you go, another huge difference.
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    Found this on the net:

    You have to be a Londoner to fully understand the north/south divide. It’s an innate, instinctive sense of right or wrong, heaven or hell. North and south London are just…….different. When I sounded people out about the differences I was told “it feels different”, “they speak funny”, “they're backwards”, and “it’s just not right”.

    By the way, I'm from South London and my wife lived in North London until we got married ... and now says she would never go back.
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    And I like this from an article by Michael Hodges ;-)

    However, it’s not the interesting names for their children, or the self-obsession – all those diets, all that idiot yoga, the tantric sex – but the self-righteous hypocrisy of rich north Londoners that is truly unbearable. They want to save the world but still send their children to public school. They claim to be true metropolitans yet cluster in exclusive villages.

    This isn’t urban life, it’s a cod bucolic nightmare populated by rampaging egotists who, understandably, would be beaten about the head with yellow murder boards if they ever strayed south of City Hall. This is north London, and it sucks.
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    edited September 2010
    the only thing that matters is North London is full of shit shit and more shit and South London is wonderfull full of tits fanny and charlton


    the rest is irrelevant.

    i would move home tomorrow but i think i would miss nth london it is by far grittier and edgy
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    agreed stonemuse you need to be londoner really
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    and over weight Tottenham fans is a given and as for the dirty Greasy Gooner shite they are well FAT
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    So mad it is worrying but still funny.
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    edited September 2010
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    [cite]Posted By: Henry Irving[/cite]So mad it is worrying but still funny.

    And it makes you repeat yourself!
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    Defintely a different look and feel to North london. I prefer the look of South london as i think it feels brighter and airier with more open spaces, but maybe that's just because i'm from there.
    However i feel North London has a better selection of local restaurants and more interesting socialising areas. Mostly because there are bigger settled cultural communities in the North. The south is pretty much just Black and white.
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    my first proper job involved travelling round the various council offices in london the difference seemed to be that offices in north london used to be found in concrete mega office buildings. South tended to be in a variety of smaller offices spread round the borough.

    In general the difference was that the south london councils seemed friendlier but a bit less organised. North of the river (tower hamlets excepted which was a very strange set of offices) North was stroppy, busy and dirtier, but you didn't have to wait as long for the information.

    This, I realise, helps not a jot but was definitely what I observerved.
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    its a good point . Have to say i always amired the fit slimfigures wandering around the leafy glades of Dalston.
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    I used to live in Petts Wood. The town is divided by the rail track with the daylight side on the east and the dark side to the west. Only people from Petts Wood understand the difference between East and West Petts Woodians.
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    [cite]Posted By: windscreen[/cite]Before I came to live in London I didnt really believe the North of the river / South of the river two cities thing. It wasnt until I started to go to the Valley that it became evident that their was a huge difference in mentality. I find that here in North London, there are less academics...of the friends I have here only one went to college, and most of the others didnt even finish school, so I couldnt really see a thread on colleges attended lasting long on the Tottenham forum. The biggest difference is I find more of a community feel here, even with its many creeds and cultures...my husband says and feels the same and although born and lived in Greenwich for 32 years would never want to live south again. Lastly, and this maybe just a Charlton thing...at my first Charlton match I was shocked to see how many overweight people there were...I really dont see this level of obesity in North London so maybe diet and fitness are also factors that divide.

    windscreen,

    Why bring up the overweight thing?Are you some health expert?

    Glad you like the feel the community spirit here! What is wrong with the South?
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    dont encourage more of it mate.
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    [quote][cite]Posted By: LawrieAbrahams[/cite]I used to live in Petts Wood. The town is divided by the rail track with the daylight side on the east and the dark side to the west. Only people from Petts Wood understand the difference between East and West Petts Woodians.[/quote]

    Your right. I'm moving soon. We looked at a couple of houses on the east side, nah, I'm west side boy.
    Now moving to Locks Bottom.
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    People in North London have webbed feet. Fact.
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    [cite]Posted By: LawrieAbrahams[/cite]I used to live in Petts Wood. The town is divided by the rail track with the daylight side on the east and the dark side to the west. Only people from Petts Wood understand the difference between East and West Petts Woodians.
    East side represent!! Daylight Inn endz. When we first moved their in 1987 there was a real snobbery and divide with people not speaking to people from the other side of the tracks, only the elderly who live in the mock tudor houses keep the tradition going but there is still a massive difference in the house prices depending on which road you live on, all very odd to say the least.

    As for the London divide, I don't feel safe at night in the fast majority of East London but feel very safe (estates excluded) in South London, a guy a work from Essex is the complete opposite.
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    I live in South London and iam proud of that!

    Charlton always where ever i live!
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    [cite]Posted By: Tavern[/cite]

    Charlton always where ever i live!


    i will tip my pint at that my man


    english by birth south london by the grace of god


    like i tell all my mates here i am like a modern day viking i came i took your woman and your homes
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    [cite]Posted By: nth london addick[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Tavern[/cite]

    Charlton always where ever i live!


    i will tip my pint at that my man


    english by birth south london by the grace of god


    like i tell all my mates here i am like a modern day viking i came i took your woman and your homes

    NLA,

    Same as you mate.

    Cheers Fella
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    [quote][cite]Posted By: nth london addick[/cite][quote][cite]Posted By: Tavern[/cite]

    Charlton always where ever i live![/quote]


    i will tip my pint at that my man


    english by birth south london by the grace of god


    like i tell all my mates here i am like a modern day viking i came i took your woman and your homes[/quote]

    Me too.
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    Everything about North London is wrong. And if someone who lives in the unabashed shithole that is Croydon says that, then you know it must be bad.
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    Always feel cluastrophobic in North London. The roads feel smaller and there seems less open space. Plus it definitely smells odd. They also have this weird obsession with Italian food. There are Italian restaurants everywhere and they always seem to do good business, italian food is so dull, surely their taste buds will move on one day.

    Oh and it smells. Not as much as France, but about the same as Holland.
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